Lurker 2,039 Report post Posted June 20, 2018 Neil Erisman Discuss... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,108 Report post Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) Wow. Are they gonna be D2 or what? I'd have gone after Pat Smith. He lives in Arkansas the last I heard. Edited June 20, 2018 by TobusRex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,872 Report post Posted June 20, 2018 I believe Arkansas Little Rock is going D1, more details on the hire: https://news.theopenmat.com/blog/2018/06/20/neil-erisman-named-little-rocks-first-head-coach/ Seems to be well respected everywhere he goes, I like the hire. 1 TobusRex reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,108 Report post Posted June 20, 2018 Cool article. I wish Erisman all the best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Show_Me 340 Report post Posted June 20, 2018 I believe Arkansas Little Rock is going D1, more details on the hire: Seems to be well respected everywhere he goes, I like the hire. Agree. Good to see a D1 Program in this region. Maybe I missed it, but what Wrestling Conference will they compete? Southern Conf, Big 12 ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,108 Report post Posted June 20, 2018 Agree. Good to see a D1 Program in this region. Maybe I missed it, but what Wrestling Conference will they compete? Southern Conf, Big 12 ? I'd guesstimate the Southern. Big 12 would eat them alive (not that the Big 12 is all that great anymore). I'd be happy to see them join the Big 12 though, would be better for the program. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 1,101 Report post Posted June 20, 2018 Given the following from Foley’s mailbag on June 1, is this perhaps a bit underwhelming? “I have heard big names! Don't want to drop them here since I haven't been able to check the status of the interviews, but from what I hear it's attracting a good number of candidates who are optimistic about the area and about the idea of building something 100 percent in their image.†I wonder what the salary is for this job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinnum 840 Report post Posted June 21, 2018 I wonder what the salary is for this job. In line with SoCon, not the Big 12... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vhsalum 43 Report post Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) Wow. Are they gonna be D2 or what? I'd have gone after Pat Smith. He lives in Arkansas the last I heard. Too much liquid baggage. Plus, he'll make more than twice as much in his current role as a club coach there. Erisman will do a good job. ADs are doing a better job of finding the best coaches, as opposed to the most credentialed athlete. Edited June 21, 2018 by vhsalum 1 Tofurky reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tightwaist 390 Report post Posted June 21, 2018 Hopefully we can all pull for a successful Ark Little Rock (And Fresno/Presbyterian). These new programs need to have some early successes. Put them in the SoCon, with Presby, since the competition isn't super competitive and they can garner some qualifiers/champs more quickly. 2 MikePorcelli and TobusRex reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 1,101 Report post Posted June 21, 2018 Appalachian State is in the same conference as UA-Little Rock (Sun Belt), so it would make sense to put them in the SoCon as well for wrestling. 2 TobusRex and MikePorcelli reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,108 Report post Posted June 21, 2018 Too much liquid baggage. Plus, he'll make more than twice as much in his current role as a club coach there. Erisman will do a good job. ADs are doing a better job of finding the best coaches, as opposed to the most credentialed athlete. I know he's had problems, but the man was an excellent college wrestler. If he's overcome his personal issues I'm sure Pat would be outstanding. That said I understand the reticence to hire somebody with that kind of baggage. Hopefully Erisman is a huge success and the sport really blossoms at Ark-Little Rock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCMO2 676 Report post Posted June 24, 2018 I know he's had problems, but the man was an excellent college wrestler. If he's overcome his personal issues I'm sure Pat would be outstanding. That said I understand the reticence to hire somebody with that kind of baggage. I'd assume that even if they wanted to hire him, they're probably not permitted to hire a convicted felon. 1 TobusRex reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTG119 820 Report post Posted June 24, 2018 so far I haven't seen anything that says Pat applied. and maybe he didn't knowing his past would factor in. Pat also had a significant health concern last year that possibly plays into his decision making and / or maybe is enough that we should give the guy a break re past problems and just wish him well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,108 Report post Posted June 24, 2018 I'd assume that even if they wanted to hire him, they're probably not permitted to hire a convicted felon. Good point I completely overlooked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justafan 123 Report post Posted June 24, 2018 Pat was involved in the process and will be involved in the program.He will more then likely be a volunteer 4 rstrong, MikePorcelli, TobusRex and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HokieHWT 593 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 This is terrible. If you're starting a program you need a big name, I'm sorry this program gets dropped in 5 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonBryant 2,098 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 This is terrible. If you're starting a program you need a big name, I'm sorry this program gets dropped in 5 years. Love you man, but you're wrong on this one. Erisman is a strong hire. 3 Tofurky, HokieHWT and gromit reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HokieHWT 593 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Love you man, but you're wrong on this one. Erisman is a strong hire. Fair enough! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronChef 1,101 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 This is terrible. If you're starting a program you need a big name, I'm sorry this program gets dropped in 5 years. How many big names are there in wrestling that actually move the needle among recruits and fans? Of that group, how many are realistic head coach candidates? Of those, how many aren't already head coaches in better situations than Little Rock? I think the list of big names they had any shot with is pretty small. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCMO2 676 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Was Barry Davis' name in the hat for this position? (they have Krispy Cremes in Little Rock) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paboom 204 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Does anyone see this as of right now a 6 figure position? If it is under 6 figures, what big name coach in a very weak geographical area is going to want to start a new program from scratch? People need to be realistic. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 2,075 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Was Barry Davis' name in the hat for this position? (they have Krispy Cremes in Little Rock) It was a Hy-Vee as I recall. 1 zhawk reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tofurky 622 Report post Posted June 25, 2018 Does anyone see this as of right now a 6 figure position? If it is under 6 figures, what big name coach in a very weak geographical area is going to want to start a new program from scratch? People need to be realistic. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Maybe there are incentives tied to this gig? Also, does anyone know if this position is similar to the Fresno State job in that X-amount of student-wrestlers must come from a specific geographic region, specifically Arkansas. I have to imagine that the AD understands the landscape of Arkansas wrestling as it stands now, specifically when thinking long term. Also, Erisman had his fingers in those eastern states, and Oklahoma. My guess is that the first few rosters have a good mix of kids from PA, NJ, some Ohio, New York and Illinois and some Oklahoma, given its proximity. I am going to guess, too, that you're going to see more of those kids from Texas taking a good, hard look at UALR. How many transfers from four year schools who might want to start in D1 sooner than later will they have? Does Erisman hit the NJCAA circuit, too? The 125 from Wyoming (by way of Uzbekistan) would have been a really nice get, as would have the 133 from Iowa Central, who is a native of Georgia (the state, not the country). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 920 Report post Posted June 26, 2018 Love you man, but you're wrong on this one. Erisman is a strong hire.Maybe so. But he did not even get mentioned in an article by The Open Mat that listed potential candidates. https://news.theopenmat.com/blog/2018/06/11/who-should-little-rock-hire/ Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
