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After going 0-forever against GOAT's Sanderson 0-6, Gatsalov 0-3 and Jones 0-2 Cormier finally wins the mega match at 39 years old! Never give up! Never give up! After Lesnar he could be the wealthiest guy in our sport. Never would have thought that. His last 3 fights could make $$$. He wants one more this year and 2 next year then retire. 

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A huge kudos to Cormier for his win last night.  What  spectacular finish.   I can't imagine he will out earn McGregor or GSP no matter the Brock fight, but despite the match up being entirely meritless and a complete joke of their belt system (Brock zero wins in last 8 years and currently suspended by USADA for a PED failure and gets a title shot anyways) I'm happy for Cormier.   He should make some good coin on that one.    $5M or so would be my guess.    Good for him.     

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After going 0-forever against GOAT's Sanderson 0-6, Gatsalov 0-3 and Jones 0-2 Cormier finally wins the mega match at 39 years old! Never give up! Never give up! After Lesnar he could be the wealthiest guy in our sport. Never would have thought that. His last 3 fights could make $$$. He wants one more this year and 2 next year then retire. 

 

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JO and Obe versus Jones? Is that a serious question?? I recommend you Google Turinabol before you compare taking amphetamines to taking one of the most potent steroids ever.

 

Cormier is a class act, an infectiously positive role model, and deserves all the success he has had and will continue to have until he retires. He is a true champion in sport and life.

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JO and Obe versus Jones? Is that a serious question?? I recommend you Google Turinabol before you compare taking amphetamines to taking one of the most potent steroids ever.

 

Cormier is a class act, an infectiously positive role model, and deserves all the success he has had and will continue to have until he retires. He is a true champion in sport and life.

 

I haven't liked Cormier since he trash talked Dean Morrison at the open or the trials one year and thought he was a pud when he threw a punch at the Iranian when he lost the bronze medal match in Athens. Then I really thought he was a loser for what he did in Beijing. As much as I don't like Lesnar either, I hope he punches a hole in Cormier's face. 

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So are there levels to cheating? How long was Jones suspended for Turinabol? According to Angry Fish JO was suspended two years for his positive test so it must have been pretty serious.

If JO used his cheating to win a few gold medals that were later stripped it would be viewed differently.  JO cheated to become one of the best Americans for a short while.  Jones cheated to become the greatest in the (short) history of his sport.  When you are in the GOAT conversation you are judged more harshly because people care more.  

 

Additionally Jones has other suspensions for recreational drugs and arrests as well.  Those things color how cheating is perceived.  

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So are there levels to cheating? How long was Jones suspended for Turinabol? According to Angry Fish JO was suspended two years for his positive test so it must have been pretty serious.

Suspended for 1 year.

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So are there levels to cheating? How long was Jones suspended for Turinabol? According to Angry Fish JO was suspended two years for his positive test so it must have been pretty serious.

 

Is this a serious question?  Of course there are levels to cheating.

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The reason I posted is because of the story of perseverance! Not many people get this many shots at GOAT's in their careers and lose to all of them every time until now....and then actually beat a GOAT at 39 years old like Cormier did !!! There is no one left to fight for him really. He should fight Lesnar and make some $, then give the #1 guy at Lt Heavy or Heavy a shot, then fight a clean Jones and retire.  

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The reason I posted is because of the story of perseverance! Not many people get this many shots at GOAT's in their careers and lose to all of them every time until now....and then actually beat a GOAT at 39 years old like Cormier did !!! There is no one left to fight for him really. He should fight Lesnar and make some $, then give the #1 guy at Lt Heavy or Heavy a shot, then fight a clean Jones and retire.

It’s great that you’re excited, but there’s a great thread in the MMA section about this. Cormier hasn’t been relevant in freestyle for a decade. I will say his move to MMA has been great because the last two to compete at his weight in freestyle have both made weight and won Olympic gold medals.

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It’s great that you’re excited, but there’s a great thread in the MMA section about this. Cormier hasn’t been relevant in freestyle for a decade. I will say his move to MMA has been great because the last two to compete at his weight in freestyle have both made weight and won Olympic gold medals.

Haha. I was upset also. Especially for Damien Hahn-really hurt for that guy. But it does have to bite that the next two guys at his weight won Olympic Gold-never really thought about that. But you have to admit not many people I know get a shot at so many greats like Cormier did!

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I was there & watched.  Was ridiculous how they morphed it into a WWE circus afterward.   Everything aside about Jones, he handled himself with absolute class after he beat Cormier the 2nd time, said respectful things about Daniel.    

 

Stipe Miocic deserved a helluva lot more respect than what he was shown.  Good for Cormier on his upcoming payday, but I'll be enjoying the next fight from the comfort of my local watering hole, where I can get Bacardi & Cokes spilled on me by people I know anyway.  

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The reason I posted is because of the story of perseverance! Not many people get this many shots at GOAT's in their careers and lose to all of them every time until now....and then actually beat a GOAT at 39 years old like Cormier did !!! There is no one left to fight for him really. He should fight Lesnar and make some $, then give the #1 guy at Lt Heavy or Heavy a shot, then fight a clean Jones and retire.  

 

 

Cormier didn't beat a  GOAT.    Stipe certainly is tough and he defended the belt successfully 3 times (only Randy Couture and Tim Sylvia have 3 successful title defenses at heavyweight).      The GOAT talk is hyperbole.     Stipe is one of the best we've seen and one of the most successful.   Randy and Tim have more title wins (2).   Cain has 2.     Stipe is a 1 time champ who defended 3 times.  That's 1 defense better than Brock who most laugh at.    

 

Stipe is a great win for Cormier, but it's not like he knocked off 2005 Fedor.          

 

With the win, Cormier enters GOAT discussion for his own career.    I think he's certainly top 5

 

Fedor 

Cain

Werdum

Minotauro

Stipe

 

Those would be some of the man  guys in the discussion.   But in a sport barely 20 years old (modern rules) this talk of All time is hyperbole at best. 

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Saw a clip of Cormier burying the sport of wrestling on some interview he did after the fight. Recalled losing to Sanderson, Gatsalov and "the Iranian" and said he now sees he was meant to lose to those guys because wrestling is a small time sport and he was destined for bigger things.

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Cormier is the head coach of a high school wrestling team, Gilroy which is a powerhouse in California. He also does more than just about anyone to help ex NCAA wrestlers get jobs, either coaching in California or with their own MMA careers. I can understand not caring at all about MMA, UFC or Cormier's career, but he is nonetheless a tremendous positive for the sport. 

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Saw a clip of Cormier burying the sport of wrestling on some interview he did after the fight. Recalled losing to Sanderson, Gatsalov and "the Iranian" and said he now sees he was meant to lose to those guys because wrestling is a small time sport and he was destined for bigger things.

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