Alleged Ohio State Disabato video

[tbert 563]

Reports surfacing that DiSabato may have paid Coleman $2000 to make initial statement

 

https://www.mediaite.com/columnists/after-taking-a-deep-dive-into-the-jim-jordan-ohio-state-controversy-here-are-some-conclusions/

 

Nothing would surprise me.

 

I just dont get the fake news media saying Hellickson was pressuring wrestlers to recant.  Yetts is the one who texted Hellickson first and in part said it shouldnt be about Jordan  but he couldnt understand why Jordan was denying.  Then Hellickson replied saying if Yetts felt the message about Jordan was wrong, he could get him in touch with someone.  Doesnt sound too pressuring to me. 

All this other crap about pressuring  from Jordan appears to be hearsay.

It would be interesting to see Disabatos texts between him and Yetts and Coleman.  Wonder how much he offered Yetts.  f there is a case of extortion brought against Disabato these would come out.  Seems to me he was threatening if Ohio State didnt do the right thing (monetary)  he was taking it public.  

 

If they only have spoken to 100 accusers so far, it will be well into 2020 before they get to finish talking to the other 1400 (minimum) victims.

[1032004 1,407]

I don’t think Hellickson was pressuring him.

 

But Jordan’s team admitted to asking people to release statements backing him.

[OKnowwhut 59]

I don’t follow this kind of stuff, so it’s confusing. Near as I can figure; there was this creepy, crotchety team doctor fumbling around a junk yard. And there were these 20-something aged, alpha wrestlers in a locker room, in the 80’s. Not too difficult to ascertain who was about to get severely abused if things got froggy. So, if so many said they knew that he knew… then they knew. Seems like somebody might have said STOP instead of HOLD IT!

Edited August 18, 2018 by OKnowwhut

[GockeS 533]

[Idaho 1,320]

I don’t think Hellickson was pressuring him.

 

But Jordan’s team admitted to asking people to release statements backing him.

 

 

To ask people who know you well to release statements of support is a bad thing because.....

[Plasmodium 2,220]

To ask people who know you well to release statements of support is a bad thing because.....

He is leveraging their loyalty to solicit lies from them.

[TBar1977 4,481]

Jordan was a low level asst. coach back then. Far less important than Hellickson, the AD, or school president. The wtestlers who now claim abuse did not even say abuse back then. How this falls on a low level coach is a complete mystery.

Edited August 18, 2018 by TBar1977

[tbert 563]

Jordan was a low level asst. coack back then. Far less important than Hellickson, the AD, or school president. The wtestlers who now claim abuse did not even say abuse back then. How this falls on a low level coach is a complete mystery.

Because a "low life" brought him into it.

[BigBrog 43]

I tend to side with the opinion of tbar and Idaho on this topic based on the facts that are known today by the public.  I am sure there are many other facts that are not known that would be very important in one making their opinion but those may never come to light.

 

Side note...I also think it is funny how some claim to be unbiased about their view point and claim it isn't political when everything they write is exactly the definition of it.  To me that is such a weak argument and really shows lack of debate integrity.  If you lean one way or the other politically just freakin say it.  I lean back and forth politically on a lot of issues but will have no problem saying that I am siding with the right no this issue or I am siding with the left that issue...who cares...what should matter is the content of your argument or debate.

 

By the way npope...sorry bud but what YOU wrote was asking tbar to no longer post here...can't argue and try to spin your way out of it buddy.

[GockeS 533]

He is leveraging their loyalty to solicit lies from them.

i thought we didn't know if he was lying?

[tbert 563]

To ask people who know you well to release statements of support is a bad thing because.....

Or he could ask for loyalty the Disabato way and give them each 2 large.

[TBar1977 4,481]

I tend to side with the opinion of tbar and Idaho on this topic based on the facts that are known today by the public. I am sure there are many other facts that are not known that would be very important in one making their opinion but those may never come to light.

 

Side note...I also think it is funny how some claim to be unbiased about their view point and claim it isn't political when everything they write is exactly the definition of it. To me that is such a weak argument and really shows lack of debate integrity. If you lean one way or the other politically just freakin say it. I lean back and forth politically on a lot of issues but will have no problem saying that I am siding with the right no this issue or I am siding with the left that issue...who cares...what should matter is the content of your argument or debate.

 

By the way npope...sorry bud but what YOU wrote was asking tbar to no longer post here...can't argue and try to spin your way out of it buddy.

Thx BigBrog. I know many see it, but few say it as well as you.

[TBar1977 4,481]

Or he could ask for loyalty the Disabato way and give them each 2 large.

Or a knife in the back. Proverbially speaking, of course.

[1032004 1,407]

To ask people who know you well to release statements of support is a bad thing because.....

Well as I said I don’t think Hellickson was “pressuring” DiSabato and Yetts, but if Yetts’ quotes are to be believed, Jordan was certainly “pressuring” Hellickson.

Edited August 19, 2018 by 1032004

[TBar1977 4,481]

Yetts is not credible.

Edited August 19, 2018 by TBar1977

[cjc007 774]

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180828/whistleblower-in-ohio-state-sexual-abuse-case-convicted-on-unrelated-charge

 

 

Guilty as charged.

 

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[1032004 1,407]

On 8/18/2018 at 10:29 PM, TBar1977 said:

Yetts is not credible.

Strauss story not going away.  Now reports that the state medical board had complaints about him but he went unpunished, and apparently now over 300 people suing tOSU about it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/30/sports/ohio-state-doctor-abuse.html

The Jordan piece is interesting.   I agree with you Tbar, that Jordan’s position at the time should not make him a scapegoat now, but the official report from May agrees with some of the wrestlers’ earlier comments that Strauss’s behavior seemed to be fairly common knowledge among coaches, with 22 coaches confirming knowledge of “rumors and/or complaints,” and a specific mention that Strauss was particularly “infatuated” with the wrestling team, IMO making it even more likely for wrestling coaches to be aware.

And speaking of Yetts, he did describe specific instances with Strauss/Jordan/Hellickson which were apparently corroborated by multiple people.  The weird part is in those instances is that not only was Jordan aware, but he actually tried to do something about it, so it’s not like he ignored the allegations.   I do get the fact that political opponents would use his involvement in any way to try to cause his downfall, but that doesn’t make it right for him to lie about it, which most indications are that he is doing.

Disabato may not be a great human, but you have to give him credit since it seems like he’s the one that really opened the door to the investigation into Strauss.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/us/politics/jim-jordan-sexual-abuse-ohio-state.html

 

Edited September 1, 2019 by 1032004

[Billyhoyle 2,469]

On 8/28/2018 at 4:33 PM, cjc007 said:

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180828/whistleblower-in-ohio-state-sexual-abuse-case-convicted-on-unrelated-charge

 

 

Guilty as charged.

 

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Being sexually abused in formative years can lead to criminal behavior later on.  It’s why child abusers are attacked for sport in prison-many there were abused growing up. 

Edited September 1, 2019 by Billyhoyle

[cjc007 774]

Being sexually abused in formative years can lead to criminal behavior later on.  It’s why child abusers are attacked for sport in prison-many there were abused growing up. 

DiSabato wasn't sexually abused as a child, was he?

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[Billyhoyle 2,469]

1 hour ago, cjc007 said:

DiSabato wasn't sexually abused as a child, was he?

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You don't think it happening to an 18 year old freshman can cause psychological issues that manifest in criminal behavior?  The guy is a scumbag, but I think the failure of tOSU coaches and administration to act on the known issue of Dr. Strauss  is partly responsible for his (and Yetts's) current actions. That's not to say they shouldn't be held responsible for what they do now, but I do have a level of empathy for him that I didn't previously.  I sure can't judge him, since I did not go through the same things when I was 18-22.  Those who gloat when either of those two get arrested may want to examine their own morality.  At least his coming forward has helped bring truth to one of the worst chapters in tOSU athletic history (it's definitely worse than the Tressell tattoo scandal).  

[rpbobcat 56]

There were a few stories on the news the past few days that, going back to at least 1996 ,officials of  the Ohio Medical Board were aware that 

Strauss was abusing male athletes.

But chose to do nothing.

Edited September 2, 2019 by rpbobcat

[1032004 1,407]

2 hours ago, rpbobcat said:

There were a few stories on the news the past few days that, going back to at least 1996 ,officials of  the Ohio Medical Board were aware that 

Strauss was abusing male athletes.

But chose to do nothing.

Interestingly, one of the few people alleged to have received multiple complaints about him and done nothing was John Lombardo, who apparently has worked as an advisor to the NFL on PED’s for 30 years.

https://deadspin.com/ohio-states-investigation-of-richard-strausss-sexual-ab-1834843173

 

Edited September 2, 2019 by 1032004

[skikayaker 93]

I was there the winter of 83/84 with an ankle injury wrestling in the room at Larkins Hall with Andy DiSabato & Jude Skove among others. Never did I hear or encounter the so called doctor. This was during the time Chris Ford was coach, just before Helickson, and Jordan. There were definitely homosexuals from the outside trolling our locker room, but I've always said, I've never heard of a Big Ten wrestler being handled inappropriately by anyone without the consequence of hanging the good doctor on a coat rack with your jock strap with a sock stuffed in his mouth. This story was run by Perkins Coie, the same law firm that hired Crowdstrike to violate the chain of custody with the DNC server, and who also hired Fusion GPS to create the fake Dossier. All paid for by the DNC who covered up the death of Seth Rich. They went after Congressman Jordan for the same reasons, and next thing you know Jordan's nephew Eli Strickly died in a car crash the same week of the allegations last Summer.

[1032004 1,407]

15 minutes ago, skikayaker said:

I was there the winter of 83/84 with an ankle injury wrestling in the room at Larkins Hall with Andy DiSabato & Jude Skove among others. Never did I hear or encounter the so called doctor. This was during the time Chris Ford was coach, just before Helickson, and Jordan. There were definitely homosexuals from the outside trolling our locker room, but I've always said, I've never heard of a Big Ten wrestler being handled inappropriately by anyone without the consequence of hanging the good doctor on a coat rack with your jock strap with a sock stuffed in his mouth. This story was run by Perkins Coie, the same law firm that hired Crowdstrike to violate the chain of custody with the DNC server, and who also hired Fusion GPS to create the fake Dossier. All paid for by the DNC who covered up the death of Seth Rich. They went after Congressman Jordan for the same reasons, and next thing you know Jordan's nephew Eli Strickly died in a car crash the same week of the allegations last Summer.

holy tinfoil hat.

The official report did not even name Jordan, which I'm sure it would have if they were really going after him.

[Billyhoyle 2,469]

2 hours ago, skikayaker said:

I was there the winter of 83/84 with an ankle injury wrestling in the room at Larkins Hall with Andy DiSabato & Jude Skove among others. Never did I hear or encounter the so called doctor. This was during the time Chris Ford was coach, just before Helickson, and Jordan. There were definitely homosexuals from the outside trolling our locker room, but I've always said, I've never heard of a Big Ten wrestler being handled inappropriately by anyone without the consequence of hanging the good doctor on a coat rack with your jock strap with a sock stuffed in his mouth. This story was run by Perkins Coie, the same law firm that hired Crowdstrike to violate the chain of custody with the DNC server, and who also hired Fusion GPS to create the fake Dossier. All paid for by the DNC who covered up the death of Seth Rich. They went after Congressman Jordan for the same reasons, and next thing you know Jordan's nephew Eli Strickly died in a car crash the same week of the allegations last Summer.

So wait..are you claiming Dr. Strauss never existed because you didn’t encounter him? Or that he did work there but didn’t molest anyone because nobody told you about it?