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I am a registered independent and don't give a f*ck about party politics. The last election cycle I financially supported both a Republican and a Democrat--my support was based on the character, beliefs, and track records of the candidates, not the little letter behind their name. In the present situation, if you think Jordan was lying, some jump to the conclusion that you are Libtard; if you support Jordan, others assume you are a Repugnant. And we wonder why the country is divided? Threads like this make it very easy to see.

It’s not even libtard or repugnant anymore. If you critique Obama, you are racist, homophobe, troglodyte etc...If you critique Trump, you are socialist/communist/Antifa supporter. It’s an either/or proposition, as evidenced on these boards. You either support ________ or you are a _______.

 

The least intelligent on both sides are the loudest & most confident in their positions, which is leading to a dumbing down of our society, and blatant disregard for objectively verifiable facts.

 

Until we have a true Independent party that puts country over party, I will always vote opposite of the party in power.

 

 

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What does any of that have to do with patriotism? There are West Point grads displaying pro communist messages and black power messages at graduation. Being in the military automatically means you love your country? Hardly.

I’ve seen enough of your nonsense on here tonmmow you are a lefty. Sad actually, there are many that are confused in such a way.

Last comment on this thread as this just continues to devolve into dumbness (what exactly is "tonmmow," you brainless dolt?). You're the same guy who was trying to argue on another thread that black people are more violent and criminal than white people, so you lecturing anybody about "nonsense" is a bile-inducing treat. As I said above, I have financially supported both conservative and liberal candidates, so your idiotic accusation that I'm a "lefty" holds no water.  But who needs facts when you can pull a moronic opinion out of your borderline illiterate a$$?  I peg you as neither lefty nor rightie but garden variety imbecile, which you live up (down) to on a consistent basis.

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I rarely get involved in the political talk and I agree with tightwaist on most of what you say, but to vote against the party of power makes no sense to me.  Why not vote for the people that you feel will do the best for our country?  Why can't we support the president and focus on the positives?  I don't care whether it was Obama or Trump, we need to support them.  I'm seeing, from a personal standpoint, higher returns on retirement, my employees are taking home more money in their paychecks, and unemployment(among all groups, blacks, women, hispanics) is at historic low levels.  Many other positives as well.  I think a guy like Trump(despite being a windbag at times) is good for the country.  He is doing what he feels is right and pissing of both republicans and democrats as well, but his results are very good!

 

What's a real disgrace is the bipartisan congress who can't even have a single vote to reduce our taxes or a single vote to confirm judges who, by all accounts, are honorable and great people.  Not one vote??  This trend is the most concerning to me.

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Last comment on this thread as this just continues to devolve into dumbness (what exactly is "tonmmow," you brainless dolt?). You're the same guy who was trying to argue on another thread that black people are more violent and criminal than white people, so you lecturing anybody about "nonsense" is a bile-inducing treat. As I said above, I have financially supported both conservative and liberal candidates, so your idiotic accusation that I'm a "lefty" holds no water. But who needs facts when you can pull a moronic opinion out of your borderline illiterate a$$? I peg you as neither lefty nor rightie but garden variety imbecile, which you live up (down) to on a consistent basis.

So a typo equals dolt? Again about right. Insults when you can’t argue on merit. Illiterate? I won’t bother regard Mg my education the way you ramble about military service, but far from illiterate. You likely wouldn’t compare favorably.

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A truly serious question - what exactly constitutes a "right (or left) rant"? I mean, does calling out a republican (or democrat) president/official for perceived misstatements or bad behavior constitute a left or right wing rant? While I have seen some over-generalizations on this thread (going in both directions) but for the most part I have seen posters identifying specific politicians/individuals and noting comments those individuals have made publicly and calling them out for those comments/behavior. If some people are viewing that as an attack on their fundamental closely held (political) beliefs then I think they really need to get a life. 

 

Some things are as simple as "I think that politician is full of BS and I think s/he need to be called on it." No need for some posters declare war on one aspect or the other of the political system. Keep it in perspective, folks.

 

 

What are you even looking for npope? Seriously, look at the political climate today. Everything ends up this way anyway because things are super heated. Antifa lined up in their black masks this weekend and wreaked havoc in Berkeley, CA. They knocked out the Marine Corps recruiting center window with hammers and threatened the media with violence if they stayed there filming them. One was quoted "the police aren't here to save you, so leave now". 

 

And don't even go there that this is different so stay on topic. Where Jordan is concerned it si basically the same thing. One side is trying very hard to take someone on the other side out and it matters not how they do it. :Peter Fonda over the weekend suggested the D side to commit voting fraud if that is what it takes. What a joke.

 

As far as Jim Jordan goes, what he said is entirely driven by politics. If he is not a politician nobody cares what he knew or didn't know. He is a politician, so all of a sudden what he knew is paramount. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. If he stated he heard rumors the guy was weird or too handsy, they kill him with the "HE KNEW AND DID NOTHING" sword. He says he didn't know and they try to kill him with "HE'S LYING". The whole thing is OBVIOUSLY political. 

 

The fact is that at the time it really does not matter what he knew or did not know. Seemingly the only person who did anything was his superior, Hellickson. Jordan had no additional power over Hellickson, and not more power than any other athlete at tOSU. In fact, I can make a case he had less power than DeSabato and the others because Jordan had no direct knowledge like they claim to have. They couldn't stop Strauss back then, Hellickson couldn't stop him, no other athlete or coach in any other sport at tOSU could stop him. Not one of them ever even filed a formal charge against the guy, all the while cracking jokes about him. Their own actions are the very definition of confusion. Even if we can all assume he heard the locker room talk, the rumors of how pervy the guy was, why would we think Jim Jordan could have stopped him? 

 

Going after Jim Jordan today does nothing to help victims of sexual abuse. It is only political. 

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