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4 hours ago, SuperSaiyanGoku said:

Thanks for the response, So basically nine different state's feed into the national prep tournamenT ...Wow...

Are Independent schools the only one's allowed..??? or can public schools compete there as well..?

 

No publics. Parochial  and other non-public schools are eligible if they do not participate in their state public school state events.

The Philadelphia Catholic schools used to participate up until the PIAA created District XII (12).

Tennessee has a slight exception in that their private schools do participate in the main state event. However, they are in a separate division which they use as their qualifier.

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5 hours ago, gimpeltf said:

No publics. Parochial  and other non-public schools are eligible if they do not participate in their state public school state events.

The Philadelphia Catholic schools used to participate up until the PIAA created District XII (12).

Tennessee has a slight exception in that their private schools do participate in the main state event. However, they are in a separate division which they use as their qualifier.

In Tennessee the public schools and private schools do not compete against each other for the individual or dual match state championship in wrestling or any other sport.  IMO, the top two wrestlers in the private school division are normally the best but due to more schools being on the public school side they would have the most depth in each weight classification.  In a normal season if the state champions competed against each other the private school wrestlers would win 9 or 10 of the 14 weight classifications.  

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8 hours ago, Bryan said:

In Tennessee the public schools and private schools do not compete against each other for the individual or dual match state championship in wrestling or any other sport.  IMO, the top two wrestlers in the private school division are normally the best but due to more schools being on the public school side they would have the most depth in each weight classification.  In a normal season if the state champions competed against each other the private school wrestlers would win 9 or 10 of the 14 weight classifications.  

I want to make sure I am understanding correctly your saying in most case's the finalist in private (top 2) beats the finalist in state's, example N.C. independent finalist would normally be better then the regular state champs from N. Carolina class 1a, 2a ,3a 4a..?? 

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1 hour ago, SuperSaiyanGoku said:

I want to make sure I am understanding correctly your saying in most case's the finalist in private (top 2) beats the finalist in state's, example N.C. independent finalist would normally be better then the regular state champs from N. Carolina class 1a, 2a ,3a 4a..?? 

He's saying in Tennessee.

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2 hours ago, gimpeltf said:

He's saying in Tennessee.

Gotcha I just wanted to say thanks for all the info, i have always known of the national prep's just not in details... 

if you guy's have time and dont mind of course, would love to chat some more i have more question's and opinion's wanted to hear your take on them.

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On 9/24/2018 at 10:26 PM, SuperSaiyanGoku said:

Thanks for the response, So basically nine different state's feed into the national prep tournamenT ...Wow...

Are Independent schools the only one's allowed..??? or can public schools compete there as well..?

 

is this the dumbest question ever asked?

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New England - 50 teams, 6 qualify
New York / New Jersey - 20 teams, 4 qualify
Pennsylvania - 20 teams, 6 qualify
Maryland - 30 teams, top 6 qualify
DC - 8 teams, 1 qualifies
Virginia - 30 teams, 4 qualify
Tennessee - 25 teams, 2 qualify
North Carolina - 15 teams, 1 qualifies
Texas - 20 teams, 3 qualify

230 Teams - 33 qualifiers per weight

Last year's teams included the #1 Team in the Country Blair, two top 5 Teams Wy Sem, three top 20 teams Malvern, plus the #1 Teams (all classifications) from Md, Virginia, and Tennessee.

The Prep board is always re considering how to assign the number of qualifiers per Region. There is also the possibility of expanding the tournament to include more regions.

New England and Tennessee are the only Regions that have a qualifier to get into the Regional Tournament - New England has three conferences that the placers there go to the New England Tournament, Tennessee has two a regional tournaments within the state with the top four from each going to an eight bracket private school state championship from which the top two will qualify.

The Tennessee Region is run by the TSAA, the same organization that runs the two public school state tournaments...but the TSAA Div. 2 is the Private School only state tournament.

The DC Region includes one public school in their tournament, but that school has not yet been allowed to send their individual champions to the National Prep Tournament.

The Pennsylvania Region includes one team from Ohio and one from West Virginia. The Texas Region includes one team from Oklahoma.

Edited by GRAPLER

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On 10/1/2018 at 11:04 PM, GRAPLER said:

New England - 50 teams, 6 qualify
New York / New Jersey - 20 teams, 4 qualify
Pennsylvania - 20 teams, 6 qualify
Maryland - 30 teams, top 6 qualify
DC - 8 teams, 1 qualifies
Virginia - 30 teams, 4 qualify
Tennessee - 25 teams, 2 qualify
North Carolina - 15 teams, 1 qualifies
Texas - 20 teams, 3 qualify

230 Teams - 33 qualifiers per weight

Last year's teams included the #1 Team in the Country Blair, two top 5 Teams Wy Sem, three top 20 teams Malvern, plus the #1 Teams (all classifications) from Md, Virginia, and Tennessee.

The Prep board is always re considering how to assign the number of qualifiers per Region. There is also the possibility of expanding the tournament to include more regions.

New England and Tennessee are the only Regions that have a qualifier to get into the Regional Tournament - New England has three conferences that the placers there go to the New England Tournament, Tennessee has two a regional tournaments within the state with the top four from each going to an eight bracket private school state championship from which the top two will qualify.

The Tennessee Region is run by the TSAA, the same organization that runs the two public school state tournaments...but the TSAA Div. 2 is the Private School only state tournament.

The DC Region includes one public school in their tournament, but that school has not yet been allowed to send their individual champions to the National Prep Tournament.

The Pennsylvania Region includes one team from Ohio and one from West Virginia. The Texas Region includes one team from Oklahoma.

Do you have any idea what new region's are being considered...?? Also what's the reason behind the DC public school not being allowed to have their champion compete at the prep's..?

Edited by SuperSaiyanGoku

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There are teams from Arizona, Washington, and other states that have expressed an interest. Two options - create a "Western Regional Tournament to qualify or have those teams enter an existing Prep Region (which is done in Pa with two out of state teams and Texas with one out of state team). There are also other states, Georgia, Louisiana, etc. that would like to attend, but they currently go to their public school state tournament. 

The one public school in D.C. that competes in the D.C. Region would be the only public school in the tournament, and at this point has not been allowed to attend. An exception may be made allowing those individuals to compete, only from that Region as it is not a state and the governing athletic association there does not sanction wrestling.

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14 hours ago, SuperSaiyanGoku said:

If you were to compare to PA. states which would be consider tougher.?

or other States where would National Prep Rank.. 

Similar to PA, NJ, CA....much better than most states. Some states have so many classifications (Va, Ga, etc) that the state tournament is very watered down.

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This years Beast of the East saw 39 National Prep wrestlers earn medals....including 9 champions of the 14 weights. Plus another 8 were in the round of 12, one match away.

You can count on at least the top four Prep wrestlers at each weight class to out pace most state placers in PA or NJ. 8th vs. 8th is where it gets closer or you may see a slight shift. However, there are several state champs from other neighboring states, e.g. Maryland, West Virginia, Virginia, Delaware etc. who will have state champs this season that would not be anywhere near close to 8th at National Preps and they'll be crowned state champs.

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On 9/26/2018 at 10:40 PM, hammerlockthree said:

is this the dumbest question ever asked?

I doubt it's top 10. 

 It's ridiculous, that some states divide athletic competitions, by the schools admission policy.   Next we will have separate competitions for schools with or without open enrollment.  

 

 

 

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Lehigh invented it. There have been a couple of serious calls to move it but as of yet the board hasn't been completely convinced the other sites have the resources to man it properly.

Don't forget that these are generally smallish Prep schools without large venues on site. It would probably have to be at a college campus (one did make an offer a few years back).

It's on the table for discussion. 

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2 hours ago, Dr. Novak said:

So it's really the Eastern Prep championships otherwise relocate to St. Louis or Chicago and attract other schools.

There aren't a ton of prep schools out of the East. We almost never get requests from the other time zones outside of Texas.

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