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Who at Penn State can beat him?  Nolf and bigger maybe, he beats 149 down.  While at Rutgers, he has Ashnault. 

 

He looks unbeatable right now.  Fix is a mini-test.  I think he puts Micic on his back and stuffs everything he has. 

 

Lol. I like Nick. Was disappointed when he left but I’ve been watching him since high school and love watching him compete.

 

That being said. Are you crazy? Lol. Him and RBY will be a 1-2 point match at worse either way. You think he’s beating Nick Lee? You crazy son? Then you think he’ll give up 16 pounds and beat Berge? Laughable

 

 

Nolf only a maybe? Holy Christ some of the RU fans are really insane.

 

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On 12/17/2018 at 1:17 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

I'm not saying you MUST have the best training partners to be a champ, but it certainly helps.  Those who brought up Gross and Yanni as examples are being a bit disingenuous as SD State and Cornell are not programs that lack (1) top tier coaches and (2) a history of producing AAs and national champ contenders.

 

Rutgers has neither of those qualities.

That might be true for Cornell but not too long ago SD St. wasn't even a Div. 1 program and was debating if they would even keep wrestling before Bono was hired. I am pretty sure working out everyday with Ashnault and Pritzlaff gives him some quality workout partners.

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On 12/17/2018 at 2:11 PM, jackwebster said:

rs: here's metcalf talking about himself: https://www.flowrestling.org/events/5000195-2008-ncaa-di-wrestling-championships/videos?playing=5092909&limit=27 .  You can interpret his reaction to winning a national championship however you like, but he seems a little weird to me.  I'm not alone.

Definitely strange. 

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On 12/17/2018 at 12:41 PM, BHawk91 said:

This is not true at all. I just think you are hurt he didn't want to stay at PSU because he wasn't happy there.  Does Gross practice day in and day out with "the best", do you really think Yianni practices with "the best"?  No, they don't get the same training partners that a Lee at Iowa would get or a RBY at PSU would get but both of them are champs.  I just think you are so hurt he left the PSU program and you as a fan can't stand it so you want to try and bring him down.

It troubles me that you are this naive.

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On 12/17/2018 at 2:11 PM, jackwebster said:

rs: here's metcalf talking about himself: https://www.flowrestling.org/events/5000195-2008-ncaa-di-wrestling-championships/videos?playing=5092909&limit=27 .  You can interpret his reaction to winning a national championship however you like, but he seems a little weird to me.  I'm not alone.

maybe a little strange....but, after coming out on top of what may be the absolute BEST weight class field in NCAA history (149 in 2008) I think I'll give him a pass...he was in a zone

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2 hours ago, russelscout said:

Yes, but I wonder if jackwebster gave the same criticism for dylan palacio? He gave some strange interviews. Was that a reflection on Koll?

I can dig some tu quoque: Palacio seems a little crazy but there's a meta element to it that makes him more palatable to me. I haven't seen much of Koll, but if he can accomodate the spaciness of Palacio and Dake and inspire their confidence, then they're a good fit. 

 

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On ‎12‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 2:48 PM, ScarletKnight said:

Who at Penn State can beat him?  Nolf and bigger maybe, he beats 149 down.  While at Rutgers, he has Ashnault. 

 

He looks unbeatable right now.  Fix is a mini-test.  I think he puts Micic on his back and stuffs everything he has. 

I think Fix will be more than a "mini-test" for the guy was barely got by John Erneste 3-2.  Erneste is a good wrestler, but has never AA'd.  Suriano looked far from unbeatable in that match.

I expect something like a 2-1 match with Fix, with Suriano likely getting dinged for stalling.

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22 hours ago, LordNelson said:

It troubles me that you are this naive.

How am I being naive on this?  You don't agree that just because you don't have "the best" in the room doesn't mean you can't become an NCAA champ. It happens all the time.  It certainly helps to have better competition in the room but it doesn't make or break everyone.  Plus, Nick has a pretty darn good wrestling partner in his room.

Please tell me how I am being naive.

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On 12/17/2018 at 7:11 AM, jackwebster said:

I was watching the recent Brands' interviews on flo, and they reinforced just how important chemistry between the athlete, coach, and school must be in order to get the best performance out of all involved. When I listen to either Brands, I'm filled with disgust. I can't stand their proud philistinism, their childish euphemisms for curse words, their cliche butchering, their condescending stares, etc.  Their idiosyncrasies are sorta funny until du Pont comes up; then, they come off as not a little evil.  I can't imagine taking a recruiting trip to Iowa City and deciding anything other than that these guys are catastrophically obtuse. I get the same feeling for some of their athletes (not Lee ... he seems totally normal). Yet, the right kids thrive in their program, and the program puts out a great product (I love watching Marinelli).

If Suriano felt out of place in Happy Valley, then good on him for moving on.  

https://www.flowrestling.org/events/6261290-lehigh-vs-iowa-2018-ncaa-wrestling/videos?playing=6288620&limit=60

 

LOL, looks like one of the Iowa bashing nut jobs has a new name. I thought with actual wrestling discussion happening at times this site had cleaned up the trash.

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20 minutes ago, BLT said:

LOL, looks like one of the Iowa bashing nut jobs has a new name. I thought with actual wrestling discussion happening at times this site had cleaned up the trash.

Marinelli notes the same peculiarites. He just thinks they are "awesome" rather than revolting: https://www.flowrestling.org/video/6293176-alex-marinelli-on-terry-the-flofilm

 

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On 12/17/2018 at 12:24 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Suriano is happy being "the man" at Rutgers.  However, I don't think the room and coaching staff at Rutgers is comparable to what he had a PSU.  To become the best you have to practice day in and day out with the best.  Suriano kicking his teammates' butts on a daily basis is great for his ego, but I doubt he will improve as much as if he stayed at PSU.

 

I predict he will make another finals but I don't see him winning a National Championship, sadly.  

 

But then again his priority seems to be a future in MMA.

You obviously have no idea who Donny Pritzlaff is.  I would take Donny anyday over little Sanderson.

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7 hours ago, DEFan79 said:

I think Fix will be more than a "mini-test" for the guy was barely got by John Erneste 3-2.  Erneste is a good wrestler, but has never AA'd.  Suriano looked far from unbeatable in that match.

I expect something like a 2-1 match with Fix, with Suriano likely getting dinged for stalling.

I was never worried that suriano would lose that match and he redeemed himself in the finals.   

Suriano is better at both top and bottom than Fix and has a better chance of getting backpoints off a takedown.   Anyways, I'm looking forward to it and I'll be there in person. 

 

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9 hours ago, BHawk91 said:

How am I being naive on this?  You don't agree that just because you don't have "the best" in the room doesn't mean you can't become an NCAA champ. It happens all the time.  It certainly helps to have better competition in the room but it doesn't make or break everyone.  Plus, Nick has a pretty darn good wrestling partner in his room.

Please tell me how I am being naive.

Yeah, reading comprehension not my strong point here so apologies on the naive statement and tone.

But, I will say that Yianni has ridiculous partners to train with.  If you do a little research there you'll find he rolls with world team members daily.

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3 hours ago, ScarletKnight said:

I was never worried that suriano would lose that match and he redeemed himself in the finals.   

Suriano is better at both top and bottom than Fix and has a better chance of getting backpoints off a takedown.   Anyways, I'm looking forward to it and I'll be there in person. 

 

Last time they wrestled it took them a half an hour to decide things.  The real question is who is where since then?  

Fix to me has jumped levels, and I'm not sure Suriano has.  

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6 hours ago, ScarletKnight said:

I was never worried that suriano would lose that match and he redeemed himself in the finals.   

Suriano is better at both top and bottom than Fix and has a better chance of getting backpoints off a takedown.   Anyways, I'm looking forward to it and I'll be there in person. 

 

Well, pretty anyone else who saw the match and isn't Suriano fanboy could see how close it was and how he avoided engagement inb\ the 3rd.

 

Better on bottom? Probably.  Better on top and more likely to turn off a TD?  Ummm...no

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