mlbruem 138 Report post Posted December 27, 2018 What do you think? Looking at the South Beach Duals and the 16 teams that are there this could really be a premier event if they made it a dual tournament with an overall champion. Would be a good chance they could sell the semi's and finals to a network as a national TV broadcast. 1 gallison reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WF89 109 Report post Posted December 27, 2018 Great idea Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichB 197 Report post Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) The coaches are probably there partly to avoid meatgrinders of Midlands and Scuffle. So I doubt if anyone wants 6 duals. So I think a 16 team tournament only makes sense if it is an everyone gets exactly 4 meets event. The other thing they would like to avoid is rematches of teams seen in season, so you want to avoid Lehigh-Cornell, Va-NC-NCS, Minn-Ind-Purdue-MSU etc, You might be able to avoid that with switches in the consolations (who really cares if a team finishes 12-13? But the championship needs to be true. Edited December 27, 2018 by RichB 1 mlbruem reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cary by the Lake 51 Report post Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) **** South Beach Duals 12-29-30-2018 Lehigh will wrestle 4 duals this weekend (Minnesota, Missouri, North Carolina and Virginia) at the South Beach Duals. This will be the first time this season, Lehigh has had a somewhat full team and will give The Mountain Hawks an opportunity to see how they shape up against some top competition, with a fairly full team. Only 125 (Schram) and 133 (S. Parker) will be missing potential starters. Below please see the wrestlers for each team per Track Wrestling which is offering Streaming for $19.95. Lehigh Minnesota Missouri N. Carolina Virginia 125: J. Lane, Russell Smith, Heilman Mueller Resnick Valdiviez 133: Farro, Lizak Erneste, Harding, Hayes Paetzel Hart Szymanksi 141: Karam, McKee, Eierman Hernandez, Krivus, Pomrinca Jones Headlee Hart Kiyono 149: Schuyler, Thorn Mauller, O’Connor, Murphy, Hoffman Stigall McClure Martino 157: Humphreys, Bleise, Jacques Davidson Keating K. Lane Patton 165: GF Wolf Brolsma Flynn, Monday, Coy Fortuna McDonald 174: Kutler, Skatzka, Lewis Kane Patrick, Gallick O’Reilly Peck Kinsey 184: Preisch, Webster, Wisman, Ness Shaney Weiler, Krone Mariott McClure Price 197: Jakobsen, Anderson, Watkins, Queen, Aiello Gentile Streifel Kelling Blair 285: Wood, Steveson Elam, Daniel Love, Lacombe Jiovenetta, Scherer Bohlken Edited December 27, 2018 by Cary by the Lake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Show_Me 309 Report post Posted December 28, 2018 3 hours ago, RichB said: The coaches are probably there partly to avoid meatgrinders of Midlands and Scuffle. So I doubt if anyone wants 6 duals. So I think a 16 team tournament only makes sense if it is an everyone gets exactly 4 meets event. The other thing they would like to avoid is rematches of teams seen in season, so you want to avoid Lehigh-Cornell, Va-NC-NCS, Minn-Ind-Purdue-MSU etc, You might be able to avoid that with switches in the consolations (who really cares if a team finishes 12-13? But the championship needs to be true. RichB nailed it. The 2 Coaches that were instrumental in creating this event (Rob Koll & Brian Smith) have no desire to make this a bracketed/meat-grinder event. The purpose is/was to get their wrestlers matches during the Holiday break with the "flexibility" to dual opponents of THEIR choosing. And Florida is a nice late-December destination. This has become a nice Event in just a few years and serves the purpose for all participating Teams. 1 mlbruem reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlbruem 138 Report post Posted December 28, 2018 58 minutes ago, Show_Me said: RichB nailed it. The 2 Coaches that were instrumental in creating this event (Rob Koll & Brian Smith) have no desire to make this a bracketed/meat-grinder event. The purpose is/was to get their wrestlers matches during the Holiday break with the "flexibility" to dual opponents of THEIR choosing. And Florida is a nice late-December destination. This has become a nice Event in just a few years and serves the purpose for all participating Teams. Well that is to bad as it is a missed opportunity. They could do basically what they originally intended just tweak it to produce a title match that could draw some national attention and good publicity for the sport. No one would have to wrestle more than the 4 duals in doing so. 1 Show_Me reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Missourimatman 51 Report post Posted December 28, 2018 On 12/27/2018 at 9:41 AM, mlbruem said: What do you think? Looking at the South Beach Duals and the 16 teams that are there this could really be a premier event if they made it a dual tournament with an overall champion. Would be a good chance they could sell the semi's and finals to a network as a national TV broadcast. MU couldn't fill Jesse Audiorium for the Cornell dual a few years ago. It is hard to argue an event has national appeal when you can't even sell it in your own back yard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonBryant 1,696 Report post Posted December 29, 2018 22 hours ago, mlbruem said: Well that is to bad as it is a missed opportunity. They could do basically what they originally intended just tweak it to produce a title match that could draw some national attention and good publicity for the sport. No one would have to wrestle more than the 4 duals in doing so. Virginia Duals has been around for 39 years and while this year's field is slim on the D1 side, the opportunity has been there. For the 40th, we're looking to make it a competitive bracketed event. 2 Housebuye and mlbruem reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlbruem 138 Report post Posted December 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Missourimatman said: MU couldn't fill Jesse Audiorium for the Cornell dual a few years ago. It is hard to argue an event has national appeal when you can't even sell it in your own back yard. With friends like you we don't need enemies! This is an invalid comparison of events with loads of differences and appeal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,664 Report post Posted December 29, 2018 On 12/27/2018 at 10:41 AM, mlbruem said: What do you think? Looking at the South Beach Duals and the 16 teams that are there this could really be a premier event if they made it a dual tournament with an overall champion. Would be a good chance they could sell the semi's and finals to a network as a national TV broadcast. Even the mention of this will inspire Sanderson and brands to begin activating against it. This kind of talk threatens their easy power structures. 2 mlbruem and cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brickhousey 120 Report post Posted December 29, 2018 Wyoming over #4 nc state huge win Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Pinnum reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigerfan 178 Report post Posted December 29, 2018 My track stream crashed at 184. Can't restart it yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simple 271 Report post Posted December 29, 2018 Steveson over Wood 9-4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonBryant 1,696 Report post Posted December 29, 2018 45 minutes ago, brickhousey said: Wyoming over #4 nc state huge win Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk #4 in tournament points. They're #7 in the dual meet rankings (Coaches Poll) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 786 Report post Posted December 29, 2018 the real south beach duals oppty is to find a local event stream provider that knows how to ensure they can handle the volume. 1 mlbruem reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlbruem 138 Report post Posted December 31, 2018 Rob Koll talks about possible evolution of South Beach Duals http://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/PortalPlayer.jsp?TIM=1546223875817&twSessionId=orrsxkuymkuhzav&videoId=943934132 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 832 Report post Posted December 31, 2018 57 minutes ago, mlbruem said: Rob Koll talks about possible evolution of South Beach Duals http://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/PortalPlayer.jsp?TIM=1546223875817&twSessionId=orrsxkuymkuhzav&videoId=943934132 It would be great if we could have the national duals...Penn State...Iowa....make it a true championship.... BAHAHAHA 1 mlbruem reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
