Old Corps 102 Report post Posted January 7 Bo Nickal has been offering a hand-up to opponents he’s just pinned. He appears sincere while doing so and I haven’t observed any opponents who’ve been offended by this gesture. I think our sport could use more of this; a return to a higher level of outward mutual respect among wrestlers. Dominating an opponent, putting on a show for the fans while displaying respect and good sportsmanship used to be the rule rather than the exception. It starts with parents and coaches. Food for thought. 4 1 Jaysus, stp, HurricaneWrestling2 and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goheels1812 50 Report post Posted January 7 Bo is one of my favorite non Tar Heels to watch. He seems like he is the epitome of class. I completely agree with your sentiment about him seeming sincere and bringing great sportsmanship to every match. There are also some funny stories about him from teammates I’ve heard on podcasts. I look forward to seeing his career after college as well. 1 Jaysus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 974 Report post Posted January 7 I don't see respect in that gesture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,379 Report post Posted January 7 (edited) It really isn't a respectful gesture at all all. It's completely condescending. If someone pins Bo, and tries to help him up, and he takes it, I'll be very impressed. Edited January 7 by hammerlockthree 1 Fletcher reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 597 Report post Posted January 7 13 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: I don't see respect in that gesture. Nice, only took 3 posts to turn a positive into a negative. :( 3 LHU125, Lump and Jaysus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornercoach 447 Report post Posted January 7 .... not condescending at all- - I like when I see it in the NFL..... very cool..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HurricaneWrestling2 353 Report post Posted January 7 44 minutes ago, Old Corps said: Bo Nickal has been offering a hand-up to opponents he’s just pinned. He appears sincere while doing so and I haven’t observed any opponents who’ve been offended by this gesture. I think our sport could use more of this; a return to a higher level of outward mutual respect among wrestlers. Dominating an opponent, putting on a show for the fans while displaying respect and good sportsmanship used to be the rule rather than the exception. It starts with parents and coaches. Food for thought. Owings and Gable were both on their knees facing each other when the whistle blew ending their match. Larry immediately extended his hand to Dan and helped him to his feet. (It's at the 4:30 mark in the below video.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,363 Report post Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, cornercoach said: .... not condescending at all- - I like when I see it in the NFL..... very cool..... You see it a lot in college football as well. Shows good sportsmanship and expenditure of your energy to save a bit of energy of the opponent. 1 Lump reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,513 Report post Posted January 7 33 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: It really isn't a respectful gesture at all all. It's completely condescending. If someone pins Bo, and tries to help him up, and he takes it, I'll be very impressed. Yea but you see everything as condescending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HurricaneWrestling2 353 Report post Posted January 7 Bear Bryant's Instructions to his linesmen: Go knock your opponent's dick in the dirt. Lean over and give him a hand up. Turn around & run back to the huddle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 974 Report post Posted January 7 22 minutes ago, ionel said: Nice, only took 3 posts to turn a positive into a negative. :( Excellent input, Sweet Polly Purebred! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowrestle 567 Report post Posted January 7 Good stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,379 Report post Posted January 7 (edited) When Mark Branch blew out his knee in the NCAA finals, as a heavy favorite, on his way to like an 8 month recovery, and he dragged himself unto the podium a few minutes later to endorse what must have felt like the ultimate tragedy of his life...that was sportsmanship. Fawning over every action degrades the concept, turning it into a bland little cliché that no one cares about. This participation trophy mentality is doing a lot of damage. Edited January 7 by hammerlockthree 1 olddirty reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Corps 102 Report post Posted January 7 14 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: When Mark Branch blew out his knee in the NCAA finals, as a heavy favorite, on his way to like an 8 month recovery, and he dragged himself unto the podium a few minutes later to endorse what must have felt like the ultimate tragedy of his life...that was sportsmanship. Fawning over every action degrades the concept, turning it into a bland little cliché that no one cares about. This participation trophy mentality is doing a lot of damage. I’m curious as to how you associate emphasizing sportsmanship and mutual respect among wrestlers with a “participation trophy mentality?” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,379 Report post Posted January 7 Because you have degraded an elevated concept by inserting it into the equivalent of a rock star thanking his fans. You should have to do more than not be a jerk to be praised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goheels1812 50 Report post Posted January 7 1 minute ago, hammerlockthree said: Because you have degraded an elevated concept by inserting it into the equivalent of a rock star thanking his fans. You should have to do more than not be a jerk to be praised. Like, for example, be humble in winning by extending a hand to your opponent? I like what Bo does better than the guys who flex over their opponents and things of that sort after beating them. 1 Jaysus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,379 Report post Posted January 7 (edited) Yeah so you are saying that anyone who isn't a complete a$$ is a role model....participation trophy thinking. PS Bo participates in the behavior your are talking about when the stage is big enough but who cares. Edited January 7 by hammerlockthree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,513 Report post Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: Yeah so you are saying that anyone who isn't a complete a$$ is a role model....participation trophy thinking. PS Bo participate in the behavior your are talking about when the stage is big enough but who cares. So who are some "incomplete a$$es" that you consider role models currently wrestling? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,379 Report post Posted January 7 (edited) I didn't reference them! Heels did! I don't know who he is talking about, and you are supporting my point that Bo is not better a sportsman than anyone else who always wins. Edited January 7 by hammerlockthree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Corps 102 Report post Posted January 7 1 minute ago, hammerlockthree said: Because you have degraded an elevated concept by inserting it into the equivalent of a rock star thanking his fans. You should have to do more than not be a jerk to be praised. I started wrestling in 1963. Sportsmanship was the #1 priority of every coach, team and parent that I was exposed to. Small gestures like helping your opponent up after you pinned him, giving him a nod of the head and a real handshake at the end of a match and going over to check on him if he injury defaulted were considered gestures of good sportsmanship. I’ve never seen Nickal act like a jerk. I don’t think he’s being disrespectful when he helps his opponent up. I also don’t think he’s seeking additional or undue praise. I do think he’s a good role model for young wrestlers to emulate I’d say the teams that have occupied the top spots at the NCAAs the past several years are led by coaches who seem to emphasize substance over image. In wrestling, as in most everything in life, class begets class. As coaches and parents act, so act their wrestlers. Your certainly entitled to your opinion. Mine is that we need less UFC/WWE antics and more classy behavior in our sport. 1 Lump reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Corps 102 Report post Posted January 7 17 minutes ago, goheels1812 said: Like, for example, be humble in winning by extending a hand to your opponent? I like what Bo does better than the guys who flex over their opponents and things of that sort after beating them. Concur! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 1,875 Report post Posted January 7 1 Jaysus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goheels1812 50 Report post Posted January 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: I didn't reference them! Heels did! I don't know who he is talking about, and you are supporting my point that Bo is not better a sportsman than anyone else who always wins. I actually never called anyone a “complete a$$”. I simply stated I like guys better that help an opponent up when they win than flex over them. That’s not me calling anyone any names, just stating a preference. Edited January 7 by goheels1812 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,513 Report post Posted January 7 1 minute ago, hammerlockthree said: I didn't reference them! Heels did! I don't know how he is talking about, and you are supporting my point that Bo is not better a sportsman than anyone else who always wins. You said his helping up his opponent was condescending. That's very different than being normal or nothing special. I never said anything about Bo being a tremendous sportsman, however you absolutely implied that he was being unsportsmanlike when helping up his opponent by saying the gesture was condescending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,379 Report post Posted January 7 Corps, First off, I was wrong to say it was condescending that was inflammatory on my part. My main thought is that Bo Nickal has more reason than anyone in NCAA wrestling to show good sportsmanship. when his chips are down and he does it, praise him then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
