Mpchillin 114 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: Ahh. Let him keep digging. It's funny. He’s not wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,757 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mpchillin said: He’s not wrong. So his long diatribe about Hall sitting is accurate? Good one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHawk91 32 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, BigTenFanboy said: 1. People saw him wanting to leave coming. This wasn't all that shocking. Also dont be so sure he couldnt beat Iowa had he stayed. You also mention how he left his alma mater. I guess everyone who coaches/works for a school other than their alma mater are in the wrong according to you. 3. Brands doesnt owe anyone any reason at all, however that wasn't the claim wasn't. This addresses WHY hes disliked. You do care. If you didnt care you wouldnt mention it. 4. You are speculating on ISU's desire to wrestle PSU and Cael. Neither side and publicly made it a point to want to or not want to wrestle each other. VT actively and publicly campaigned to wrestle Iowa which Brands actively and publicly avoided. The only point here that's being made here is you have no idea what "exactly the same thing" means. 1) Did he leave his coaching job to take another job? Yes or no? It is the exact same thing Brands did. 3) I personally don't care. me, myself, I don't care if a coach decides to sit a wrestler. As a fan I would love to see these match ups but I don't get my panties in a bundle like you ladies do when a coach sits his wrestler. This is a reason why a coach is hated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpchillin 114 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: So his long diatribe about Hall sitting is accurate? Good one. Minus that, of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BHawk91 said: 1) Did he leave his coaching job to take another job? Yes or no? It is the exact same thing Brands did. 3) I personally don't care. me, myself, I don't care if a coach decides to sit a wrestler. As a fan I would love to see these match ups but I don't get my panties in a bundle like you ladies do when a coach sits his wrestler. This is a reason why a coach is hated. 1) Again Brands is criticized for the manner in which he left. Not because he left. You can pretend they're the same but they're not. 3) You do care. You are the one who's got their "panties in a bundle" over the criticism that Brands gets. Edited February 1, 2019 by BigTenFanboy 1 Lump reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, Mpchillin said: Minus that, of course. He is wrong, because if Cael sits Hall and says the reason is because of a "Coaches' Decision" he will get criticized for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,757 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mpchillin said: Minus that, of course. You didn't realize that was what I was talking about? Guess the internetz are hard, huh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHawk91 32 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, BigTenFanboy said: 1) Again Brands is criticized for the manner in which he left. Not because he left. You can pretend they're the same but they're not. 3) You do care. You are the one who's got their "panties in a bundle" over the criticism that Brands gets. If that helps you sleep at night keep telling yourself that Cael left ISU and didn't do the exact same thing Brands did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpchillin 114 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, TBar1977 said: You didn't realize that was what I was talking about? Guess the internetz are hard, huh? Most of the time, you talk in circles so I wasn’t sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,757 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Mpchillin said: Most of the time, you talk in circles so I wasn’t sure. Weak. 1/10. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, BHawk91 said: If that helps you sleep at night keep telling yourself that Cael left ISU and didn't do the exact same thing Brands did. Surely it helps you to lie to yourself because if you saw things how they were in reality you wouldn't get a wink of sleep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHawk91 32 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, BigTenFanboy said: Surely it helps you to lie to yourself because if you saw things how they were in reality you wouldn't get a wink of sleep. HAHA, you're an idiot! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, BHawk91 said: HAHA, you're an idiot! Good one. Keep crying that Brands get bashed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boompa 171 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 Most new head coaches when hired usually have a clause that they will only leave if a certain position opens. I guarantee Tom had that clause for Iowa when he took the job at VT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKHUNTER 284 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 I think the only TRUE cael haters are ISU people.......... and they may have a good argument...... with how he replaced his coach and mentor. Then jumped ship shortly after. The rest that bad mouth Cael are farting in the wind...... or maybe more appropriately..... spitting on superman's cape! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 1,826 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 Reasons I hate Cael? 1) he leaves a smell in his wake. it smells, vaguely, of brimstone and offal. 2) I have it on good authority he's not a virgin. 3) He's not truly bald, but is faking genetic superiority through shaving his head 4) He killed my family. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potentiallydangerous 191 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 Even if I wanted to hate Cael, there is nothing to hate. On the other hand,Tom Brands acts like an entitled lunatic during matches. 2 Lump and KCMO2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Morgan 36 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 Hate is a strong word and gets attention as a topic. I would wager very few people actually hate someone else. They may have mannerisms that are annoying, behavior you don't agree with, or beliefs you don't share. Hate? doubt it 1 TBar1977 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 1,826 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, potentiallydangerous said: Even if I wanted to hate Cael, there is nothing to hate. On the other hand,Tom Brands acts like an entitled lunatic during matches. What are you, unAmerican? Don't you know we love entitled lunatics in this country? Who do you think the President is, for crying out loud? Edited February 1, 2019 by TobusRex 1 Lump reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 1,826 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, John Morgan said: Hate is a strong word and gets attention as a topic. I would wager very few people actually hate someone else. They may have mannerisms that are annoying, behavior you don't agree with, or beliefs you don't share. Hate? doubt it Can you think of a stronger word than hate? That might describe some of these guy's feeling about Cael a little more accurately! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrissn2001 79 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 It's not hate, that's a strong word. If he said tomorrow that he was going to represent the US in the 2020 Olympics we'd all be behind him. For now, it's a general frustration that he's put together such a strong program that has crushed the parody of our favorite sport. I think most of us want wrestling to be like the 133 weight class. Cael is eliminating the climax of the national championship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portajohn 111 Report post Posted February 1, 2019 I hate Cael because I'm a Penn State fan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCMO2 595 Report post Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, John Morgan said: Hate is a strong word and gets attention as a topic. I would wager very few people actually hate someone else. They may have mannerisms that are annoying, behavior you don't agree with, or beliefs you don't share. Hate? doubt it Disagree. Even though it's been a while, I still HATE that neighbor who lets his dog sh*t in my yard. Edited February 2, 2019 by KCMO2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 1,826 Report post Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, KCMO2 said: Disagree. Even though it's been a while, I still HATE that neighbor who lets his dog sh*t in my yard. I hate to break it to you, but it wasn't your neighbor's dog crapping in your yard. It was CAEL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 1,826 Report post Posted February 2, 2019 9 hours ago, Mpchillin said: Most of the time, you talk in circles so I wasn’t sure. You lie. He speaks in parallelograms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites