Penn State @ Ohio State

[HurricaneWrestling2 563]

5 minutes ago, russelscout said:

Is Gibbons drunk?

Usually.

[russelscout 1,573]

1 minute ago, LHN94 said:

You're not appreciating his incoherent stories?

When he was talking about schnupp standing between hall and Nolf and one laughing, you could tell he realized he wasn't making sense, but he was too committed at that point.

[headshuck 2,132]

I suspect tOSU got intimidated and it just looks like they are out-conditioned by the end.  Win those first 2 matches, get fire in the belly and things turn out differently.  

 

[BigTenFanboy 1,694]

Cenzo and Jaggers having a friendly conversation at the end of the dual after the handshakes.

[russelscout 1,573]

12 minutes ago, russelscout said:

I just don't think that is the difference. I gave PSU and their staff credit. I don't think saying they are the best conditioned and that is the difference is the ultimate compliment.

Am I allowed to disagree with you and think it was the factors I mentioned earlier? Or must I concede?

[GoNotQuietly 813]

3 minutes ago, MSU158 said:

That isn’t what I said. I am pointing out that they have nearly superior conditioning at EVERY weight and, as a result, are able to win even the few times they are underdogs. 

It IS a major factor that can’t be ignored. 

One thing Coach Green from Sem taught me, is that if you constantly force your team to look to score no matter what all season/every match/every position, they will be in better shape than if you had them run a million sprints and aerodynes and hold close leads.

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2 minutes ago, russelscout said:

Am I allowed to disagree with you and think it was the factors I mentioned earlier? Or must I concede?

Although you quoted yourself, I assume you meant to quote me.  I have no issue with you not thinking conditioning was the ultimate factor. I would just like you to cite a match this season, by any of the starters from 133-285 for their conditioning was even a slightly negative factor in their match. Other than maybe RBY at the Scuffle, where he looked zombified, I can’t think of any!

[buckshot1969 432]

Bo is actually trending on Twitter. You might see a wrestler trend during the national finals, you never see that during a regular season meet.

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1 minute ago, MSU158 said:

Although you quoted yourself, I assume you meant to quote me.  I have no issue with you not thinking conditioning was the ultimate factor. I would just like you to cite a match this season, by any of the starters from 133-285 for their conditioning was even a slightly negative factor in their match. Other than maybe RBY at the Scuffle, where he looked zombified, I can’t think of any!

So, you're criticizing Schnupp's conditioning, eh?

[buckshot1969 432]

28 minutes ago, GoNotQuietly said:

What did Bo pin him with?

Awesomeness

[MSU158 1,465]

Just now, HurricaneWrestling2 said:

So, you're criticizing Schnupp's conditioning, eh?

Lol, only you would twist that. He is often too overwhelmed talent wise for gas tank to really be measured. Still, feel free to add him and you may still have a hard time finding gas tank issues for PSU. 

[Boompa 163]

I've said it before, going forward, tOSU will not be the team to unseat PSU...ever.

They just don't have it.

[russelscout 1,573]

9 minutes ago, MSU158 said:

Although you quoted yourself, I assume you meant to quote me.  I have no issue with you not thinking conditioning was the ultimate factor. I would just like you to cite a match this season, by any of the starters from 133-285 for their conditioning was even a slightly negative factor in their match. Other than maybe RBY at the Scuffle, where he looked zombified, I can’t think of any!

Oh, so they are pretty well conditioned throughout, except for a few instances and maybe 1 weight. That sounds like a lot of teams. I just think conditioning is ussually pretty good amongst the top teams.

[TobusRex 1,737]

I apologize for the inaccuracy of my prediction. I thought Moore would make it to the 2nd period :(

[buckshot1969 432]

Verk was seriously impressive in this match.

[NJDan 529]

Bo is also closing in on Nolf's PSU pin record. Nolf better slow down his scoring so he doesn't tech guys before he can pin 'em.

[TobusRex 1,737]

Jason Nolf is a meanie.

[TobusRex 1,737]

8 minutes ago, buckshot1969 said:

Verk was seriously impressive in this match.

 

Probably Verk is better and Jordan worse than people thought.

[TobusRex 1,737]

So Cael held out Rasheed? Weak.

[Jimmy Cinnabon 218]

Manville did pretty well for wrestling the #1 184 as a 165 pounder.

[Cradle1 229]

1 hour ago, treep2000 said:

Ok.  Last last post.  Ohio State looks as if they are simply not even there.  No one has shown any sense of what they can and should do.  It's so perplexing.

I think the first two matches really set the tone and the mystique of PSU took over.

[Aviator12 196]

Many of us called Moore getting pinned by Nickal. It’s just a HORRIBLE matchup nightmare for Moore. I noted he’d get decked because Moore is too offensive, leaving himself prone to make even one mistake and which would/will then capitalize.

After watching tonight, another part of Moore’s style stood out to me which makes it even worse. If Moore doesn’t learn to keep his head up after shooting his double leg, I literally think Nickal could pin Moore everytime the wrestle.

Moore is just too careless with his offense/shots and especially his head placement which Nickal will lock up in a cradle every time.

Moore needs to tighten that up or the result remains the same.

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1 hour ago, HurricaneWrestling2 said:

As much as I love Nolf, I'd have to vote for Bo if they were giving out the Hodge today.  He's got 2 more pins and a slightly higher PPM average.

They should just award it to them jointly It’s completely impossible to choose between the two

[Cradle1 229]

2 minutes ago, Aviator12 said:

Many of us called Moore getting pinned by Nickal. It’s just a HORRIBLE matchup nightmare for Moore. I noted he’d get decked because Moore is too offensive, leaving himself prone to make even one mistake and which would/will then capitalize.

After watching tonight, another part of Moore’s style stood out to me which makes it even worse. If Moore doesn’t learn to keep his head up after shooting his double leg, I literally think Nickal could pin Moore everytime the wrestle.

Moore is just too careless with his offense/shots and especially his head placement which Nickal will lock up in a cradle every time.

Moore needs to tighten that up or the result remains the same.

Well said.  As a Buckeye fan, I kind of knew in my gut it was going to be a pin.

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2 hours ago, treep2000 said:

As a buckeye fan, I am pissed.  They look like they don't give a hell.  Hey Ryan, duals matter.  You did NOT get your guys ready for this.  Both pletcher and McKenna couldn't keep the pace.  This is gonna be ugly

 

2 hours ago, Housebuye said:

I can assure you Ryan cares about this dual and tried to get the team prepared. They just aren’t prepared. Probably also has to do with how good penn state is and how good they are at peaking when they need to

 

I wouldn't blame tOSU or their coaches. PSU spent a good 4 weeks training thru and now they are on the other side in beast mode. I was hoping to see something like this tonite from the Blue and White.