lu1979 558 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 After D Lewis pinned Zahid the seeding for 174 @ NCAAs seems to be 1 - Hall 2 - Lewis 3 - Zahid 4 - Amine 5 - Kutler This assumes that Hall beats Amine in the B10 finals and the other 3 don't take any other losses through the end of the conference meets. After the top 5 the next contenders appear to be Lujan, Joe Smith, McFadden & Labriola. This is going to be great weight at nationals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pish6969 293 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 Best weight class in the country hands down this year. Two champs and 7 other studsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Husker_Du 838 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 was thinking about this yesterday. but you have to also remember that Zahid beat Amine, who beat Lewis. could see them keeping Zahid at #2 1 Housebuye reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pish6969 293 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 was thinking about this yesterday. but you have to also remember that Zahid beat Amine, who beat Lewis. could see them keeping Zahid at #2 3 beat 2. Seems pretty simple swap Edit..Actually just saw Amine was 3 not Lewis. That being said still have to move Lewis up to 2 Zahid to 3 and Amine to 4 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Husker_Du 838 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 lewis was #4 behind amine for what i posted about. amine beat lewis. and rankings aren't the same as seeds. could certainly see it either way. just saying i don't think it's a foregone conclusion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pish6969 293 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 lewis was #4 behind amine for what i posted about. amine beat lewis. and rankings aren't the same as seeds. could certainly see it either way. just saying i don't think it's a foregone conclusion. Yup..just edited my post before you posted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pish6969 293 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 lewis was #4 behind amine for what i posted about. amine beat lewis. and rankings aren't the same as seeds. could certainly see it either way. just saying i don't think it's a foregone conclusion. True but if we not going to move people up and down for winning and losing ranked matchups then what the hells the point? Do we just say..ok Lewis, since you lost to Amine you can never move ahead of him? He just beat Zahid who in the beginning of the season, many thought would never lose another college match Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 2,045 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: was thinking about this yesterday. but you have to also remember that Zahid beat Amine, who beat Lewis. could see them keeping Zahid at #2 You should have been thinking about PIAA yesterday! 1 Husker_Du reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana Peterson 13 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 Interestingly enough, it appears Hall put all that work in for the 1 seed, just to possibly see Valencia in the semis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,494 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 I'd love to see Hall face Zahid in the semis. Better there than the finals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu1979 558 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, Banana Peterson said: Interestingly enough, it appears Hall put all that work in for the 1 seed, just to possibly see Valencia in the semis. Without losing again Valencia should not fall below 3rd seed. He has 2 losses to Hall & Lewis. Lewis only has 1 loss to Amine and it was early (Cliff Keen Finals). Amine has 2 losses to Hall & Zahid. If Amine loses to Hall again in B10 finals and Zahid and Lewis win the rest of their matches (as I assumed in my 1st post) Amine would have 3 losses and the seeding should be as I stated even considering the ZV/DL/MA round robin. Now if Amine were to beat Hall in the B10 finals I am not sure what would happen with seeding. For that matter other unexpected results could still pop up during the rest of the season or in the conference tourneys that will throw a wrench into seeding. I noticed Lujan took a loss yesterday to Bastian from Utah Valley. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sublime607 139 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 I’m kinda pissed that I missed this match had Pryor engagements. The way Zahid preformed at the world trials led me to believe that widened the gap with Hall and now I’m scratching my head that he got pinned. Anyone who did see the match can you tell me what exactly happened? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,228 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, Sublime607 said: I’m kinda pissed that I missed this match had Pryor engagements. The way Zahid preformed at the world trials led me to believe that widened the gap with Hall and now I’m scratching my head that he got pinned. Anyone who did see the match can you tell me what exactly happened? SOmebody posted this in a different thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviator12 205 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, pish6969 said: Best weight class in the country hands down this year. Two champs and 7 other studs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I wouldn’t say hands down. 133 is gonna be dynamic as well. Man I wish Gross was part of this historical great weight class this year as well. Edited February 10, 2019 by Aviator12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pish6969 293 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 I wouldn’t say hands down. 133 is gonna be dynamic as well. Man I wish Gross was part of this historical great weight class this year as well.As good as 133 is, without a champ, no less 2 it doesn’t compareSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smitty11 18 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 What was the score before the pin? Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cradle1969 5 Report post Posted February 10, 2019 Valencia was up 6-4 at the beginning of the period. After the cradle (had Valencia gotten out of it) Lewis would have been up 8-6. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XiXiTiger 45 Report post Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) Lewis got the first takedown and rode ZV for a bit (2-0 Lewis). ZV escaped, took Lewis down and got a couple swipes (5-2 ZV). Lewis got a reversal (5-4 ZV) and ZV escaped right before the end of first (6-4 ZV). Zahid chose down in second. Lewis was riding ZV pretty well and had 1:20 or more of riding time before pin. Like Cradle said, it would have been 8-6 after the back points plus Lewis would have had riding time. Edited February 11, 2019 by XiXiTiger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCMO2 673 Report post Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) Being possibly the best cradler in the nation right now, and having one of the tightest cradles I've seen him get, pretty unlikely that Valencia was coming off his back. Edited February 11, 2019 by KCMO2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle 179 Report post Posted February 11, 2019 If they meet again, Valencia may rethink taking bottom. Hall rode him like a horse as well so he may be rethinking taking bottom at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobraves101905 138 Report post Posted February 11, 2019 Valencia has not shown the gas tank that he had for the 12 months leading up to the Final X. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,419 Report post Posted February 11, 2019 15 hours ago, gobraves101905 said: Valencia has not shown the gas tank that he had for the 12 months leading up to the Final X. Yeah he is not himself. It’s concerning this close to ncaas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobraves101905 138 Report post Posted February 12, 2019 7 hours ago, Housebuye said: Yeah he is not himself. It’s concerning this close to ncaas He looked terrible against Hall. He looked terrible when he bumped a weight against UNC. He was leading but looked terrible against Lewis in the first period. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites