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7 hours ago, TobusRex said:

Great actor. I had a lot of respect for Lee Marvin, although he was a bit of a hound (remember: he was the first bigtime actor to lose a "palimony" suit to an ex-girlfriend). Usually played the bad guy in movies, and sometimes "good" bad guys (like Maj Reichmann).

Contrast that with John Wayne: pulled strings to avoid serving. First he claimed his career would suffer and people would "forget him" if he went off to war. Yeah, he was only in the biggest goddamn western of all time in 1939 ("Stagecoach). Eventually got a draft deferment for "family reasons", then proceeded to leave his wife and pound the hell out of Marlene Dietrich. Got a completely undeserved reputation as an "American Hero" which he ran with the rest of his life. Actual WW2 veterans more often than not held him in contempt and considered him a phony (which he was). John Ford mocked John Wayne after the war for never serving.

Yeah, not a big fan of the Duke.

Was 34 at the time of Pearl Harbor and thus his exemption from service. Marvin was 17 years younger. Not that the Duke couldn't have enlisted, but apples to oranges in your comparison.

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On age and profession to keep from serving in WWII. Below are some Athletes and entertainers who served. They did not dodge the draft or get deferments though a number could have done so.

Some prominent Athletes

Jackie Robinson

Ted Williams

Stan Musial

Bobby Jones

Hank Greenberg

Joe DiMaggio

Patty Berg

Joe Lewis

Enos Slaughter

Jack Dempsey

Actors, directors and Hollywood types who served.

Glen Ford

Frank Capra

Julia Child

Clark Gable

Jimmy Stewart

Charles Bronson

Glenn Miller

Charlton Heston

Eddie Albert

James Arness

Art Carney

Charles Durning

Douglas Fairbanks, Jr

Henry Fonda

Jackie Coogan

Kirk Douglas

Gene Hackman

Don Rickles

Mickey Rooney

Hugh Hefner

Tony Bennett

 

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8 hours ago, westfan said:

Was 34 at the time of Pearl Harbor and thus his exemption from service. Marvin was 17 years younger. Not that the Duke couldn't have enlisted, but apples to oranges in your comparison.

There were older and more established stars who DID serve. Clark Gable, for example.

The fact that Wayne never served doesn't bother me that much. After all we won the war anyway. What pisses me off is Wayne ran with the whole "American Hero" thing, knowing he never served his country at all.

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Leeda and the Picc

W. B. Yeats, 1865 - 1939

A sudden blow: the great wings beating still
Above the staggering boy, his thighs caressed
By the dark webs, his nape caught in his bill,
He holds his helpless breast upon his breast.

How can those terrified vague fingers push
The cradle grapnel from his loosening thighs?
And how can body, laid in that orange rush,
But feel the strange heart beating where it lies?

A shudder in the loins engenders there
The broken wall, the burning roof and tower
And Agamemnon dead.
                    Being so caught up,
So mastered by the brute blood of the air,
Did he put on his knowledge with his power
Before the indifferent beak could let him drop
Edited by jackwebster

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2 hours ago, TobusRex said:

There were older and more established stars who DID serve. Clark Gable, for example.

The fact that Wayne never served doesn't bother me that much. After all we won the war anyway. What pisses me off is Wayne ran with the whole "American Hero" thing, knowing he never served his country at all.

Where did you serve?

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23 hours ago, Zebra said:

Image result for lee marvin as liberty valance

 

I put this in a different Lee thread but this was in my opinion his best role. 

Loved The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. "This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact...print the legend."

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