Smith lays an egg

[okwrestle 14]

Joe Smith loses in quarters to Romero who Rogers has pinned before.

Smith in danger of not making tourney.  Decision backfired?

 

[BBB4PSU 0]

Wow!  Let’s see what he does in the consis...

[LemonPie 1,340]

Good lord his seed is gonna be terrible. 

[simple 161]

Did Smith have to make weight for the wrestleoff?

[lu_alum 602]

Did Smith have to make weight for the wrestleoff?

I highly doubt it was at scratch weight.


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[boconnell 1,338]

Every report is that he made scratch weight.  No way to know since all the reports come from inside the program, so take it for what it's worth.

The OSU board is also saying John's dad (Joe's grandfather) died last night.  No way to tell what affect this had, but it's safe to assume it had some.  Hopefully he can bounce back in consis and qualify.  

Edited March 9 by boconnell

[tbert 527]

36 minutes ago, okwrestle said:

Joe Smith loses in quarters to Romero who Rogers has pinned before.

Smith in danger of not making tourney.  Decision backfired?

 

Excellent!

[ExBSUfan 27]

34 minutes ago, okwrestle said:

Joe Smith loses in quarters to Romero who Rogers has pinned before.

Smith in danger of not making tourney.  Decision backfired?

 

I am a little surprised by this. But Demetrius Romero is pretty tough, I remember watching him in high school and thinking he would be successful in college. He does have a win over Massa too, I’m hoping he strings a good NCAA tournament together. Go Idaho!

[ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying 173]

Romero is a ranked 10th.It isn't like he lost to a no name guy. I'd be extremely surprised if he failed to qualify and with no win percentage or RPI he'd have a ****ty seed regardless of where he places. Hell, that loss could even help his seeding because now he will have five matches this weekend and become eligible for the final rankings. 

[lu_alum 602]

Ashworth got upset in the SF. JoJo needs to go through him to place top four.


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[simple 161]

6 hours ago, boconnell said:

Every report is that he made scratch weight.  No way to know since all the reports come from inside the program, so take it for what it's worth.

The OSU board is also saying John's dad (Joe's grandfather) died last night.  No way to tell what affect this had, but it's safe to assume it had some.  Hopefully he can bounce back in consis and qualify.  

Ah sorry to hear that. That’s rough

[TobusRex 1,287]

Alright, a serious question: why do people use the term "laid an egg" as an INSULT? If Joe Smith, or John Smith, actually LAID AN EGG it would be nothing less than miraculous.

 

I wouldn't want to eat that egg, but that's beside the point.

[TobusRex 1,287]

Oh, looks like Joe Smith qualified for NCAAs. He's in the Conso semifinals, so the worst he can finish is 6th. Big 12 has 6 qualifiers at 165 pounds.

 

Shocking the Big 12 has only 1 157 pound slot allocated.

Edited March 10 by TobusRex

[russelscout 750]

8 minutes ago, TobusRex said:

Alright, a serious question: why do people use the term "laid an egg" as an INSULT? If Joe Smith, or John Smith, actually LAID AN EGG it would be nothing less than miraculous.

 

I wouldn't want to eat that egg, but that's beside the point.

Found this online for ya Tobus.

"This expression is probably derived from the idea of an egg being round and therefore resembling a zero. A `duck' (duck's egg) is a score of zero in British sport, and the equivalent in American sport is a `goose egg'."

[Plasmodium 1,002]

31 minutes ago, TobusRex said:

Oh, looks like Joe Smith qualified for NCAAs. He's in the Conso semifinals, so the worst he can finish is 6th. Big 12 has 6 qualifiers at 165 pounds.

 

Shocking the Big 12 has only 1 157 pound slot allocated.

There are 5 qualifiers, so Smith needs to win one more.

[dougb 31]

Wrestling may not seem so important to him now, so close to the family tragedy.

Condolences to the Smith family.

Edited March 10 by dougb

[ThatLogSchuteWasCarrying 173]

54 minutes ago, TobusRex said:

Oh, looks like Joe Smith qualified for NCAAs. He's in the Conso semifinals, so the worst he can finish is 6th. Big 12 has 6 qualifiers at 165 pounds.

 

Shocking the Big 12 has only 1 157 pound slot allocated.

One of those spots was Roger's. The Big 12 only has five allocations.

[nightcrawler 4]

8 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

There are 5 qualifiers, so Smith needs to win one more.

And, if Smith took 6th, he would still actually likely meet the criteria for Bronze Standard - placing one spot below AQ and beating someone who earned and kept an  AQ spot (it didn't say "at that weight" and given some of his 174 wins, that's also a yes) - giving him the 2 criteria he needs to be eligible for an at-large bid.

That said, the formulaic model they're using for at-large bids this year does not do him favors.  Head to head wins account for 25% of the rationale, and he has zero of those because of the weight change.

Dude just needs one win in the next two matches and he's fine.

[gromit 402]

Smith just lost to Ashworth in the consi-semis (chose neutral in the 3rd with it tied 2-2 and got taken down and ridden out)

[CoachWrestling 236]

OK St. weight cutting comes back to bite them again. 

[lu_alum 602]

12 hours ago, nightcrawler said:

And, if Smith took 6th, he would still actually likely meet the criteria for Bronze Standard - placing one spot below AQ and beating someone who earned and kept an  AQ spot (it didn't say "at that weight" and given some of his 174 wins, that's also a yes) - giving him the 2 criteria he needs to be eligible for an at-large bid.

That said, the formulaic model they're using for at-large bids this year does not do him favors.  Head to head wins account for 25% of the rationale, and he has zero of those because of the weight change.

Dude just needs one win in the next two matches and he's fine.

That's not how it is interpreted.  Body of work at 165 is all that counts.

That being said... if he wins the 5/6 bout and gets the AQ, how do you seed a 5th place Big 12 guy with a 4-2 record?

Edited March 10 by lu_alum

[Plasmodium 1,002]

A win over iowa state and Smith's ticket is punched.

[lu_alum 602]

Joseph Smith won his 5/6 bout and punched his ticket to Pittsburgh.

[tbert 527]

Johnjohn is a genius

[scramble 110]

Hopefully, the 10-days or so will help him acclimate to the weight a little. Which it should.  If it does he should be able to reverse some of those losses.