BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, VakAttack said: So, trust the clock, but also, DON'T trust the clock. So you're saying the riding time that Spencer received was wrong because you dont trust the clock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,470 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, BigTenFanboy said: Your forgetting to count the addtional seconds for the reverse. No. You said 2 seconds the wrong way. 2+2=4 +4=8. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 2,600 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, BigTenFanboy said: So you're saying the riding time that Spencer received was wrong because you dont trust the clock. I'm saying you either trust the clock and all the decisions, or you don't. You can't have it both ways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zebra 545 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 Much anger in this thread. Yoda is not pleased with the evidence of the dark side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, gimpeltf said: No. You said 2 seconds the wrong way. 2+2=4 +4=8. clock time 1:18 TD 1:17 vs 1:19 - Clock goes the wrong way 1:16 vs 1:20 - Clock keeps going the wrong way 1:15 vs 1:21 - Clock gets reversed. 1:14 vs 1:20 Clock going in right direction what is 20 - 14 good sir? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, VakAttack said: I'm saying you either trust the clock and all the decisions, or you don't. You can't have it both ways. trust the clock. When the person running the clock makes an error which happened here you fix the error. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,470 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, BigTenFanboy said: clock time 1:18 TD 1:17 vs 1:19 - Clock goes the wrong way 1:16 vs 1:20 - Clock keeps going the wrong way 1:15 vs 1:21 - Clock gets reversed. 1:14 vs 1:20 Clock going in right direction what is 20 - 14 good sir? I don't know. I was quoting YOU. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, gimpeltf said: I don't know. I was quoting YOU. You quoted me and said i was wrong. Clearly I was right. Watch the video of the link provided. Watch the clocks. And you dont know what 20-14 is? Edited March 11, 2019 by BigTenFanboy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Molsen 123 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 Guys, lets just be thankful BTFB is not a college ref. He would have done anything in his power to keep Lee out of the match. Probably would have some how found a way to give cenzo a win too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, Molsen said: Guys, lets just be thankful BTFB is not a college ref. He would have done anything in his power to keep Lee out of the match. Probably would have some how found a way to give cenzo a win too. Cenzo got schooled. Lee did not earn the riding time based on actually riding. Theres a difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Molsen 123 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, BigTenFanboy said: Cenzo got schooled. Lee did not earn the riding time based on actually riding. Theres a difference. Lee lost in overtime. Cenzo got schooled. Thats the difference. Lee got riding time. You're arguing just to argue. Have fun with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, Molsen said: Lee lost in overtime. Cenzo got schooled. Thats the difference. Lee got riding time. You're arguing just to argue. Have fun with that. He wrongfully earned riding time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,470 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, BigTenFanboy said: You quoted me and said i was wrong. Clearly I was right. Watch the video of the link provided. Watch the clocks. Wow- you're amazing. You WERE wrong. You said 2 seconds. I thought it was more like 3 but I was only commenting on what you said. And to what actually happened- the 4 second claim as to delayed td call is purely your opinion. I think it should have been a few seconds later when the whizzer lost power. Now the call I'm surprised nobody has mentioned is Seb's escape at around 1 minute left. Looks like they were completely out of the cylinder before the call. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,759 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, gimpeltf said: Wow- you're amazing. You WERE wrong. You said 2 seconds. I thought it was more like 3 but I was only commenting on what you said. And to what actually happened- the 4 second claim as to delayed td call is purely your opinion. I think it should have been a few seconds later when the whizzer lost power. Now the call I'm surprised nobody has mentioned is Seb's escape at around 1 minute left. Looks like they were completely out of the cylinder before the call. I lwas wondering when someone would get around to that. I really ike where this is headed. Edited March 11, 2019 by TBar1977 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 2,600 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 Wow- you're amazing. You WERE wrong. You said 2 seconds. I thought it was more like 3 but I was only commenting on what you said. And to what actually happened- the 4 second claim as to delayed td call is purely your opinion. I think it should have been a few seconds later when the whizzer lost power. Now the call I'm surprised nobody has mentioned is Seb's escape at around 1 minute left. Looks like they were completely out of the cylinder before the call.You're stealing my next move. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 2,600 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 trust the clock. When the person running the clock makes an error which happened here you fix the error.But you haven't even established that the riding time was correct. In fact, i went back and checked it earlier for you. You're welcome. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, VakAttack said: But you haven't even established that the riding time was correct. In fact, i went back and checked it earlier for you. You're welcome. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk you haven't provided the actual start and stop times of those riding times. Edited March 11, 2019 by BigTenFanboy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 2,600 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 you haven't provided the actual start and stop times of those riding times. I gave you the time stamps in this very important debate. You have access to the video. It's not my fault you're lazy.Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, VakAttack said: I gave you the time stamps in this very important debate. You have access to the video. It's not my fault you're lazy. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk The escape came at 1:35 not 1:36 or 1:37 like you suggest. :59 seconds of riding time good sir. 1 HurricaneWrestling2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HurricaneWrestling2 579 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 That's what I like about BTF. Always quick to admit an error and never belabors a point. 3 Griff the BullRam, tommytechnique and jchapman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpchillin 114 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, gimpeltf said: Wow- you're amazing. You WERE wrong. You said 2 seconds. I thought it was more like 3 but I was only commenting on what you said. And to what actually happened- the 4 second claim as to delayed td call is purely your opinion. I think it should have been a few seconds later when the whizzer lost power. Now the call I'm surprised nobody has mentioned is Seb's escape at around 1 minute left. Looks like they were completely out of the cylinder before the call. Yeah, I saw that picture somewhere, both wrestlers completely out of the cylinder. It’s amazing in BTFB’s second by second breakdown of the video that this was missed. 1 jchapman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Molsen 123 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 The real question isnt did Lee get riding time or not. The real questions are is he back? Half back? Or never was gone, but has now figured out Rivera? Since the first match this year was pretty decisive, where as this one was extremely close. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Mpchillin said: Yeah, I saw that picture somewhere, both wrestlers completely out of the cylinder. It’s amazing in BTFB’s second by second breakdown of the video that this was missed. As per your request. Rivera is out, and Lee's right foot still in the cylinder. As Lee fully goes out, Rivera back in bounds. Edited March 11, 2019 by BigTenFanboy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpchillin 114 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, BigTenFanboy said: As per your request. Rivera is out, and Lee's right foot still in the cylinder. As Lee fully goes out, Rivera back in bounds. I stand corrected, see how easy that is to admit when you're wrong. Your pettiness against Iowa is a bit ridiculous and childish. Honest question, would you be this worked up if it were to happen to any other team's wrestler? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTenFanboy 1,710 Report post Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mpchillin said: I stand corrected, see how easy that is to admit when you're wrong. Your pettiness against Iowa is a bit ridiculous and childish. Honest question, would you be this worked up if it were to happen to any other team's wrestler? I acknowledged the additional 1 second of riding time that Vak pointed out. And if there was a huge of a stink regarding the result saying their wrestler got screwed when he infact didnt, then yes. Team has nothing to do with it. Like I've said in the past, no beef with Iowa. I like Iowa just fine. Not a fan of Tom Brands, but this has nothing to do with Brands. Loved Gable Loved Zalesky Loved Sammy Brooks Loved Cory Clark Loved the Zadicks Loved Lincoln Mc Edited March 11, 2019 by BigTenFanboy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites