NCAA Qualifiers By State

[tommytechnique 64]

I have to agree somewhat. Staying close to home has it's advantages though. Unfortunately, most of the top CA kids leave the state, and far away at that. It's sad for wrestling in general that the biggest state in the country has 3 D1 schools, and Stanford ain't that easy to get into.

 

I just see D1 wrestling dwindling and dwindling and it's sad for our sport.

if stanford were easy to get into- 6-16 dual record and a combined 10-18 in the conference tourney- why would you?

 

Forbes rates it as its #3 school overall. No tuition if you're family makes under 100k, no room and board if they make less than 60k. While it seems they may be struggling currently, they have produced AA's in the past ten years and Stanford has shown dedication to their Athletic Department.

[bspit1980 0]

For GimpelTf: you left out Ramon Santiago at 165 and Nick Vetterlein at 184

[bspit1980 0]

oops, forgot Kevin Innis from BU at hwt.

[Eiwaman 0]

52 for PA I believe is the correct count. 22 qualifiers are at out of state schools.

Devon Lotito (Cal Poly)

Joe Spisak (Virginia)

Jon Fausey (Virginia)

Mike McMullan (Northwestern)

Jordan Oliver (Oklahoma State)

Jimmy Sheptock (Maryland)

Mike Evans (Iowa)

Caleb Kolb (Nebraska)

Tony Dallago (Illinois)

Walter Peppelman (Harvard)

Nathan Pennesi (West Virginia)

Matt Snyder (Virginia)

Jake O'Hara (Columbia)

Zack Strickland (Appalachian State)

Evan Henderson (North Carolina)

Mike Salopek (Virginia)

Geoff Alexander (Maryland)

Anthony Elias (Davidson)

John Michael Staudenmayer (North Carolina)

Mike Ottinger (Central Michigan)

Steve Bosak (Cornell)

Mackenzie McGuire (Kent State)

[Lammergeier 4]

I have to agree somewhat. Staying close to home has it's advantages though. Unfortunately, most of the top CA kids leave the state, and far away at that. It's sad for wrestling in general that the biggest state in the country has 3 D1 schools, and Stanford ain't that easy to get into.

 

I just see D1 wrestling dwindling and dwindling and it's sad for our sport.

if stanford were easy to get into- 6-16 dual record and a combined 10-18 in the conference tourney- why would you?

 

Forbes rates it as its #3 school overall. No tuition if you're family makes under 100k, no room and board if they make less than 60k. While it seems they may be struggling currently, they have produced AA's in the past ten years and Stanford has shown dedication to their Athletic Department.

 

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Yeah. Cornercoach is either trolling or a complete jagoff. Stanford finished #11 and #16 in the nation in wrestling the past two years and has been the best overall D1 program for something like 20 years running. Not to mention its academic standing and location. Cornercoach is a Prop 48 kid, obvy.

[HurricaneWrestling 1,121]

Earl does a nice job of breaking down the NCAA qualifiers by state - as well as by college, alphabetically, and class. He also lists the 1x, 2x, 3x and 4x qualifiers. Link is: http://d1wrestling.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7277

 

Based on his data, I came up with the following:

 

PA - 52 - 15.8%

OH - 32 - 9.7%

NJ - 24 - 7.3%

NY - 23 - 7.0%

CA - 17 - 5.2%

IL - 17 - 5.2%

MI - 16 - 4.8%

IA - 15 - 4.5%

MO - 13 - 3.9%

CO - 10 - 3.0%

MN - 10 - 3.0%

VA - 8 - 2.4%

WI - 8 - 2.4%

FL - 7 - 2.1%

MD - 7 - 2.1%

WA - 7 - 2.1%

IN - 6 - 1.8%

UT - 6 - 1.8%

GA - 5 - 1.5%

NC - 5 - 1.5%

KS - 4 - 1.2%

OK - 4 - 1.2%

OR - 4 - 1.2%

MT - 3 - 0.9%

TX - 3 - 0.9%

DE - 2 - 0.6%

ID - 2 - 0.6%

LA - 2 - 0.6%

MA - 2 - 0.6%

SD - 2 - 0.6%

WY - 2 - 0.6%

AL - 1 - 0.3%

AZ - 1 - 0.3%

CT - 1 - 0.3%

HI - 1 - 0.3%

KY - 1 - 0.3%

ND - 1 - 0.3%

NM - 1 - 0.3%

TN - 1 - 0.3%

VT - 1 - 0.3%

WV - 1 - 0.3%

RUS - 1 - 0.3%

MGL - 1 - 0.3%

AK - 0 -

AR - 0 -

ME - 0 -

MS - 0 -

NE - 0 -

NV - 0 -

NH - 0 -

RI - 0 -

SC - 0 -

[jstock 120]

Having that many in state schools absolutely helps in getting the numbers up. In state tuition is one huge factor, plus the proximity to home. Most kids aren't getting much money, so the financial aspect is huge.

Look at the previous posts. When you break out PA kids that stay in state, to your point I guess PA leads the list with 30 qualifiers. If you break out the 22 PA kids that wrestle out of state, that no would put PA in 4th. Not all the OH, NJ and NY kids stay in state.

PA in State- 30

All OH-32

All NJ- 24

All NY- 23

PA out of State- 22

[Jefe 8]

I have to agree somewhat. Staying close to home has it's advantages though. Unfortunately, most of the top CA kids leave the state, and far away at that. It's sad for wrestling in general that the biggest state in the country has 3 D1 schools, and Stanford ain't that easy to get into.

 

I just see D1 wrestling dwindling and dwindling and it's sad for our sport.

if stanford were easy to get into- 6-16 dual record and a combined 10-18 in the conference tourney- why would you?

 

Yes, of course! If only Stanford doubled or tripled its acceptance rate, then nobody would want to go there.

[NJWC 305]

Where's the guy that was beating his chest that Iowa is the 2nd best state, and it's not even close? :lol:

[IRTYTKY 67]

Where's the guy that was beating his chest that Iowa is the 2nd best state, and it's not even close? :lol:

 

It will be interesting to see if Iowa moves up the list if we figure up the team points by state after the tournament.

[epek 3]

Just a simple shout out for a small demographic in Utah producing the head coach of the new dynasty in Penn State. And the projected winner of the BEST COLLEGE WRESTLER ever.... and... the projected (by me) champion of 20% of the 2013 NCAA Champions.

[TBar1977 3,176]

Earl does a nice job of breaking down the NCAA qualifiers by state - as well as by college, alphabetically, and class. He also lists the 1x, 2x, 3x and 4x qualifiers. Link is: http://d1wrestling.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=7277

 

Based on his data, I came up with the following:

 

PA - 52 - 15.8%

OH - 32 - 9.7%

NJ - 24 - 7.3%

NY - 23 - 7.0%

CA - 17 - 5.2%

IL - 17 - 5.2%

MI - 16 - 4.8%

IA - 15 - 4.5%

MO - 13 - 3.9%

CO - 10 - 3.0%

MN - 10 - 3.0%

VA - 8 - 2.4%

WI - 8 - 2.4%

FL - 7 - 2.1%

MD - 7 - 2.1%

WA - 7 - 2.1%

IN - 6 - 1.8%

UT - 6 - 1.8%

GA - 5 - 1.5%

NC - 5 - 1.5%

KS - 4 - 1.2%

OK - 4 - 1.2%

OR - 4 - 1.2%

MT - 3 - 0.9%

TX - 3 - 0.9%

DE - 2 - 0.6%

ID - 2 - 0.6%

LA - 2 - 0.6%

MA - 2 - 0.6%

SD - 2 - 0.6%

WY - 2 - 0.6%

AL - 1 - 0.3%

AZ - 1 - 0.3%

CT - 1 - 0.3%

HI - 1 - 0.3%

KY - 1 - 0.3%

ND - 1 - 0.3%

NM - 1 - 0.3%

TN - 1 - 0.3%

VT - 1 - 0.3%

WV - 1 - 0.3%

RUS - 1 - 0.3%

MGL - 1 - 0.3%

AK - 0 -

MS - 0 -

NE - 0 -

NV - 0 -

NH - 0 -

RI - 0 -

SC - 0 -

 

 

PA is 1rst, and the next three states all border on PA. These top four states represent 40% of all the qualifiers and probably even more of the seeded wrestlers. It is obvious that Cael has a huge advantage recruiting in this great talent pool.

[NJWC 305]

It's nice not having to travel much at all to face the best talent in the country, from the youth level on up.

[IRTYTKY 67]

It's nice not having to travel much at all to face the best talent in the country, from the youth level on up.

 

Except for next weekend

[NJWC 305]

I'll pass on nationals being held in no man's land, in return for year round access to elite level competition.

Just kidding for those from the midwest.

[zeeb 0]

Where's the guy that was beating his chest that Iowa is the 2nd best state, and it's not even close? :lol:

 

Per capita I'm pretty sure Iowa is on top. Pennsylvania just qualified the entire population of Des Moines.

[NJWC 305]

The whole "per capita" argument is weak. If you're arguing state vs state, it is what it is. That's why it's harder to win a state title in some states vs others.

Also, in states like NJ that have huge urban populations, there are large segments of the population that contribute little in terms of the state's wrestling.

[mcm2 0]

Where's the guy that was beating his chest that Iowa is the 2nd best state, and it's not even close? :lol:

Qualifiers may not be close, but AA's is always the best measuring stick. As an NJ fan, we've been slipping the past couple years . We've done consistently well with champs, but had only 4 AA's last year including Russell/Molinaro and will be hard pressed to reach 4-5 this year. Probably just hit a soft patch in talent, although it sure doesn't help that Rutgers/Rider don't carry the weight too often.

[Mokoma 39]

The whole "per capita" argument is weak. If you're arguing state vs state, it is what it is. That's why it's harder to win a state title in some states vs others.

Also, in states like NJ that have huge urban populations, there are large segments of the population that contribute little in terms of the state's wrestling.

 

As if Philadelphia has contributed to PA over the years.

 

So NJ has a few more qualifiers this year than Iowa. Who cares. I still take Iowa over time. The proof is in the pudding in All Americans and National Champions.

[NJWC 305]

You're absolutely right, and NJ routinely produces more All Americans and National Champs than Iowa. Thanks for confirming that.

[DoubleOvers 0]

The whole "per capita" argument is weak. If you're arguing state vs state, it is what it is. That's why it's harder to win a state title in some states vs others.

Also, in states like NJ that have huge urban populations, there are large segments of the population that contribute little in terms of the state's wrestling.

 

Firstly, Penn has some great wrestler, but I'm baffled at how you can logically make this statement? More kids = more kids wrestling = more top talent.

 

Wrestling top talent on a weekly basis produces results. Most parents won't drive their kids an hour for a tournament EVERY weekend. But they would if it were 15-20 minutes. And obviously there are the dedicated parents who will but for the average wrestler they aren't going to consistently see the talent that someone in a more populated area would.

[madcat11 321]

The whole "per capita" argument is weak. If you're arguing state vs state, it is what it is. That's why it's harder to win a state title in some states vs others.

Also, in states like NJ that have huge urban populations, there are large segments of the population that contribute little in terms of the state's wrestling.

 

Regardless of how it plays into the which state is better game, per capita better illustrates how wrestling fits into a state's culture.

 

CA - 17 / 38 million

IA - 15 / 3 million

 

One of 'em is a rasslin' state.

[madcat11 321]

And obviously there are the dedicated parents who will but for the average wrestler they aren't going to consistently see the talent that someone in a more populated area would.

 

And then there are those whose Dads are pilots...

[The_Education 24]

PA is 1rst, and the next three states all border on PA. These top four states represent 40% of all the qualifiers and probably even more of the seeded wrestlers. It is obvious that Cael has a huge advantage recruiting in this great talent pool.

 

Cael's move to PSU was smart in two important ways.

 

First, he left the Big 12 for the Big 10, which was a good move. The Big 10 is more financially sound, and unlike the Big 12, every school has wrestling. In fact, the Big 12's most influential school -- Texas -- doesn't have wrestling. So basically he moved to a stronger conference that takes wrestling more seriously.

 

Second, he left a school that was second-best option for wrestlers in Iowa to a school that is the best option for wrestlers in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania has a lot more talent than Iowa, and it's close to great wrestling states like Ohio, New York, and New Jersey. From a recruiting standpoint, he couldn't have picked a better school.

[TLS62pa 32]

The whole "per capita" argument is weak. If you're arguing state vs state, it is what it is. That's why it's harder to win a state title in some states vs others.

Also, in states like NJ that have huge urban populations, there are large segments of the population that contribute little in terms of the state's wrestling.

 

As if Philadelphia has contributed to PA over the years.

 

So NJ has a few more qualifiers this year than Iowa. Who cares. I still take Iowa over time. The proof is in the pudding in All Americans and National Champions.

 

Philadelphia itself hasn't really given to the competition in the state. The WPIAL is amazing, but the city of Pittsburgh itself (District 8) hasn't lent much to competition either.

 

On the same token, wrestling generally isn't popular in major cities.