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Senator Birch Bayh Title IX author died today at 91

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32 minutes ago, Zebra said:

Not hating anybody but hate that law. 

Read a book recently about the history of women in this country. It changed my mind a lot on title IX. I think it's an important law. Wrestling needs to work to maintain its relevance, not be a drain on athletic programs, and find ways to monetize. 

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The problem isn't Title IX it is how athletic departments decide to use it to cut their budgets by eliminating non-revenue sports. Some schools took it as not adding to women's opportunities but as a chance to axe Baseball, Wrestling, Men's Gymnastics, etc. 

 

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It's interesting that the college admission scam exposed,  the only athletes scamming the system are females; they could scam the system because necessary quotas have to be met to offset the number of males in the athletic dept. There isn't a male-only team's coach in the country who doesn't know what he's getting; girls don't need any experience to make some of these teams (in name only).

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1 minute ago, fullnelson said:

They are using the system, which calls for equal numbers of the sexes, to falsely present their daughters as athletes; yes there is a connection.

I can see they are gaming the system, just being funny.

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1 hour ago, spladle said:

Title IX isn't wrestling's enemy.  This has been discussed ad nauseum.

Title IX is the enemy but only because administrations won’t use the other methods to satisfy it.

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If a coach defrauds an admissions committee, how is that the fault of Title 9?

Now... if the complaint is that women don’t care about sports as much as men, that complaint is going nowhere. Women subsidize college sports just like men do.

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4 hours ago, JeanGuy said:

The problem isn't Title IX it is how athletic departments decide to use it to cut their budgets by eliminating non-revenue sports. Some schools took it as not adding to women's opportunities but as a chance to axe Baseball, Wrestling, Men's Gymnastics, etc. 

 

I was going to write basically this exact post. The law is a really good law. The practices to be in compliance with the law are not at all within the spirit of it. 

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Only two Americans are responsible for authoring multiple constitutional amendments. The obvious name that comes to mind for most people is James Madison. The other was Indiana Senator Birch Bayh. who died earlier today. He will be most remembered for pushing through the 25th (presidential succession) and 26th Amendments (lowering the voting age to 18). He also played a key role in enacting Title IX but fell short in his quest to pass the Equal Rights Amendment and abolish the Electoral College.

Bayh also played a lead role in opposing Richard Nixon's nominations of Clement Haynsworth and G. Harrold Carswell to the Supreme Court. To the surprise of many at the time, both men failed to get confirmed. Joining forces with the AFL-CIO and the NAACP, Bayh led the coalition in the Senate against the nominees.

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2 hours ago, potentiallydangerous said:

I heard Birch Bayh speak when I was in college during the Vietnam war. He was a typical lying phony who used virtue signaling to distract from his loyalty to corporate sovereignty.

What is "corporate sovereignty"?

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From a news source:

With a remarkable record of achievement in the Senate, Bayh is best known as "the father of Title IX" - the measure that barred sex discrimination in schools in both academics and athletics. It led to a revolution in sports as girls and women were given athletic opportunities in high schools and colleges that in many places had previously existed only for males.

"I thought that of all the areas of discrimination against women, the thing that had the greatest detrimental impact was not letting them have an education. If you give an education to a man or woman, or to a boy or girl, they have the freedom to do what they want in life," Bayh told the Indianapolis Star in 2012.

Bayh was the first man since the United States' 18th-century founding fathers to author two ratified amendments to the Constitution.

The 26th Amendment, proposed and speedily ratified in 1971, lowered the U.S. voting age from 21 to 18. It was adopted during the Vietnam War era amid criticism that it was incongruous for a nation to deem 18-year-olds too young to cast ballots but old enough to be drafted into war.

The 25th Amendment, proposed in 1965 and ratified in 1967, came in the wake of the 1963 assassination of President John Kennedy and the serious illnesses suffered in office by his predecessor, President Dwight Eisenhower.

It set out an orderly transition of power in the event of the death or disability of a president, and spelled out a method for choosing a vice president when a vacancy occurs in that office. It guided the procedures used after the resignations of Vice President Spiro Agnew in 1973 in a corruption scandal and President Richard Nixon in 1974 in the Watergate scandal.

It also provided the procedures for passing presidential responsibilities temporarily to the vice president, as Reagan did with Vice President George H.W. Bush after undergoing surgery in the 1980s.

Before Title IX, girls and women were routinely denied equal opportunities under the law in academics and sports - often blocked from medical and law schools and engineering programs and largely ignored in organized athletics.

The ascent of women and girls in all academic disciplines and in participation in scholastic and collegiate sports since 1972 - all the way to the many female American Olympic champions - stems directly from the simple, one-sentence measure.

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You know, like when politicians are bribed by multinational corporations and pass legislation that adversely affects The People.  An extreme example which post dates Birch Bayh's career would be the Trans Pacific Partnership which would have been shoved down our throats except for a few twists of fate. Bayh was that type of sell out politician. Just because he died doesn't make him a saint suddenly. 

 

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3 minutes ago, potentiallydangerous said:

You know, like when politicians are bribed by multinational corporations and pass legislation that adversely affects The People.  An extreme example which post dates Birch Bayh's career would be the Trans Pacific Partnership which would have been shoved down our throats except for a few twists of fate. Bayh was that type of sell out politician. Just because he died doesn't make him a saint suddenly. 

 

I'll just move along.

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