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Iowa really got lucky with how the brackets fell out. 

Stoll has a relatively easy path to AA, considering his terrible (for him) season leading to his terrible seed. 

First, he has Jordan Wood. Stoll is an underdog here, but not a huge one. A win puts Stoll against Elam or Voss, both of whom he was ranked ahead of for most of the season. A win there likely matches him up with Conan Jennings becuase Jennings always beat Parris (#5 seed, what should be the toughwst match so far). Stoll is 2-0 vs Jennings, both last season, he pinned him at Big10s and beat him 8-2 earlier in the season.

That would put Stoll in the semis. 

On the backside, he might have to beat Parris which would be tough, but there is a path to AA. Parris being the 5 seed really helped Stoll with the draw. 

Summary: Stoll only has to win 1 upset to make the semis lost likely. Jordan wood, round 1. Even a loss there gives him a path to AA.

 

 

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Opinions please on Tariq Wilson vs. Nick Suriano.  Of course.....Tariq had to get by Lizak first. 

 

Yikes!  A tough draw for Tariq...imo.

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2 hours ago, Banana Peterson said:

A #29 seed never existed before this year.

Why did the NCAA decide to match up pigtail matches with the #1 seed anyway? Was it supposed to be a reward for the top seeds' teams in scoring?

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35 minutes ago, pamela said:

Why did the NCAA decide to match up pigtail matches with the #1 seed anyway? Was it supposed to be a reward for the top seeds' teams in scoring?

That's how the brackets work.  In a full bracket the top seed always wrestles the lowest seed in the first round, the #2 wrestles the second lowest seed, etc.

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Just now, KCMO2 said:

That's how brackets work.  In a full bracket, the top seed always wrestles the lowest seed in the first round

Got it... for some reason I thought the pigtails used to be randomly placed with byes for the top seed.

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4 hours ago, stp said:

   When was the last time an unseeded wrestler beat a #4 seed?  

Penn State wrestler James English was not seeded during the 2014 NCAA wrestling championships, yet beat Kendric Maple #4 seed (also former 2013 champ) to take 7th during the consi's.

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16 minutes ago, Marcus Cisero said:

Penn State wrestler James English was not seeded during the 2014 NCAA wrestling championships, yet beat Kendric Maple #4 seed (also former 2013 champ) to take 7th during the consi's.

There have been numerous top-four seeds that have lost their opening bouts.  Mack Lewnes went 0-2 as the #1 at 165 in 2009.  Greg Jones lost his opener as the #1 at 174 in 2003, eventually losing in R3 of consolations.  

In English's situation, brackets were randomly drawn after the seeded wrestlers were bracketed.  English was bracketed against the #12 in the opening round.  Maple was a shell of his champion self as the #4 at 149 as a senior.

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10 minutes ago, lu_alum said:

There have been numerous top-four seeds that have lost their opening bouts.  Mack Lewnes went 0-2 as the #1 at 165 in 2009.  Greg Jones lost his opener as the #1 at 174 in 2003, eventually losing in R3 of consolations.  

In English's situation, brackets were randomly drawn after the seeded wrestlers were bracketed.  English was bracketed against the #12 in the opening round.  Maple was a shell of his champion self as the #4 at 149 as a senior.

STP asked "When was the last time an unseeded wrestler beat a #4 seed? " ....so I answered his question.

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18 hours ago, Marcus Cisero said:

STP asked "When was the last time an unseeded wrestler beat a #4 seed? " ....so I answered his question.

And you answered incorrectly...  Since English accomplished his feel-good story...

  • In 2017, "Little Nicky" MFF as the #3 in the opening round at 125
  • In 2016, Ethan Ramos lost as the #4 in the opening round at 174
  • In 2015, John Eblen lost as the #4 seed in the opening round at 174
  • In 2015, Michael Moreno lost as the #2 seed in the opening round at 165
  • In 2015, Bobby Telford lost as the #3 seed in the opening round at 285

These are just opening round losses.  There are numerous instances when top-four guys lose to the non-seeded wrestlers during the tourney - particularly in the consolations.

  • In 2018, Kaid Brock lost as the #4 in the QF
  • In 2018, Kollin Moore got pinned as the #1 in the QF
  • In 2018, Kollin Moore got beat as the #1 in the 3/4 bout
  • In 2017, Anthony Collica lost at the #2 in R2 of the consolations at 149
  • In 2017, John Epperly lost as the #4 in the R12 at 174
  • In 2015, Nahshon Garrett lost as the #2 in round 2 at 125
  • In 2015, Joey Dance lost as the #3 in the R12 at 125
  • In 2015, Johnni DiJulius lost as the #4 in cons R3 at 133
  • In 2015, Dylan Ness lost as the #3 in the cons SF at 149

And all this happened AFTER James English beat #4 Kendric Maple in the 2014 7/8 bout at 149.

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Stoll walks into a burger joint, orders a burger, pulls out his gun shoots the waiter and leaves.  The waiter looks up and says what the hell is wrong with you?  And Stoll says:  "I read that I'm supposed to shoot and leave.

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4 minutes ago, Dr. Novak said:

Stoll walks into a burger joint, orders a burger, pulls out his gun shoots the waiter and leaves.  The waiter looks up and says what the hell is wrong with you?  And Stoll says:  "I read that I'm supposed to shoot and leave.

sorry Dr Novak, I know you're trying to create some humor (which is definitely needed in this particular forum) but in today's day and age, it might be better to choose a different scenario.

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