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23 minutes ago, Underhook said:

The only real drawback I’ve found to watching wrestling stoned is when you and your buddy catch yourself going down a 20 minute rabbit hole debating whether the Russian or the underhook is a more effective offensive tie up, and you wind up missing some of the action.

Now as far as actually wrestling goes, that’s a different story ;)

DUDE< why couldn't I have more teammates like you in college? Instead I was public enemy #1 for having any fun at all. ****ing dorks. 

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32 minutes ago, DrStrange said:

you must be a) really important, so much so that you have the unending attention of the federal agents, or b) paranoid from some really good weed, because you sound insane. Stoner. 

No, on both counts.

Just as something as silly as a jaywalking citation can escalate to felony assault - the interaction with Federal Law Enforcement can quickly escalate. Get stopped and are pissed about it? "Attitude problem" that can get  you hurt as well a charged with "resisting". Touch the officer? Add in assault and battery. Then you start in on "rights" - and discover your time in a holding cell goes for a couple days as paperwork is "lost", maybe you are transferred to another facility - later in the evening way after food is no longer available. Then, in the morning you are transferred again, missing breakfast.

As I said - piss off the wrong officer and you end up with real problems. No State legalization trumps Federal law no matter how much you may want it to do so.

The laws should be equal across the nation. Reality is that they are not. Enforcement is not equal either which is why you see some in prison for years while another stopped with the same amount is let go with no problem.

 

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DUDE

You must not have wrestled JUCO. 3/4 of my team was high 3/4 of the time. Even the Mormons.

 

EDIT: Oh, and spare me the “that’s why they went to junior college, because of the weed” schtick. I met way more stoners after transferring to the big state school.

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3 hours ago, WillieBoy said:

No, on both counts.

Just as something as silly as a jaywalking citation can escalate to felony assault - the interaction with Federal Law Enforcement can quickly escalate. Get stopped and are pissed about it? "Attitude problem" that can get  you hurt as well a charged with "resisting". Touch the officer? Add in assault and battery. Then you start in on "rights" - and discover your time in a holding cell goes for a couple days as paperwork is "lost", maybe you are transferred to another facility - later in the evening way after food is no longer available. Then, in the morning you are transferred again, missing breakfast.

As I said - piss off the wrong officer and you end up with real problems. No State legalization trumps Federal law no matter how much you may want it to do so.

The laws should be equal across the nation. Reality is that they are not. Enforcement is not equal either which is why you see some in prison for years while another stopped with the same amount is let go with no problem.

 

Starting to wonder if you work for big pharma.

Edited by Sublime607

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About a year after I retired, I went to work in  a dispensary in Colorado for 8 months.  The plan was I would learn to grow it commercially, and my business partner would provide the grow facility and financial backing to try a new business adventure.  We were banking on Oklahoma legalizing cannabis and we planned on taking advantage of that business opportunity.  He passed away before I even came back, but meanwhile I picked up priceless experience in the industry.  I see by your comments that I feel different than most of you.  I know there are plenty of issues with cannabis.  There are plenty of benefits too.  Most noteworthy from my dispensary days, were the PTSD guys.  I also saw customers/patients with chronic pain and fibromyalgia, and seizure help. It was basically an exit drug for me to get off of all pain killers and flexiril.  Near the end of my teaching/coaching career, I was just beginning to have issues with pain meds.  I had a script for perc, vike, oxy, flex, and although I had kept from using any of them on a regular basis, I had slipped into that pattern for the last 2 weeks that I used them.  It ended when I had a bad day teaching.  I quit all pain meds that night, and got my medicinal card a few weeks later.  I would much rather have the occasional loss of keys than the mind erasure effect that the prescription drugs had on me.  I know that was a hell of a side track, but I have tried edibles, and many years ago, I smoked before watching a session.  The wrestling was insanely good, but I forgot where I parked and spent about a half an hour searching...I couldn't enjoy it because I was a little too paranoid, and I had a bit of a time warp.  (The effect where time seems to either speed up or go incredibly slow)  Kind of like the glitch in Limitless.Even though I'm fairly experienced at medicating while playing pool for instance, I will never try it again at the tournament.  

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I don't doubt there are benefits as well as drawbacks.

Law Enforcement. For now it is a question of legal or illegal, not right or wrong.

Change the laws, regulate it, inspect it, assure quality and purity and tax it. Figure a better way to deal with misuse and under age usage.

Once it is actually legal you can made a free choice without the threat of prosecution hanging over you.

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12 minutes ago, Peso said:

About a year after I retired, I went to work in  a dispensary in Colorado for 8 months.  The plan was I would learn to grow it commercially, and my business partner would provide the grow facility and financial backing to try a new business adventure.  We were banking on Oklahoma legalizing cannabis and we planned on taking advantage of that business opportunity.  He passed away before I even came back, but meanwhile I picked up priceless experience in the industry.  I see by your comments that I feel different than most of you.  I know there are plenty of issues with cannabis.  There are plenty of benefits too.  Most noteworthy from my dispensary days, were the PTSD guys.  I also saw customers/patients with chronic pain and fibromyalgia, and seizure help. It was basically an exit drug for me to get off of all pain killers and flexiril.  Near the end of my teaching/coaching career, I was just beginning to have issues with pain meds.  I had a script for perc, vike, oxy, flex, and although I had kept from using any of them on a regular basis, I had slipped into that pattern for the last 2 weeks that I used them.  It ended when I had a bad day teaching.  I quit all pain meds that night, and got my medicinal card a few weeks later.  I would much rather have the occasional loss of keys than the mind erasure effect that the prescription drugs had on me.  I know that was a hell of a side track, but I have tried edibles, and many years ago, I smoked before watching a session.  The wrestling was insanely good, but I forgot where I parked and spent about a half an hour searching...I couldn't enjoy it because I was a little too paranoid, and I had a bit of a time warp.  (The effect where time seems to either speed up or go incredibly slow)  Kind of like the glitch in Limitless.Even though I'm fairly experienced at medicating while playing pool for instance, I will never try it again at the tournament.  

You hit the nail on the head much rather see people use it for pain management instead of pharmaceutical companies pushing pain killers down people’s throats. Pharmaceutical companies are the real drug dealers and the reason this country has epidemic on our hands.

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Weed be better off w/o it

but it's here to stay. 

If you think it's bad

then that's quite O.K.

But if you think it good

then the last line won't rhyme.

Edited by Cooch1
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17 hours ago, qc8223 said:

You were doing so well until you got to that point haha. It's important to remember that Fox News, which is mostly a mouthpiece for the GOP, frequently has ratings better than MSNBC and CNN combined, but keep telling yourself that the media has a liberal bias so you can play the victim even though your politicians control all 3 branches of government despite consistently receiving less votes in the so-called "democratic" elections. The victim-mentality is an essential part of the modern conservative identity. Everybody is out to get you guys.

The wingers certainly love playing the victim card, don't they? The funniest is when the evangelicals bitch that not allowing them to discriminate/harrass others is a VIOLATION OF THEIR RIGHTS, lol.

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17 hours ago, qc8223 said:

You were doing so well until you got to that point haha. It's important to remember that Fox News, which is mostly a mouthpiece for the GOP, frequently has ratings better than MSNBC and CNN combined, but keep telling yourself that the media has a liberal bias so you can play the victim even though your politicians control all 3 branches of government despite consistently receiving less votes in the so-called "democratic" elections. The victim-mentality is an essential part of the modern conservative identity. Everybody is out to get you guys.

Thanks for bucketing me into a group that I'm not a part of.  I'm Libertarian, actually.  But thanks for trying.

I suppose I may be "defending" the so called conservatives because, well, they are under a massive attack by a.) "mainstream media" (last time I checked, CNN was the one with the contract to be in every single airport in the USSA), b.) Celebrity (when's the last time a conservative or Libertarian Hollywood type came out of their proverbial closet?  Yeah... it's called blacklisting), and c.) public education system.  I have two kids.  What they are teaching today is revisionist history.  I have proof, and am actively working with local leaders in my area to address.  Interestingly enough, I kept some of my papers, books, etc. from elementary days in a "memory box".  I compared my assignments and books to today's.  They are different, and no, history didn't all of a sudden change.  

I only wish the LIbertarians  controlled all 3 branches of government.  We may actually have a balanced budget, and may actually have true, equal, and maximized freedom, instead of each party pushing for "more equality than others".  

"Victim Mentality"?  Look at the facts.  The only victims right now are those caught between Rhino Republicans with Deep State tentacles and the Socialist Left that want to... well.. I have no idea how their ideals are actually a "thing".  

Now... moderator... I've probably done enough to ban the thread.  My apologies.  Not intentional.  But... I suppose it was the direction that this this was bound to take with a title containing "weed".

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10 hours ago, Peso said:

About a year after I retired, I went to work in  a dispensary in Colorado for 8 months.  The plan was I would learn to grow it commercially, and my business partner would provide the grow facility and financial backing to try a new business adventure.  We were banking on Oklahoma legalizing cannabis and we planned on taking advantage of that business opportunity.  He passed away before I even came back, but meanwhile I picked up priceless experience in the industry.  I see by your comments that I feel different than most of you.  I know there are plenty of issues with cannabis.  There are plenty of benefits too.  Most noteworthy from my dispensary days, were the PTSD guys.  I also saw customers/patients with chronic pain and fibromyalgia, and seizure help. It was basically an exit drug for me to get off of all pain killers and flexiril.  Near the end of my teaching/coaching career, I was just beginning to have issues with pain meds.  I had a script for perc, vike, oxy, flex, and although I had kept from using any of them on a regular basis, I had slipped into that pattern for the last 2 weeks that I used them.  It ended when I had a bad day teaching.  I quit all pain meds that night, and got my medicinal card a few weeks later.  I would much rather have the occasional loss of keys than the mind erasure effect that the prescription drugs had on me.  I know that was a hell of a side track, but I have tried edibles, and many years ago, I smoked before watching a session.  The wrestling was insanely good, but I forgot where I parked and spent about a half an hour searching...I couldn't enjoy it because I was a little too paranoid, and I had a bit of a time warp.  (The effect where time seems to either speed up or go incredibly slow)  Kind of like the glitch in Limitless.Even though I'm fairly experienced at medicating while playing pool for instance, I will never try it again at the tournament.  

This is fantastic, and I'm glad that you've found this to be a source of relief.  Now that I'm middle aged, my sciatica needs controlled, and I have this weird lower lumbar inflammation thing that the neurologists can't really figure out, but causes intense, beyond migraine headache pain when it flares.  Completely debilitating.  Since I live in CO, I do have the fortunate opportunity to purchase Indica and Indica hybrid strains, as they are wonderful for pain/inflammation given their CBD content.  Sure, the little bit of THC gives you some loopiness for a spat, but the pain relief is unlike anything that Percoset, Vicatin, or any of the other big pharma "crap" that they push can really do.  It's natural.  Now...  I ONLY do this in times of pain, and in the evenings to also assist with sleep.  

If other posters recall, I work in Marketing, executive level, manage team(s) of people, and have worked in Big CPG, Big Tech, Sports and Entertainment and now Retail Industries.  My wife is super happy that I too have found the relief I need, to lead a happier, and truly healthier life, and am now able to train BJJ, since it's a cousin of wrestling, and my back/headaches are doing much better).  

So... I argue... as a successful business person, married with two young children, and active in my community, I'm not some "druggie" who has succumbed to the "reefer madness".  I look forward to the full decriminalization and subsequent legalization.  Will there be those who abuse.  Of course.  Just like with alcohol, there is abuse.  But, to the posters earlier point, we can regulate, tax, and ensure that it's responsibly distributed for those "law-abiding", positively contributing members of society.  

Thanks again for sharing Peso. 

Edited by treep2000

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15 minutes ago, treep2000 said:

Thanks for bucketing me into a group that I'm not a part of.  I'm Libertarian, actually.  But thanks for trying.

I suppose I may be "defending" the so called conservatives because, well, they are under a massive attack by a.) "mainstream media" (last time I checked, CNN was the one with the contract to be in every single airport in the USSA), b.) Celebrity (when's the last time a conservative or Libertarian Hollywood type came out of their proverbial closet?  Yeah... it's called blacklisting), and

I only wish the LIbertarians  controlled all 3 branches of government.  We may actually have a balanced budget, and may actually have true, equal, and maximized freedom, instead of each party pushing for "more equality than others".  

"Victim Mentality"?  Look at the facts.  The only victims right now are those caught between Rhino Republicans with Deep State tentacles and the Socialist Left that want to... well.. I have no idea how their ideals are actually a "thing".  

Now... moderator... I've probably done enough to ban the thread.  My apologies.  Not intentional.  But... I suppose it was the direction that this this was bound to take with a title containing "weed".

Ah libertarians. So quick to dismiss socialism as communism and embrace the tyranny of unrestricted capitalism.

 

 

17 minutes ago, treep2000 said:

I suppose I may be "defending" the so called conservatives because, well, they are under a massive attack by a.) "mainstream media" (last time I checked, CNN was the one with the contract to be in every single airport in the USSA),

You mention CNN and another poster mentioned CNN, but do you know what Sinclair Broadcasting Group is?

The company is the largest owner of local television stations in the country, with 173 stations in 81 broadcast markets that stretch from coast to coast and just about everywhere in between, at a time when local news outpaces national news outlets both in overall viewership and trust. Some 85 percent of Americans trust local news outlets, higher than the 77 percent for family or friends, according to the Pew Research Center.
But a video that showcased its anchors reading required scripts that seemed to parrot one of President Donald Trumps's favorite themes has drawn renewed scrutiny to what critics see as the media conglomerate's years-long efforts to inject conservative-tinged coverage into local markets. -Chicago Tribune


Conservative media is doing just fine. 
 

27 minutes ago, treep2000 said:

c.) public education system.  I have two kids.  What they are teaching today is revisionist history.  I have proof, and am actively working with local leaders in my area to address.  Interestingly enough, I kept some of my papers, books, etc. from elementary days in a "memory box".  I compared my assignments and books to today's.  They are different, and no, history didn't all of a sudden change.  

 

Let me guess. You want to privatize education? If that happens be prepared to have the largest gap of inequality this world has ever seen. 

FYI Germany has a huge trade surplus BECAUSE of its social programs that provides excellent education. Not in spite of it. 

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You do you.  At least you seem principled in your willingness to give up your rights for failed social programs and making an already corrupt government bigger and badder than ever.  Now... Let's get back to wrestling before your party bans it for toxic masculinity.  

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28 minutes ago, treep2000 said:

You do you.  At least you seem principled in your willingness to give up your rights for failed social programs and making an already corrupt government bigger and badder than ever.  Now... Let's get back to wrestling before your party bans it for toxic masculinity.  

I think the way to battle government is not to eliminate it, it's to fix the corruption. Different views, and that's fine. Democrat, Republican. Left right, there is room for corruption in both IMO. Enjoy the tourney.

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20 minutes ago, DrStrange said:

You guys suck. Way to ruin a thread with politics. Go somewhere else. Its NCAAs and all you can do is **** post!!

Shut up. Your not the epitome of solid wrestling discussion on this forum. I ruined the weed thread with politics? I doubt this was going to evolve into some deep discussion about the sport had we not showed up. Go kick rocks.

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