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I don't know why, but I have always like Chance. Even when he was on top of the world, he seemed so humble. After his college career started terribly and then his life looked a lot worse than his career, he put it all back together. He won't win a title, but has a chance for two straight top 4 finishes.

Would it have all worked out better had he gone to Penn State like God intended?

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5 hours ago, TobusRex said:
Nope. He'd have never cracked the lineup at PSU.

 

It actually makes an interesting 'what if' discussion. 

Chance and Nolf (class of 2014) were a year ahead of Cenzo (class of 2015) in HS.  Question is... with 4x undefeated PIAA champ Marsteller (projected at 165) AND 3x one-loss PIAA champ Nolf (projected at 157) already on the roster at PSU in the midst of their RS years, would Cenzo have also gone there?  Maybe not.  And if not, where would Cenzo have gone?  Here's an excerpt from Flo's announcement of his commitment to PSU:

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Vincenzo Joseph is heading to State College. 

Joseph, the top ranked 145 pounder in the country has verbally committed to a Penn State program that is coming off 4 straight NCAA team titles and the #1 recruiting class.

The Pittsburgh Central Catholic star projects as a 149 at the next level.  He is a 2014 PA State Champion, as well as a Fargo Freestyle runner up at 145 where he notched a win over Fredy Stroker.  

Joseph also boasts wins over Michael Kemerer, Pat Duggan and Austin Assad.  Vincenzo brings all the tools to the next level.  He's a great combination of strength, speed and varied attacks.  Not only can Vincenzo get to legs, he is an extremely skilled finisher, able to navigate various counters from opponents.  He'll be a great fit at the next level.

He chose PSU over Cornell Ohio State Virginia Tech, and Iowa in a list that originally included Pitt, and Lehigh

Makes you wonder what would have happened if Chance had gone to PSU and wrestled there as a career 165, instead of being forced down to 157 as he was at Oklahoma State.

 

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6 hours ago, NJDan said:

I don't know why, but I have always like Chance. Even when he was on top of the world, he seemed so humble. After his college career started terribly and then his life looked a lot worse than his career, he put it all back together. He won't win a title, but has a chance for two straight top 4 finishes.

Would it have all worked out better had he gone to Penn State like God intended?

God obviously favors the lanky 165er from Wisconsin.

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40 minutes ago, lu_alum said:

It actually makes an interesting 'what if' discussion. 

 

Pretty sure Cornell is first on the list you quoted of runners-up for his services for a reason. For the opportunity to wrestle with Dake alone, I think he would've ended up at Cornell.

I agree he wouldn't have chosen PSU if Chance had been there. You have to give it to Cael, who took a lot of sht for "letting" Chance go elsewhere (yes, it was Chance's decision, but Cael could no have cared less in the end). He knows who's likely to work out on his team much more often than not.

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4 hours ago, lu_alum said:

It actually makes an interesting 'what if' discussion. 

Chance and Nolf (class of 2014) were a year ahead of Cenzo (class of 2015) in HS.  Question is... with 4x undefeated PIAA champ Marsteller (projected at 165) AND 3x one-loss PIAA champ Nolf (projected at 157) already on the roster at PSU in the midst of their RS years, would Cenzo have also gone there?  Maybe not.  And if not, where would Cenzo have gone?  Here's an excerpt from Flo's announcement of his commitment to PSU:

Makes you wonder what would have happened if Chance had gone to PSU and wrestled there as a career 165, instead of being forced down to 157 as he was at Oklahoma State.

 

"Forced" down by getting flattened daily not only to Dieringer, but everyone else in the room?

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Family man Chance with wife and two kids. What a departure from his freshman year drunken naked apartment-knocking days. He really got his situation sorted and seems to be in a really good place in life.

Didn’t that happen at Lock Haven (prior to RS SO year)?

 

 

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10 hours ago, Old Corps said:

This is a great story. 

He appeared to be on a rapid downward spiral, and with help from others and his own resolve, he got himself right. 

I wish him a long and happy life!

Some of the loudest cheers of the weekend were for him. He made a really hard sport look easy as a kid, then made things really hard on himself as a young man, then overcame what he did to himself and did some great wrestling to boot. Finishing by beating a guy who had pinned him twice at NCAAs was a neat way to go out. 

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16 hours ago, Katie said:

No way. God just planned for him to place fourth this year, which is a tremendous achievement.

Amazing how God has time to intervene so that Chance could finish 4th this year. With his busy schedule of 1) smiting the disbelievers, 2) giving 5 year olds terminal cancer, 3) sending hurricanes to punish the USA for gay marriage it's hard to believe God has time for anything else....

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Imagine how well Chance might've done if he had legs longer than 15".

Seriously though, Chance made a huge mistake going to Oklahoma State. That weight pull to 157 wiped out his FR year, and being so far from home certainly didn't help Chance's personal issues. Add in the fact that Stillwater, Oklahoma is about as interesting as a dried out horse turd and is it really surprising that Chance started drinking/partying out of frustration/boredom? If Chance had gone to PSU his results would've certainly been better....assuming he was the starter.

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Pretty cool to see the way he turned his life around! Would have loved to see him in he finals, but it was a cool way to end his career by beating he kid who pinned him twice! Also, beating top seed Marinelli and avenging his loss to Shields on the backside... great tournament!

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