lurshy92 27 Report post Posted March 25 2010 vs 2019 125: McD vs Lee... Lee more technical 133: Ness vs. Suriano.. Ness 141: Dake vs Yianni… Yianni 149: Metcalf vs. Ashualt.. Metcalf 157: O'Conner vs Nolf… Nolf 165: Howe vs. Lewis... lewis 174: Borschel vs. Valencia... Valencia 184: Askren (Max) vs. Foster... Askren 197: Varner vs Nickel... Nickel 285: Zabriske vs. Casser.. Casser Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigerfan 103 Report post Posted March 25 Dake can't catch a break in fantasy match ups. Howe/Lewis would be great. I'd give the nod to Varner, and Zab beat Rosholt, Ellis, Erekson, Dudziak, Rey, etc. WAY tougher bracket. I'd go with Zabriskie. Was Dhesi the only returning AA in the field this year? 1 MikePorcelli reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lurshy92 27 Report post Posted March 25 im a NY guy and always picked dake over taylor, but I got to give the edge to yianni being his sophomore year vs dakes freshmen year...…..both are freaks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GockeS 236 Report post Posted March 25 (edited) only one i disagree with I think its KD over YD Edited March 25 by GockeS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 605 Report post Posted March 25 5 minutes ago, GockeS said: only one i disagree with I think its KD over YD Keep in mind this is FR Dake v SO Yianni. Might have some impact. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScarletKnight 62 Report post Posted March 25 Metcalf always loses to nj guys (molinaro and caldwell are his most painful American losses) so ill pick ashnault. And no way ness would win Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 1,903 Report post Posted March 25 1 hour ago, ScarletKnight said: Metcalf always loses to nj guys (molinaro and caldwell are his most painful American losses) so ill pick ashnault. And no way ness would win He's like 15-1 against Molinaro and undefeated against Jordan Burroughs. So....nailed it? I'd probably take: McDonough over Lee (freshman McDonough over sophomore Lee) Suriano over Ness Dake over Yianni Metcalf easily over Ashnault Nolf over O'Connor Howe over Lewis Valencia over Borschel Askren over Foster Varner over Nickal Casser over Zabriskie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamStall365247 41 Report post Posted March 25 A lot of people forgot how good Howe was. Yet another hammer that had the unlucky pleasure of being born around the same time as Burroughs, Dake, and Taylor. Howe was very, very good. 1 bnwtwg reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GockeS 236 Report post Posted March 26 5 hours ago, lu_alum said: Keep in mind this is FR Dake v SO Yianni. Might have some impact. kid dynamite yanni might have had to shoot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScarletKnight 62 Report post Posted March 26 4 hours ago, VakAttack said: He's like 15-1 against Molinaro and undefeated against Jordan Burroughs. So....nailed it? I'd probably take: McDonough over Lee (freshman McDonough over sophomore Lee) Suriano over Ness Dake over Yianni Metcalf easily over Ashnault Nolf over O'Connor Howe over Lewis Valencia over Borschel Askren over Foster Varner over Nickal Casser over Zabriskie Burroughs was before he became truly great (final 2 years). That loss to molinaro put him into retirement and it prevented him from the Olympics so it was pretty significant. And of course caldwell was an ncaa finals (not that u forgot that one) Did metcalf have an undefeated season like ashnault just did? Lost to caldwell, caldwell and palmer, right? Ill stick with my picks. Not that metcalf wasn't great, he was, but he had some chinks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 1,903 Report post Posted March 26 33 minutes ago, ScarletKnight said: Burroughs was before he became truly great (final 2 years). That loss to molinaro put him into retirement and it prevented him from the Olympics so it was pretty significant. And of course caldwell was an ncaa finals (not that u forgot that one) Did metcalf have an undefeated season like ashnault just did? Lost to caldwell, caldwell and palmer, right? Ill stick with my picks. Not that metcalf wasn't great, he was, but he had some chinks Ashnault didn't have anybody on the level of the guys who beat Metcalf. And Molinaro beat Metcalf once. On criteria. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 332 Report post Posted March 26 Well I think Metcalf would've handled Ashnault, it might have been close early on but with Brent's head snaps and gas take, I believe he would eventually wear Ashnault down. As far as Spencer goes, I think It would be close but I believe Spencer has a few more weapons in his arsenal than McDonough has. Also Spencer has extensive international experience, so I think would find a way to prevail. Now the Varner versus Nickal match would be very interesting. One the one hand your have a mountain of muscle with a great ankle pick, going against a guy who is very slick and versatile. But even though I think Nickal will go on to do great things, I think Varner would stay in position and keep Nickal's offense stymied. Varner would either get his ankle pick or maybe a slide by, to clinch things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,562 Report post Posted March 26 Nickal has never had to wrestle anyone as strong as Varnish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klehner 173 Report post Posted March 26 7 hours ago, GockeS said: kid dynamite yanni might have had to shoot Interesting that Rob Koll says that Yianni is ahead of Dake at this point in their respective careers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 1,704 Report post Posted March 26 1 hour ago, scribe said: Nickal has never had to wrestle anyone as strong as Varnish Except during every practice for the last 5 years 1 UTW711 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 1,287 Report post Posted March 26 7 hours ago, VakAttack said: Ashnault didn't have anybody on the level of the guys who beat Metcalf. And Molinaro beat Metcalf once. On criteria. No kidding. The fact that Ashnault won the NC at all just shows how weak 149 was this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 1,287 Report post Posted March 26 9 minutes ago, Housebuye said: Except during every practice for the last 5 years LOL....he's a PSU coach isn't he? No wonder Bo got so good so fast. Varner was a superb wrestler, but I never liked him. 1 Housebuye reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crotalus 217 Report post Posted March 26 8 hours ago, ScarletKnight said: Burroughs was before he became truly great (final 2 years). That loss to molinaro put him into retirement and it prevented him from the Olympics so it was pretty significant. And of course caldwell was an ncaa finals (not that u forgot that one) Did metcalf have an undefeated season like ashnault just did? Lost to caldwell, caldwell and palmer, right? Ill stick with my picks. Not that metcalf wasn't great, he was, but he had some chinks You did say that he "always loses to nj guys"..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 124 Report post Posted March 26 I CHALLENGE the spelling in the title....not trying too be to critical, but my English teacher would have gone nuts. (but then again, she didn't like the Beatles when they were introduced on the Ed Sullivan show). To give you a clue as to when that was, I was in her class when the principal came to the door and announced that President Kennedy had been shot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 3,046 Report post Posted March 26 (edited) Howe is a plodder compared to Mehki Lewis. Did his loss to Perry, even at a different weight, not teach us that? Edited March 26 by TBar1977 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klehner 173 Report post Posted March 26 8 minutes ago, fadzaev2 said: I CHALLENGE the spelling in the title....not trying too be to critical, but my English teacher would have gone nuts. (but then again, she didn't like the Beatles when they were introduced on the Ed Sullivan show). To give you a clue as to when that was, I was in her class when the principal came to the door and announced that President Kennedy had been shot. The OP used the French spelling to appear more cultured. 1 fadzaev2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScarletKnight 62 Report post Posted March 26 24 minutes ago, Crotalus said: You did say that he "always loses to nj guys"..... lol - true. He hasn't lost often, so I should have said some of the more painful ones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GockeS 236 Report post Posted March 26 2 hours ago, klehner said: Interesting that Rob Koll says that Yianni is ahead of Dake at this point in their respective careers... perhaps. but he is still kid dynamite and the intangibles that go with that 1 fadzaev2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klehner 173 Report post Posted March 26 12 minutes ago, GockeS said: perhaps. but he is still kid dynamite and the intangibles that go with that How many intangibles go with a 66-1 collegiate record? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 918 Report post Posted March 26 9 hours ago, VakAttack said: Ashnault didn't have anybody on the level of the guys who beat Metcalf. And Molinaro beat Metcalf once. On criteria. Wasn't Molinaro there for Ant's early years at Rutgers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
