What college produces the best freestylers?

[ShakaAloha 426]

23 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

It seems that Cornell the answer currently.  Yianni, Garrett, Dake are all top notch.

2nd place is probably Ohio State - Snyder, McKenna, Stieber (until recently).  3rd is probably a tie between Iowa, Nebraska, Mizzou and Ok State.  Gilman, Ramos, Eierman, Cox, Green, JB, Dierenger, etc.

The big question is why isn't PSU better....sure they have Taylor (pray he isn't severely hurt) but other than that no real freestyle studs.  Until recently Retherford seemed to be their best hope but Yianni is otherworldly.

Not trying to be a jerk, but your comments are ridiculous.  Have you only been following wrestling for the last four years?

[HoonMasta 5]

1 hour ago, klehner said:

By the way, Yianni has two world gold medals on the world stage (albeit at Cadet), and Garrett has made the US world team.

 

Doesn't count. Nice try, though.

[Katie 1,076]

1 hour ago, ShakaAloha said:

Not trying to be a jerk, but your comments are ridiculous.  Have you only been following wrestling for the last four years?

He's a troll who spams anti-PSU posts. This one is one of his better efforts.

Edited May 8, 2019 by Katie

[klehner 734]

1 hour ago, HoonMasta said:

Doesn't count. Nice try, though.

Right.  But what Nickal and Nolf *might* do in the future does count.  Got it, thanks.

[GockeS 548]

3 hours ago, Katie said:

The NLWC produced Varner, Gomez, and Taylor — all senior world-level medalists.

those weren't the names mentioned.

I believe the names mentioned started with N

[HoonMasta 5]

7 hours ago, klehner said:

Right.  But what Nickal and Nolf *might* do in the future does count.  Got it, thanks.

You should read my first post.

 

[CoachWrestling 432]

On 5/7/2019 at 11:14 PM, LJB said:

No college produces freestyle wrestlers... they only hamper them

Complete bull****. 

[Mr. Peepers 25]

Or we could try to address the question objectively.

Using https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Rankings/US-Senior-Rankings/FS/2018/April/13/TheMat-MFS-April-rankings for rankings, I made up a spread sheet with all 10 ranked guys from every class.  I awarded 10 points for a #1 ranking, 9 for #2, etc.  This may not be entirely fair, as it underrepresents lower ranked wrestlers, but I'm not a statistician and I don't really know any other way to proceed.  Adding everyone up, I came up with the following:

Penn State	73
Ohio State	64
Iowa	50
Oklahoma State	28
NC State	26
Cornell	25
Nebraska	25
D3	23
Minnesota	23
Missouri	21
Wisconsin	20
Illinois	17
Iowa State	17
Oklahoma	14
Arizona State	13
Northern Iowa	13
NAIA	11
Bloomsburg	9
No College	9
ND State	8
Rutgers	8
Lehigh	7
VA Tech	7
Northwestern	6
Boise State	5
Loch Haven	5
North Carolina	4
Maryland	3
Penn	3
Rider	3
SD State	3
Army West Point	2
Cal Poly	2
Northern Colorado	2
Michigan	1

[BadgerMon 226]

Please excuse omissions....don't have all that research time to do this right:

Iowa- Banach, Banach, Lewis, McIlravy, Brands, Brands, Penrith, Davis, McCann, Campbell,Zadick, Zadick, Alger- about 23 medals

Nebraska produced the Scherr Brothers, Jordan Burroughs and James Green. About 17 world level medals there.

Oklahoma- Schultz, Schultz, Hodge, Wells, Metzger 17 medals

Oklahoma State - Uetake, Smith, Smith, Blubaugh, Cross, Scott, Monday 16 medals

Iowa State- Jackson, Gable, Sanderson, Peterson, Carr, Taylor, Varner- 14 world medals right there.

Wisconsin had Rein, Hellickson, Kemp, Haines, Reinwand, Don Pritzlaff ( Two Tblisi championships in there as well)  10 medals

Indiana State- Baumgartner alone has what- 10 ?

 

Also, I'm not counting Tblisi, Jr World or Cadet World medals.

Edited May 15, 2019 by BadgerMon

[KTG119 820]

36 minutes ago, BadgerMon said:

 

Iowa- Banach, Banach, Lewis, McIlravy, Brands, Brands, Penrith- about a  dozen

 

 

I'll forgive the omission, but must point out you left out  Barry Davis from the Iowa crew. More world level medals than most of those guys.     

[GockeS 548]

On 5/9/2019 at 6:23 PM, Mr. Peepers said:

Or we could try to address the question objectively.

Using https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Rankings/US-Senior-Rankings/FS/2018/April/13/TheMat-MFS-April-rankings for rankings, I made up a spread sheet with all 10 ranked guys from every class.  I awarded 10 points for a #1 ranking, 9 for #2, etc.  This may not be entirely fair, as it underrepresents lower ranked wrestlers, but I'm not a statistician and I don't really know any other way to proceed.  Adding everyone up, I came up with the following:

Penn State	73
Ohio State	64
Iowa	50
Oklahoma State	28
NC State	26
Cornell	25
Nebraska	25
D3	23
Minnesota	23
Missouri	21
Wisconsin	20
Illinois	17
Iowa State	17
Oklahoma	14
Arizona State	13
Northern Iowa	13
NAIA	11
Bloomsburg	9
No College	9
ND State	8
Rutgers	8
Lehigh	7
VA Tech	7
Northwestern	6
Boise State	5
Loch Haven	5
North Carolina	4
Maryland	3
Penn	3
Rider	3
SD State	3
Army West Point	2
Cal Poly	2
Northern Colorado	2
Michigan	1

i thought we were talking world level accomplishments.

[TobusRex 2,108]

On 5/7/2019 at 8:20 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Praise PSU?  I am criticizing them for not producing better freestylers....

You do realize that colleges wrestle folk, I take it?

[Mr. Peepers 25]

On ‎5‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 8:31 PM, GockeS said:

i thought we were talking world level accomplishments.

I wasn't aware that was the only criteria- I simply attempted to address the original question using some sort of objective information.  Feel free to ignore the national rankings- I have no dog in this fight and really don't care one way or the other. 

[GockeS 548]

good enough for me. most of the talk had been about world level and 'what might' happen on world level.

[TobusRex 2,108]

University of Moscow, perhaps Tehran U.

Edited May 12, 2019 by TobusRex

[JasonBryant 2,096]

University of Moscow, perhaps Tehran U.

NSSU in Japan would be a contender.

[TobusRex 2,108]

1 hour ago, JasonBryant said:

NSSU in Japan would be a contender.

Pffft. They have an unfair advantage in Uetake!

[BadgerMon 226]

On 5/10/2019 at 10:15 AM, KTG119 said:

I'll forgive the omission, but must point out you left out  Barry Davis from the Iowa crew. More world level medals than most of those guys.     

I found a few more! Look up :-)

 

Edited May 13, 2019 by BadgerMon

[stp 564]

On 5/7/2019 at 7:17 PM, treep2000 said:

Snyder was Snyder before Ohio State.  tOSU just helped him evolve a bit, but he would have done what he did, regardless of school.

Tervel is only employed by one school.