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Johny Hendricks vs. Carlos Condit last night (Spoiler)

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Challenged for the first time? Hendricks has a loss.

 

 

Yea. It was a submission. I dont really count those:-) Just kidding. A lot of wrestlers get submitted in there first few fights then they learn.

 

I don't think he got submitted, I thought he lost a decision? As you said, this was years ago when he first started.

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Hendricks looked fantastic on Saturday night. Keep in mind he's in there with guys far more experienced than him. Johny is basically a wrestler that can punch. These other guys are life long martial artists, yet Johny keeps winning. He really does present some major problems for GSP. The French Canadian likes to control distance and pace. The last time he got into a shoot out, the night ended with him tapping out to strikes vs Matt Serra. and Hendricks closes the distance and comes with power, something that can make Georges very uncomfortable. And if Hendricks hits him, St. Pierre could very well be looking to bail out of there and live to fight another day.

 

More and more people are claiming the UFC is allowing GSP to fight primarily out of the USA for the sake of him not getting popped on a drug test. And it makes sense, he's their cash cow. Either way, I don't see drugs making much of a difference in this matchup. Either Georges can take johny's punch and take him down, or he can't. And if he can't, we're going to see a new Welter Weight champion.

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I don't agree with the bolded at all. Condit has weak take down defense so Hendricks taking him down at will is not surprising.

 

GSP has arguably the best take downs in MMA. Hendricks will be lucky to get a take down. GSP uses his striking to set up the takedown better than anyone in MMA.

 

Hendricks: Hendricks thought he had a broke hand. Weather it is or isn't it is obviously affecting his punching. Condit can take a hit. Hendricks landed some strong shots. Condit landed some good needs which Hendricks will need to work on. Still Hendricks showed he could take some good shots. Condit had no answer for Johny's takedowns, and was not able to work into his submissions despite the many attempts. Good awareness on Hendricks part. Hopefully he will get a shot at GSP.

 

GSP controlled the ground game and was very strong from Gaurd. Diaz could not do much to stop GSP's takedowns, but he did stop a few. GSP definitely showed his experience and ability to maintain a fight strategy. He also had excellent accuracy on his striking.

 

Hendricks vs GSP

 

Hendricks: Has the more power in his punches than GSP. If he can rock GSP with that double left GSP could be in serious trouble. I don't know that he will be able to take those punches like Condit did.

 

GSP: He is a much more accurate puncher than Johny and crisp. If he lands one of those super man punches when Hendricks drops his hands or pops Johny as he comes in with one of his bombs the fight may come to a quick end.

 

So in terms of striking it will be power vs accuracy. Their reach is pretty much identical and so is their height. While I think Hendricks can go toe to toe with GSP in striking for short bursts I don't think he want to spend a majority of any round up there. Especially late in the fight.

 

Hendricks: His takedown success ratio is ridiculous. It was something like 12/12 against Condit. Nobody in this weight can match him on takedowns.

 

GSP: He showed strong takedown ability against Diaz. More so was what he was able to do once he got there. He is so good from guard. He is very comfortable there, accurate, and successful with his elbows. He is great at dropping down with his shots as he stands up out of guard.

 

Still in terms of takedowns, as good as GSP is he will not be able to match Hendricks in this area. Hendricks will control the takedown game fairly easily. Weather it is getting the takedown or defending it. The problem becomes after the takedown. GSP is far superior in Guard. Hendricks will get plenty of takedowns, but better be extremely careful with the experience GSP has there.

 

Both Fighters: Both fighters showed some weakness late in the fight with fatigue. Both will have to improve on the conditioning. Especially Hendricks. His fight was only three rounds. If he is going go five rounds with GSP he better improve his shape.

 

I think Hendricks has a real shot. I thought he fought a better fighter in Condit than what GSP did in Diaz. Condit was in the fight in terms of some very good knees, a few kicks, and a few good strikes. All in all though Hendricks landed just as many strong shots with striking and completely controlled the ground. As good as GSP looked for just coming back he did look a little more vulnerable than in the past. If the fight goes the distance I think it will be Hendricks. Hendricks will control the takedowns and the ground. From the ground it will take GSP to pull off a submission from guard, which is very possible. Without a submission Hendricks wins this position. On their feet GSP will get the most strikes but Hendricks will get the harder strikes. I think they will be fairly even here, with GSP getting a slight edge. Still I think it is more likely that Hendricks gets a knock out with one of his blows than what GSP gets with his multiple strikes. The majority of the minutes will be spent on the ground where Hendricks will have the edge if he can avoid a submission. This will be a great fight!

 

 

Amen, Anybody that thinks Hendricks can easily out wrestle GSP is delusional. GSP has long been considered the BEST wrestler in MMA. He has dominated Matt Hughes, Koscheck and John Fitch and other solid wrestlers on the ground. He didn't come from a wrestling background but there is no arguing he has been the best wrestler in MMA for years.

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I do not believe GSP juices, as those who do have very limited gas tanks and longevity.

 

It's like some people just refuse to open their eyes...

 

 

Agreed. Limited gas tanks and longevity like Lance Armstrong for example? It is exactly his gas tank and longevity that has many thinking GSP is juiced to the gills. That and the gyno and round belly he's been sporting.

 

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I do not believe GSP juices, as those who do have very limited gas tanks and longevity.

 

It's like some people just refuse to open their eyes...

 

 

Agreed. Limited gas tanks and longevity like Lance Armstrong for example? It is exactly his gas tank and longevity that has many thinking GSP is juiced to the gills. That and the gyno and round belly he's been sporting.

 

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Jeje

 

But Cleetus, this allegation (made by a lot of fighters) was addressed by Dana this week. He responded by saying that GSP has been tested like 1,000 times and is clean as a whistle.

 

How can is that possible if he's doping? And how could he have been out for so long (injured) if he was doping? I thought PEDs sped up injury recovery time?

 

McDonald is another one wbo people are now suspicious of.

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Yea. It was a submission. I dont really count those:-) Just kidding. A lot of wrestlers get submitted in there first few fights then they learn.

Nope, Hendricks lost by decision to Rick Story. He was controlled and outwrestled. Hendricks has some of the best amateur wrestling credentials in mma, but mms is a whole different ball game. GSP is better at everything except punching power.

 

I do not believe GSP juices, as those who do have very limited gas tanks and longevity.

 

It's like some people just refuse to open their eyes...

 

 

Agreed. Limited gas tanks and longevity like Lance Armstrong for example? It is exactly his gas tank and longevity that has many thinking GSP is juiced to the gills. That and the gyno and round belly he's been sporting.

 

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1859/imagelcv.jpg

Yah, that HGH gut is suspect. I have a hard time imagining anyone naturally develops a stomach like that.

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imagelcv.jpg

 

 

Jeje

 

But Cleetus, this allegation (made by a lot of fighters) was addressed by Dana this week. He responded by saying that GSP has been tested like 1,000 times and is clean as a whistle.

 

How can is that possible if he's doping? And how could he have been out for so long (injured) if he was doping? I thought PEDs sped up injury recovery time?

 

McDonald is another one wbo people are now suspicious of.

 

Dana White said it? That guy's as big a liar is Bob Arum. It's in his interest to cast GSP in a favorable light, he's the meal ticket. i mean just look at the physique, it's clearly abnormal. Someone explain to me why a to athlete like him appears to be in his 2nd trimester.

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Reports are that Elkins finally got a top-10 opponent in NCAA runner-up Chad Mendes, who is currently the number one contender at 145. Elkins and Mendes will reportedly be meeting at UFC on Fox on 4/20/13. Elkins is stepping in for Clay Guida, who was injured.

 

Daniel Cormier will be co-headlining the event, and Cuban world champ Yoel Romero will be fighting on the preliminary card.

 

http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/03/d ... c-on-fox-7

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Man I would like to see Cormier fight Romero if he goes to 205! How many time when Sajidov and Satiev beat him do you think he said man I would like to punch them-he would have killed them in a fight. Never would have thought when watching Cormier at Okst that he was the best fighter in the world or could be soon.

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imagelcv.jpg

 

 

Jeje

 

But Cleetus, this allegation (made by a lot of fighters) was addressed by Dana this week. He responded by saying that GSP has been tested like 1,000 times and is clean as a whistle.

 

How can is that possible if he's doping? And how could he have been out for so long (injured) if he was doping? I thought PEDs sped up injury recovery time?

 

McDonald is another one wbo people are now suspicious of.

 

The prosecution rests!

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If you guys don't think that GSP started to fade in that fight against DIAZ, look at how many takedowns Diaz started to stop/defend as the fight wore on. GSP has not had a finish since 2009. The difference in this fight is Johny has the ability to land the KO/TKO, whereas most would say if GSP is going to win, it will be a decision. Johny may put himself in trouble by doing it, but if he lands that left handed bomb anywhere near cleanly on GSP, it's going to be a short night for the champ. I am a GSP fan first, but I am also a realist. I think this is a bad matchup for GSP. I'm picking Hendricks.

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The prosecution rests!

 

Anyone who does excessive core training will look like that when they are hydrated. Squaters, boxers, MMA, guys, gymnasts, olympic lifters, etc. Abdominal muscle hypertrophy pushes the gut out just like any other muscle. I looked like that when I competed d1, and I never 'juiced' with anything other than steak and eggs. I'm not even saying he doesn't, actually I think someone in his line of work would be an absolute idiot not to, but that picture is hardly case-closed evidence.

 

(So you don't think I'm spewing bro-science, I'm a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist who majored in physical therapy in college )

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Hendricks puts fear into GSP because of the cannon he holds in his left hand. Diaz, Condit neither had KO power like JH. The last person he fought who did was Koscheck who throws wildly and without a thought.

 

GSP will be hesitant because of it and we all know what happens when you hesitate....( :!: Night Night!

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The prosecution rests!

 

Anyone who does excessive core training will look like that when they are hydrated. Squaters, boxers, MMA, guys, gymnasts, olympic lifters, etc. Abdominal muscle hypertrophy pushes the gut out just like any other muscle. I looked like that when I competed d1, and I never 'juiced' with anything other than steak and eggs. I'm not even saying he doesn't, actually I think someone in his line of work would be an absolute idiot not to, but that picture is hardly case-closed evidence.

 

(So you don't think I'm spewing bro-science, I'm a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist who majored in physical therapy in college )

 

 

So we have the expert's opinion? He's clean? Maybe we should call him the natural (for a different reason) now that Randy's gone. Jeje

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You are right Old Marine......both Casey Strand and Gil Castillo, an Antioch High School graduate who although a little later in life than most MMA guys now days, went on to do very well in the cage/octagon.

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The last time he got into a shoot out, the night ended with him tapping out to strikes vs Matt Serra.

The ref stopped it - due to Serra's punches. He wasn't coherant enough to tap.

 

Oh he was plenty coherent, he just wasn't willing to take any more punishment. Don't believe me, watch the right hand tapping quicker than a wood pecker.

 

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The prosecution rests!

 

Anyone who does excessive core training will look like that when they are hydrated. Squaters, boxers, MMA, guys, gymnasts, olympic lifters, etc. Abdominal muscle hypertrophy pushes the gut out just like any other muscle. I looked like that when I competed d1, and I never 'juiced' with anything other than steak and eggs. I'm not even saying he doesn't, actually I think someone in his line of work would be an absolute idiot not to, but that picture is hardly case-closed evidence.

 

(So you don't think I'm spewing bro-science, I'm a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist who majored in physical therapy in college )

 

 

lol, that excuse of over training the core is my single favorite GSP fan boi defense. Here's a good example of over training the core by an individual who I'm told is GSP's very own core trainer

 

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Impressive how well he's able to develop his stomach! l0l

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