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Congratulations to PD3.  

 

Taylor's health is the unknown here, if he is 100 then PD3 will have to wait until next year.

If not then PD3 will represent the USA come world championships.   

Look at PD3's interview afterwards, he is not perfect but much improved as far as attitude since last year.  

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That was a fun match! Got heated, but wasn't any closer to punches than one of the women's matches that came soon after.

Neither guy was any worse than the other. In any case, I like the emotion - and with Taylor being potentially banged up, anything could happen in the PD3 v Taylor matchup.

The future looks bright for USA Wrestling!

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2 hours ago, KCMO2 said:

You'd better watch it again.  Downey is doing his extra-curricular stuff on top a good 3-4 seconds after time expired.

Yep, I misremembered the time.  I still stand by my assessment in general, though.  DOwney looked like he was letting Heflin up, and Heflin bucked up into him a bit, and then DOwney started getting a LITTLE rough on top.  I think this is being blown out of proportion more because of who it was rather than what happened.

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1 hour ago, VakAttack said:

Yep, I misremembered the time.  I still stand by my assessment in general, though.  DOwney looked like he was letting Heflin up, and Heflin bucked up into him a bit, and then DOwney started getting a LITTLE rough on top.  I think this is being blown out of proportion more because of who it was rather than what happened.

It’s not actually a big deal. Downey is Downey. 

It would be a crazy redemption story if he makes the world team (realistic with taylor injury maybe?) and then medaled. If he makes the team, everyone will be rooting for him

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Finally watched the match... my thoughts are anyone who had an opinion previous to that match is not going to persuaded to change regardless...

no matter, both of them can act like whatever they want afterwards, but, there was 6 minutes to be the tough guy and only one of the participants imposed their will on the other, put points on the board, and won the match and series... 

heflin has his chance to be the tough guy and failed... he should have taken his medicine and acknowledged Downey was the better man... because Downey proved it in two straight... no flukes... Heflin looks bad by not accepting his position in the pecking order...

 

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12 hours ago, balanceseeker said:

Downey continued to wrestle for another 5 seconds after the match was over and then was jawing at Heflin.  He's supposed to shake his hand while the guy is still talking crap?

 Time was still on the clock and Heflin was still wrestling. Heflin wrestled dirty the entire second match...eye gouging, hands to the face, head butts...what match were you watching?

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12 hours ago, headshuck said:

I thought Downey was getting up with time on the clock and Heflin wanted to keep going?

Exactly.  Downey was letting up with time on the clock and Heflin was shoving elbows up in his face and still engaging...with time on the clock.  Downey is a tough mug who doesn't take crap from anyone. 

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Just rewatched it with sound.  Downy stops wrestling the second the referee blows the whistle.  If you want to complain about Downy being too physical with his gut lock, I would really question your intentions.  Do you really think being physical with a lock is a disgrace or do you just want a reason to hate Downy?

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12 hours ago, sisi said:

Taylor's health is the unknown here, if he is 100 then PD3 will have to wait until next year.

If not then PD3 will represent the USA come world championships.   

Taylor doesn’t need to be anywhere close to 100% to beat Downey. As long as he shows up to Final X he’s beating Downey even if it’s on one leg.

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4 minutes ago, Full Nelson said:

I thought the Downey-Heflin match was great because it gave freestyle fans a chance to watch some greco.

Downey beat a guy who has zero offense by nearly the virtual minimum score of 2-0. I guess it could have been worse, like 1-0. Can't believe he was chest thumping over that win.

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1 minute ago, TBar1977 said:

Downey beat a guy who has zero offense by nearly the virtual minimum score of 2-0. I guess it could have been worse, like 1-0. Can't believe he was chest thumping over that win.

I only remember Heflin from college years.  He had no offense then either, but kid was tougher than nails.   He beat or challenged guys who I thought were better.

There is no such thing as an easy win in WTT best of three.   Always chest-thump-worthy.

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4 minutes ago, TBar1977 said:

Downey beat a guy who has zero offense by nearly the virtual minimum score of 2-0. I guess it could have been worse, like 1-0. Can't believe he was chest thumping over that win.

this take is novak worthy...

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Of course PD3 has been all over social media since WTTs - on Twitter alone, he's sent out close to 50 tweets following his match. It's like Tweeting is part of his training routine, haha. I guess the mind games are actually a smart move though since DT is heavy on social media and you know he's seeing all the jawing. On the other hand, if I was DT I would absolutely request a postponed wrestle-off just to mess with Downey - force him to have the discipline to keep training/peaking and having to make weight that much longer. Let him stew in his own saltiness and impatience, maybe he'll end up shooting himself in his own foot.

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13 hours ago, LJB said:

my thoughts are anyone who had an opinion previous to that match is not going to persuaded to change regardless...

good take

3 hours ago, olddirty said:

Do you really think being physical with a lock is a disgrace or do you just want a reason to hate Downy?

great take

41 minutes ago, LJB said:

this take is novak worthy...

i mean look who we're talking about here......

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A couple of weeks ago, I asked you guys whether or not I should root for this guy. I got my answer. I will not. I was only considering it because of his  "redemption" story and he doesnt seem redeemed (no matter what heflin did). 

There are some guys who seem like arrogant assholes off the mat but whose style is so compelling that you root for them anyway (Brands). There are some guys who seem like assholes on the mat but whose success is so compelling that you root for them anyway (Tsargush and ... err ... Brands). 

I don't like Downey's stompy plodding style on the mat and I don't see anything admirable about his off the mat character. So, I will be cheering for the other guy.

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PD3 currently having another mental breakdown on Twitter. That crackhead is actually calling out DC in MMA. Guess hes really trying to get his name out there before DT techs him 10-0 in the first period, again. And everyone loses interest in him, again. And he will blame it on his coaches or someone else, like he always does. 

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1 hour ago, pamela said:

Of course PD3 has been all over social media since WTTs - on Twitter alone, he's sent out close to 50 tweets following his match. 

Hah!  News to me,  I went and checked twitter and  PD3 has blocked me. This is ironic because I really like the guy and have been defending him.

PD3 criticized Askren for smiling after getting tech-falled by Burroughs.  I thought that was a cheap shot,  I tweeted Askren is 34 years old competing against a world champ,  PD3 will be a bouncer at a casino at 34.   PD3 deleted his own tweet and evidently blocked me.  

A guy who can dish it out ought to be able to take it.  Oh well, I still like the guy; like his wrestling, honesty and free spirit.

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27 minutes ago, jsmalls131313 said:

PD3 currently having another mental breakdown on Twitter. That crackhead is actually calling out DC in MMA. Guess hes really trying to get his name out there before DT techs him 10-0 in the first period, again. And everyone loses interest in him, again. And he will blame it on his coaches or someone else, like he always does. 

Sure as the sun rising in the East, PD3 will have an excuse when this happens. 

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Downey is talking up his hair now

Pat Downey Retweeted Joe Kania

word on street @kyledake444 & @magicman_psu seeking special wrestle offs.. they don’t wanna deal with the best hair in @USAWrestling @ringing57 ;) #GOONZ

 

A) Best hair is Ringer.

B) Downey is not going to ever beat a healthy Taylor, so pretty much anything is liable to happen to that hair before he beats DT. 

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39 minutes ago, tbert said:

Also slams back at Heflins apology to fans on twitter..

 

You gotta be kidding me.   Heflin's apology took no shot at Downey, it was just regret for whatever role he (Heflin) might have played.

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