tbert 560 Report post Posted May 20, 2019 Not kidding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madcat11 400 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 So I read all the “Heflin wouldn’t shake his hand,” comments.... Then I watched the video and he indeed wouldn’t.... until he did.... Am I missing something or was that just a really awesome story? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Plasmodium 1,545 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 On 5/20/2019 at 2:51 PM, bnwtwg said: He accused Taylor of EPO doping and ducking him earlier today. I hit the follow button so hard that I cracked my screen. I'm buckling up for the wild ride my twitter feed is about to go through A couple of people have said this. Did he tweet it? That is low unless he has some proof to share. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,579 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 38 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: A couple of people have said this. Did he tweet it? That is low unless he has some proof to share. His only "proof" is that TJ Dillashaw got caught with EPO on multiple tests, and DT flies out to CA to see the same nutritionist and exercise physiologist. Aaron Pico is a client as well, not that that matters to the wrestling world anymore. 2 Plasmodium and hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrDream 58 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Plasmodium said: A couple of people have said this. Did he tweet it? That is low unless he has some proof to share. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Someone speculated DT with PEDs!!?!?!?!?! No way!!!! What made them think that!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA on the irony of Americans getting defensive about "speculation". 1 hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 406 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, wrestlingnerd said: His only "proof" is that TJ Dillashaw got caught with EPO on multiple tests, and DT flies out to CA to see the same nutritionist and exercise physiologist. Aaron Pico is a client as well, not that that matters to the wrestling world anymore. Is that guy even an exercise physiologist? His literature refers to him as a world class mathematician! I think he is actually a high school match teacher. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,579 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, AHamilton said: Is that guy even an exercise physiologist? His literature refers to him as a world class mathematician! I think he is actually a high school match teacher. He is both. He teaches HS math. He also trains world class combat athletes. How that happened is beyond me, but he is extremely well-respected in MMA in particular. He prescribes both training regimens and diets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 390 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Plasmodium said: A couple of people have said this. Did he tweet it? That is low unless he has some proof to share. https://twitter.com/iAmPatDowney/status/1130507985267154945 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach_J 2,042 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 Water is wet! Cement is hard! Boobs are fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 406 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 38 minutes ago, wrestlingnerd said: He is both. He teaches HS math. He also trains world class combat athletes. How that happened is beyond me, but he is extremely well-respected in MMA in particular. He prescribes both training regimens and diets. I understand that he is respected. And likely is very good at what he does. But does he have a degree in physiology or nutrition? Or is he just well read and a polymath? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,579 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 I have no idea. Probably not or he would've detailed his academic credentials for all to see. As mentioned, how he went from math teacher to elite athletic coach is beyond me. His coaching business is https://www.treigninglab.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,430 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 what isn't math? biometrics... it's a thing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 406 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, LJB said: what isn't math? biometrics... it's a thing Not saying it isn't a real thing. But it still doesn't make him a nutritionist or physiologist by trade. I would like to see a degree or at least a certificate! Also,,, teaching AP math doesn't make you a world-class mathematician. He hasn't won the Fields Prize to my knowledge. I teach AP history... I'm pretty good, but not "world class" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,430 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 the only thing a degree or certificate says is that you can read and stick with something, which, you basically already said earlier... but, to be fair, he is a certified strength and conditioning coach, certified personal trainer, and certified ironman trainer... so, rest easy... he has several pieces of paper that says he knows something... and apparently, he runs what is known as the "TOUGHEST WRESTLING CAMP IN AMERICA" in montana... (insert FREE CANDY van pic here) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,579 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 I don't think any of the celebrity nutritionists (Callavita, Lockhart, Dolce, et. al.) who are making 7 figures in MMA has even a bachelor's degree in nutrition. It's an interesting phenomenon that highly paid pro athletes entrust their bodies to these folks, but some of them do get very good results. Maybe they're chemists and not nutritionists and PD3 is barking up the wrong tree but the right forest? You don't need a degree to be X, Y, or Z. The guy never claimed to be a certified or educated nutritionist. But he is, by trade, a nutritionist, among other things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,430 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 look what "scientists" and "nutritionists" did with the food pyramid back in the 70s... point being, going to school just to learn faulty knowledge spouted by the highest bidder is not he be all end all... results is the real proof and lots of the guys mentioned above have shown enough results to get some props... and some of them can back their results up with sound scientific data and not just "bro science"... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 406 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 I guess my point would be, without a degree or certificate of some kind, you would be much more liable if something went wrong for a litigious client. Also--- "bro science" is a concern of mine. I'm a Patriots fan, but I think Tom Brady's plan is ridiculous, despite his results. The same holds true for Dake's methods. I think Cornell's Clint Wattenberg, who does a LOT of nutrition for these guys, DOES have a nutrition degree of some sort. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHamilton 406 Report post Posted May 23, 2019 5 hours ago, LJB said: the only thing a degree or certificate says is that you can read and stick with something, which, you basically already said earlier... but, to be fair, he is a certified strength and conditioning coach, certified personal trainer, and certified ironman trainer... so, rest easy... he has several pieces of paper that says he knows something... and apparently, he runs what is known as the "TOUGHEST WRESTLING CAMP IN AMERICA" in montana... (insert FREE CANDY van pic here) Not only is it the toughest camp, it is widely known as the toughest camp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNorth 148 Report post Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, AHamilton said: Not only is it the toughest camp, it is widely known as the toughest camp. Link(s) to references? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,898 Report post Posted May 24, 2019 I can't believe this topic got off the subject of Downey calling out Taylor for PEDs.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJB 1,430 Report post Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: Link(s) to references? It’s a joke... please keep up... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNorth 148 Report post Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, LJB said: It’s a joke... please keep up... I'm looking for at least an image of a FREE CANDY van, if not something more creative. … sorry to get a little ahead of you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFBJR 374 Report post Posted May 24, 2019 On 5/20/2019 at 1:44 PM, TBar1977 said: Downey beat a guy who has zero offense by nearly the virtual minimum score of 2-0. I guess it could have been worse, like 1-0. Can't believe he was chest thumping over that win. Agreed. As I remember it, you handled your World Team Trials championship with grace and gravitas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmm53 467 Report post Posted May 24, 2019 Pat Downey is the poor man's Ben Askren. The chutzpah drools from his pie hole though he is without the talent to backup his chicanery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
