Jimmy Cinnabon 225 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 1. Long and lean, (e.g. Matt McDonough, Ben Darmstadt, Quentin Wright) 2. Compact and musclebound (e.g. Frank Molinaro, Zain Retherford, NATO, Kyle Snyder) 3. Jacked (e.g. Matt Brown, Mekhi Lewis, Alex Dieringer, Myles Martin) 4. Dad bod/chunky (e.g. Sam Stoll, Deuce Rachal, Vincenzo Joseph, Ben Askren) 5. Athletic but with no visible muscle definition (e.g. Jason Nolf, Bo Nickal, David Taylor, Cael) Edited June 6, 2019 by Jimmy Cinnabon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcatfan1992 47 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 The fact that you named national champs at each body type, that should tell you that there isn't a "best" body type. 8 1 Underhook, BallandChain, CoachWrestling and 6 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 225 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, wildcatfan1992 said: The fact that you named national champs at each body type, that should tell you that there isn't a "best" body type. But the distribution of champ isn't equal between the 5 categories. For instance, I would bet there are fewer dad bod champs than jacked champs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 701 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 I'd move Matt Brown to category 2. I'd also put Dieringer and Joseph in the same category and it wouldn't be "jacked". More like strong but not lean. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcatfan1992 47 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) There aren't many heavyweights that are "jacked", which is where you are most likely to find the supposed dad bod. So the vast majority of heavys will be of the dad bod variety. Cassar and White were the exceptions to that rule this year. Guys like Coon, Konrad, Mocco, etc are historically your typical heavyweight champs. But that may be changing with guys like Snyder, Cassar, Gable, Parris, Kerk, etc. Edited June 6, 2019 by wildcatfan1992 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 225 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Fletcher said: I'd move Matt Brown to category 2. I'd also put Dieringer and Joseph in the same category and it wouldn't be "jacked". More like strong but not lean. I disagree about Dieringer and Joseph being in the same category. Dierginer has always been shredded. Joseph is solid but I don't think I've seen any definition on him, ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDogg 273 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 Long arms is the single biggest advantage when it comes to how someone is built for wrestling. Every other type of build has its advantages and disadvantages. 2 CoachWrestling and Katie reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 225 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 Just now, MDogg said: Long arms is the single biggest advantage when it comes to how someone is built for wrestling. Every other type of build has its advantages and disadvantages. Best examples: Yianni, Ed Ruth, Burroughs...who else had freaky long arms? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckyBadger 11 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 In what world is Vincenzo Joseph in the Dad bod/chunky category? No way I’d group him with Askren or others that don’t look imposing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steamboat_charlie v2 939 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 This is the ideal male body. This is what peak performance looks like. 1 1 ConnorsDad and IfYouAin'tFirstYou'reLast reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie 730 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, MDogg said: Long arms is the single biggest advantage when it comes to how someone is built for wrestling. Every other type of build has its advantages and disadvantages. This is correct. 1 MDogg reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDogg 273 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Best examples: Yianni, Ed Ruth, Burroughs...who else had freaky long arms? Zain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ConnorsDad 570 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, MDogg said: Long arms is the single biggest advantage when it comes to how someone is built for wrestling. Every other type of build has its advantages and disadvantages. Dog, is there a reason, other than the obvious one of being able to reach legs from a further distance, that I am missing or is just getting to someone's legs that important? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 225 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, MDogg said: Zain I have never heard someone say Zain had long arms. Trolling? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,193 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 48 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: 1. Long and lean, (e.g. Matt McDonough, Ben Darmstadt, Quentin Wright) 2. Compact and musclebound (e.g. Frank Molinaro, Zain Retherford, NATO, Kyle Snyder) 3. Jacked (e.g. Matt Brown, Mekhi Lewis, Alex Dieringer, Myles Martin) 4. Dad bod/chunky (e.g. Sam Stoll, Deuce Rachal, Vincenzo Joseph, Ben Askren) 5. Athletic but with no visible muscle definition (e.g. Jason Nolf, Bo Nickal, David Taylor, Cael) Only 9 PSU guys come to mind? 1 MDogg reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 225 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, BuckyBadger said: In what world is Vincenzo Joseph in the Dad bod/chunky category? No way I’d group him with Askren or others that don’t look imposing. Edited June 6, 2019 by Jimmy Cinnabon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDogg 273 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, ConnorsDad said: Dog, is there a reason, other than the obvious one of being able to reach legs from a further distance, that I am missing or is just getting to someone's legs that important? Just as advantageous for defense in neutral, keeps opponent further from you and long arms makes it easier to defend lower shots. Also big advantage on top in folk (think tilts and cradles). Just look at how far JB keeps his opponents from his legs with all his head pushing. It’s virtually impossible to get to his legs from space. I’ve never seen anyone take advantage of their build as well as JB does. Cael being a close second. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,193 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 Vincento in the off-season? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie 730 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 57 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: 1. Long and lean, (e.g. Matt McDonough, Ben Darmstadt, Quentin Wright) 2. Compact and musclebound (e.g. Frank Molinaro, Zain Retherford, NATO, Kyle Snyder) 3. Jacked (e.g. Matt Brown, Mekhi Lewis, Alex Dieringer, Myles Martin) 4. Dad bod/chunky (e.g. Sam Stoll, Deuce Rachal, Vincenzo Joseph, Ben Askren) 5. Athletic but with no visible muscle definition (e.g. Jason Nolf, Bo Nickal, David Taylor, Cael) What were you daydreaming about before you posted this topic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDogg 273 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: I have never heard someone say Zain had long arms. Trolling? No...I’ve always thought he had long arms. Maybe not “freak” status like Yianni or JB but always thought it was noticeable. I don’t have wingspan data for him or anyone else so obviously just based on my eyeballs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LHU125 97 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 49 minutes ago, ConnorsDad said: Dog, is there a reason, other than the obvious one of being able to reach legs from a further distance, that I am missing or is just getting to someone's legs that important? Can't finish if you can't get to their legs so... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ConnorsDad 570 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, LHU125 said: Can't finish if you can't get to their legs so... As I said that was obvious but I was just wondering if there were other reasons that make it that important. I agree that I think it is. Edited June 6, 2019 by ConnorsDad Change Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 Who has the best hips? Cenzo, Marinelli, IMart, Dake? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 701 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 I'd rather have an opponent with long arms than one with powerful legs/hips. I dunno - maybe just personal style preference? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 225 Report post Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, pamela said: Who has the best hips? Cenzo, Marinelli, IMart, Dake? Dake > Marinelli > Cenzo > IMar Back 3rd of that is pretty easy. Marinelli has thrown Cenzo to his back multiple times, Cenzo has done the same to IMar. Edited June 6, 2019 by Jimmy Cinnabon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites