Askren advises Nickal should go U23

[PRyan2012 333]

Askren on his podcast yesterday advised Nickal should wrestle U23. He can challenge Max dean for the spot at 189?

[TBar1977 3,660]

Is this allowed? Is that even part of the rules? 

[ugarte 268]

yes. that's why they didn't confirm all U23 winners - eligible wrestlers who lose at Final X can challenge the U23 winners. Yianni, Fix and Deakin are all potential challengers too (and I may be leaving someone out).

[TBar1977 3,660]

Just now, ugarte said:

yes. that's why they didn't confirm all U23 winners - eligible wrestlers who lose at Final X can challenge the U23 winners. Yianni, Fix and Deakin are all potential challengers too (and I may be leaving someone out).

Thank you. 

 

[Mokoma 212]

4 minutes ago, ugarte said:

yes. that's why they didn't confirm all U23 winners - eligible wrestlers who lose at Final X can challenge the U23 winners. Yianni, Fix and Deakin are all potential challengers too (and I may be leaving someone out).

Gable?

[ugarte 268]

7 minutes ago, Mokoma said:

Gable?

yes, thanks.

[Full Nelson 62]

42 minutes ago, ugarte said:

yes. that's why they didn't confirm all U23 winners - eligible wrestlers who lose at Final X can challenge the U23 winners. Yianni, Fix and Deakin are all potential challengers too (and I may be leaving someone out).

The rule makes sense.  Nickal certainly should go U23.  The college guys - seems to me that year round wrestling is path to burnout.   They need some break before the grinding NCAA season.  Unless they make the big boys world team I'd say take a break.

[NJDan 491]

A lot of college guys  don't even want to accept a spot at u23s due to it conflicting with college classes and practice. But maybe Nickal will do it just so Penn State can get payback for Dake beating Taylor and (maybe) Yianni beating Retherford.

[nhs67 554]

I imagine the rule must be for whatever weight they wrestled Final X at...

Otherwise we could legit have Deakin(70) and Nickal(92) legit challenge Dean(86), right?

[TobusRex 1,652]

1 hour ago, Full Nelson said:

The rule makes sense.  Nickal certainly should go U23.  The college guys - seems to me that year round wrestling is path to burnout.   They need some break before the grinding NCAA season.  Unless they make the big boys world team I'd say take a break.

That's part of the reason I'm not upset that Spencer Lee has put his FS career on hiatus. The guy wrestled a full season in the toughest conference in the country, he needs a break.

[scribe 1,655]

He ain’t under 23

[ugarte 268]

36 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

I imagine the rule must be for whatever weight they wrestled Final X at...

Otherwise we could legit have Deakin(70) and Nickal(92) legit challenge Dean(86), right?

they can challenge at whatever weight they can make. not sure why nickal would go to 86 to challenge dean instead of staying at 92 to take on woodley. 

if yianni loses his appeal, i wonder if he goes after eierman's spot. i haven't heard anything about Steveson challenging Kirkvleit either.

[NJDan 491]

2 hours ago, scribe said:

He ain’t under 23

Definitive-- if true.

[simple 183]

He’s eligible by 14 days.

[hammerlockthree 1,658]

Nickel is too much of a big shot for u23! Most dangerous wrestler on the planet!

[Full Nelson 62]

25 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said:

Nickel is too much of a big shot for u23! Most dangerous wrestler on the planet!

I missed the big shot he scored against Cox.

I agree he is Mr. Excitement (unless you are being totally sarcastic.)

  Sure wish he was at a reasonable weight class and representing the U.S. on the world team.

Edited June 13, 2019 by Full Nelson

[hammerlockthree 1,658]

I was being sarcastic, probably uncalled for. 

I should have just said nickel is too full of himself and hope he doesn't beat me up. 

[de4856 351]

Well if it's true that Bo can challenge Dean for the spot, I would love to see it. I would also say that after watching Bo vs J'den last weekend at Final X, I am convinced that Bo should be at 86, and not at 92. Bo just did not have the horsepower to move J'den when he needed to. 

[KCMO2 561]

16 hours ago, NJDan said:

A lot of college guys  don't even want to accept a spot at u23s due to it conflicting with college classes and practice. But maybe Nickal will do it just so Penn State can get payback for Dake beating Taylor and (maybe) Yianni beating Retherford.

Bo's not a college guy.

[Ogalthorpe Haywood 272]

I’m thinking if Bo does take the wrestle off he will go 92, if he wanted a spot at 86 he would’ve went 86 for seniors.  Where he had more than a reasonable shot at making the team. 

[NJDan 491]

1 hour ago, KCMO2 said:

Bo's not a college guy.

That's true. So maybe he asks to wrestle for the spot. But I guess it would have to be at 92Kg. 

[steamboat_charlie v2 939]

I agree, he should go, this is hardly a tournament that's below him.  Also 92kg had a pretty strong field at U23 Euro's, and I expect a lot of those guys will show up to World's too.  

[ugarte 268]

14 hours ago, simple said:

He’s eligible by 14 days.

i hope they did the math right - last year machiavello won US U23 and then wasn't eligible for worlds

Edited June 13, 2019 by ugarte

[simple 183]

29 minutes ago, ugarte said:

i hope they did the math right - last year machiavello won US U23 and then wasn't eligible for worlds

All UWW says on their website is the person must have been born in 1996-2000. Bo was born January 1996

Edited June 13, 2019 by simple

[steamboat_charlie v2 939]

1 hour ago, ugarte said:

i hope they did the math right - last year machiavello won US U23 and then wasn't eligible for worlds

Rule is you can't turn 24 in the same year as the tournament.  Mach & co. thought you just had to be 23 during the actual tournament, which he would have been.