Pico TKO a few minutes ago

[Molsen 142]

Well its good to know Zain only lost to 0 time junior world champ pico, instead of Phenom Pico, over and over again. On the senior level (which trumps juniors) Pico made the finals of the Olympic team trials, which is better then most of those guys have done on the senior level. So basically, only 2 people on that list should be on that list, with Fix tbd. Pico losing to yazdani in the finals of worlds doesnt make him any less of a wrestler then any of the guys you mentioned, outside of Snyder, and Cox. But Cox started his domination on the senior circuit much later then picos attempt.

[boconnell 1,623]

It's amazing Pico inspires such debate. 

He was an exciting prospect years ago.  That's the end of his wrestling story.  

[Flying-Tiger 617]

1 hour ago, Molsen said:

Well its good to know Zain only lost to 0 time junior world champ pico, instead of Phenom Pico, over and over again. On the senior level (which trumps juniors) Pico made the finals of the Olympic team trials, which is better then most of those guys have done on the senior level. So basically, only 2 people on that list should be on that list, with Fix tbd. Pico losing to yazdani in the finals of worlds doesnt make him any less of a wrestler then any of the guys you mentioned, outside of Snyder, and Cox. But Cox started his domination on the senior circuit much later then picos attempt.

There are plenty of knowledgeable wrestling fans that believe wining Jr. Gold is extremely difficult and certainly harder then making a USA world team final. Then factor in how Pico essentially got a bye in the semis against a severely injured wrestler that tossed him around like a rag doll the previous time they met and I believe your opinion is rather dubious. But hey you keep hanging from Pico's jock because he beat Zain a few times back when Pico was essentially training as a professional while Zain was splitting time with folk style and going to college classes. 

Edited June 22, 2019 by Flying-Tiger

[Molsen 142]

33 minutes ago, Flying-Tiger said:

There are plenty of knowledgeable wrestling fans that believe wining Jr. Gold is extremely difficult and certainly harder then making a USA world team final. Then factor in how Pico essentially got a bye in the semis against a severely injured wrestler that tossed him around like a rag doll the previous time they met and I believe your opinion is rather dubious. But hey you keep hanging from Pico's jock because he beat Zain a few times back when Pico was essentially training as a professional while Zain was splitting time with folk style and going to college classes. 

Pico not getting a gold medal because of Yazdani doesn't make pico a worse wrestler then our other junior champs. Pico was elite for his age, and needed to be to beat Zain as much as he did. He was a great prospect, for MMA, and looked like he would have been representing us had he stuck with it. Its irrelevant because his management let him down, and rushed his whole career. Now whether they turn it around or not is a different question. Pico was better then you seem to be giving him credit for, but its stupid to argue, because he slowed down his wrestling growth by switching sports, so Zain has passed him. But to pretend Pico was just another wrestler and only made the Olympic trials finals because he got lucky, seems ridiculous. 

Edited June 22, 2019 by Molsen

[TBar1977 4,481]

1 hour ago, boconnell said:

It's amazing Pico inspires such debate. 

He was an exciting prospect years ago.  That's the end of his wrestling story.  

Pico is a phenom at getting wrestling fans to talk about his wresting phenomness.

[MSU158 1,978]

6 hours ago, Old Corps said:

^^^^

That’s a compelling argument, backed up by facts. 

Thanks!

Actually it’s a HORRIBLY thin argument based on cherry picked and very limited results including results from accomplishments of wrestlers after 19 in NCAA competition which Pico would forego to go straight into MMA.

 So, cadet gold doesn’t count. Junior Silver and Bronze, in back to back years, don’t count. Making the Olympic trial finals at 19 doesn’t count(while winning 1 out of 3 and actually out scoring his opponent). Senior level tournament medals while in High School don’t count.  But, freestyle and ncaa results AFTER 19 count for the other guys even though Pico stopped competing. 

Brilliant, compelling “facts”......

[dwkeller 17]

Yes, let's promote the talents of a man who decided not to go to college. Great example for our children. And then picks a career that requires multiple concussions to succeed.

Yea, I'm on board with that. See Johnny, what you can be when you grow up.

 

[Old Corps 174]

3 hours ago, MSU158 said:

Actually it’s a HORRIBLY thin argument based on cherry picked and very limited results including results from accomplishments of wrestlers after 19 in NCAA competition which Pico would forego to go straight into MMA.

 So, cadet gold doesn’t count. Junior Silver and Bronze, in back to back years, don’t count. Making the Olympic trial finals at 19 doesn’t count(while winning 1 out of 3 and actually out scoring his opponent). Senior level tournament medals while in High School don’t count.  But, freestyle and ncaa results AFTER 19 count for the other guys even though Pico stopped competing. 

Brilliant, compelling “facts”......

Consider switching to decaf. 

[Old Corps 174]

2 hours ago, dwkeller said:

Yes, let's promote the talents of a man who decided not to go to college. Great example for our children. And then picks a career that requires multiple concussions to succeed.

Yea, I'm on board with that. See Johnny, what you can be when you grow up.

 

^^^^

That’s not a compelling argument, and it is based more on emotions, pettiness and arrogance than facts. 

 

[MSU158 1,978]

36 minutes ago, Old Corps said:

^^^^

That’s not a compelling argument, and it is based more on emotions, pettiness and arrogance than facts. 

 

Irony?

[Old Corps 174]

17 hours ago, MSU158 said:

Irony?

Add daily mediation to the decaf. 

[MSU158 1,978]

20 minutes ago, Old Corps said:

Add daily mediation to the decaf. 

What topic would I be “mediating”? Or, if not I, what type of “mediator” should I seek?  I often deal in “mediation” through work, but I fail to see how it really fits into this topic...........sort of like your posts!  

[MSU158 1,978]

6 minutes ago, MSU158 said:

 

Edited June 23, 2019 by MSU158
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[Old Corps 174]

29 minutes ago, MSU158 said:

What topic would I be “mediating”? Or, if not I, what type of “mediator” should I seek?  I often deal in “mediation” through work, but I fail to see how it really fits into this topic...........sort of like your posts!  

You need a mediator to help you peacefully coexist with others who don’t share your opinions on Pico. 

Maybe we can recruit Minkel to be the mediator, since your personalities are similar and you hold him in high regard?

Don’t answer right away. 

Meditate.

You’ll find the right answer. 

[Dr. Novak 147]

Grammar is difficult for the unwashed.

[Old Corps 174]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Novak said:

Grammar is difficult for the unwashed.

^^^^

Wrote “Loch Haven” while making fun of someone’s Lock Haven degree. 

 

[Dr. Novak 147]

Not very bright.

[rod_frufit 11]

Pico is like a child actor, on a successful sitcom, a very good "youth" boxer and a very good "youth" wrestler, but couldn't win the big match or make it into mainstream Hollywood.  Super-talented kid, but (fill-in the blank)