qc8223 327 Report post Posted June 16 https://kstp.com/news/gable-steveson-dylan-martinez-criminal-investigation-for-sexual-conduct-golden-gophers-umn-u-of-m-wrestlers-june-16-2019/5391580/ yikes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjc007 504 Report post Posted June 16 Well this doesn't look good. Sent from my moto z3 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,550 Report post Posted June 16 I'm gonna need some details. This isn't good, but it could still be almost anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ConnorsDad 359 Report post Posted June 16 Holy **** batman! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treep2000 822 Report post Posted June 16 I hope this turns out to be nothing, but if its not, it's not surprising that yet another top Calibre guy thinks hes invincible and immune. Tis a shame if true, as this would detail his entire future, let alone career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misterc 34 Report post Posted June 16 Ouch, this could be bad. Terrible to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLS62pa 32 Report post Posted June 16 I hope things work out, but the fact that he was taken into custody does not bode well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,550 Report post Posted June 16 9 minutes ago, treep2000 said: I hope this turns out to be nothing, but if its not, it's not surprising that yet another top Calibre guy thinks hes invincible and immune. Tis a shame if true, as this would detail his entire future, let alone career. This is why hero worship makes me sick. It's at an all time high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qc8223 327 Report post Posted June 16 32 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: I'm gonna need some details. This isn't good, but it could still be almost anything. Not sure what you mean by "almost anything." He was arrested for an alleged sexual assault after a 911 call reporting the incident. He could be innocent, but it's not like there are a wide range of possibilities of what happened. It's not going to come out that he was picked up for jaywalking or public intoxication. He either committed sexual assault or he didn't. If you're implying that not all forms of sexual assault are serious, I think you should do some re-evaluating. Doesn't look good for him regardless as this will probably follow him for a while no matter how it shakes out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simple 165 Report post Posted June 16 Hope it’s a a mistake and he’s a better person than that. This would set the Gophers “comeback” back a long time. It also could and maybe should cost Eggum his job. Another scandal involving multiple wrestlers so soon after claiming to rebuild based on character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,550 Report post Posted June 16 (edited) 4 minutes ago, qc8223 said: Not sure what you mean by "almost anything." He was arrested for an alleged sexual assault after a 911 call reporting the incident. He could be innocent, but it's not like there are a wide range of possibilities of what happened. It's not going to come out that he was picked up for jaywalking or public intoxication. He either committed sexual assault or he didn't. If you're implying that not all forms of sexual assault are serious, I think you should do some re-evaluating. Doesn't look good for him regardless as this will probably follow him for a while no matter how it shakes out. Let's say his former girlfriend had a few drinks, went to his place, stuff goes down, she goes right to the cops. I have no reason to think that's what happened, but as we are an hour into this scandal, it seems the appropriate thing to do is wait as opposed to pretending I understand whats going on. Edited June 16 by hammerlockthree 1 cjc007 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheerstress 70 Report post Posted June 16 At 1:17, the newscast mentions someone being the victim of a "sex crime with an object," which could mean a lot of different things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 1,699 Report post Posted June 16 (edited) The burden of proof for Title IX investigations is generally less than criminal prosecution. Let's see if charges are brought first, but whether or not he goes to jail, he very well may be done wrestling for Minnesota. And that very well may be deserved-but we shall see what the charges are (if any). Edited June 16 by Billyhoyle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crash 90 Report post Posted June 16 Innocent until proven guilty.Duke Lacrosse.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 spladle08 and Ultimatepip reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbert 559 Report post Posted June 16 It could be a lot of things but false report or mis identification are the only 2 good ones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qc8223 327 Report post Posted June 16 6 minutes ago, Billyhoyle said: The burden of proof for Title IX investigations is generally less than criminal prosecution. Let's see if charges are brought first, but whether or not he goes to jail, he very well may be done wrestling for Minnesota. And that very well may be deserved-but we shall see what the charges are (if any). Him being done at Minnesota (and maybe all college wrestling) seems likely, especially with the current crackdown on sexual assault on college campuses (a positive development imo). Athletic administrations have been quick to act on this issue recently. If formal charges are in fact filed, I don't think there's much chance Gable suits up this year even if he ends up being found innocent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie 615 Report post Posted June 17 At this point almost nothing is publicly known. So there’s nothing to say right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GockeS 245 Report post Posted June 17 1 hour ago, treep2000 said: I hope this turns out to be nothing, but if its not, it's not surprising that yet another top Calibre guy thinks hes invincible and immune. Tis a shame if true, as this would detail his entire future, let alone career. or someone out to make a buck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoNotQuietly 719 Report post Posted June 17 (edited) His family lawyer: "He's a good kid, and a good athlete". What the hell does him being a good athlete have to do with anything? Edited June 17 by GoNotQuietly 2 pawrestler and dtry222 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,550 Report post Posted June 17 (edited) can you reference the quote please? I find it hard to believe his lawyer was stupid enough to imply he should get away with something because he is athletic. Edited June 17 by hammerlockthree 1 madcat11 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoNotQuietly 719 Report post Posted June 17 1 minute ago, hammerlockthree said: can you reference the quote please? 4th paragraph of the link in the OP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ConnorsDad 359 Report post Posted June 17 1 hour ago, qc8223 said: Not sure what you mean by "almost anything." He was arrested for an alleged sexual assault after a 911 call reporting the incident. He could be innocent, but it's not like there are a wide range of possibilities of what happened. It's not going to come out that he was picked up for jaywalking or public intoxication. He either committed sexual assault or he didn't. If you're implying that not all forms of sexual assault are serious, I think you should do some re-evaluating. Doesn't look good for him regardless as this will probably follow him for a while no matter how it shakes out. No, alleged criminal sexual conduct. Not sexual assault. 1 MDogg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,550 Report post Posted June 17 1 minute ago, GoNotQuietly said: 4th paragraph of the link in the OP My bad. Regardless I don't think thats gonna be the closing statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 371 Report post Posted June 17 56 minutes ago, qc8223 said: Him being done at Minnesota (and maybe all college wrestling) seems likely, especially with the current crackdown on sexual assault on college campuses (a positive development imo). Athletic administrations have been quick to act on this issue recently. If formal charges are in fact filed, I don't think there's much chance Gable suits up this year even if he ends up being found innocent. If it’s just for this year, can he redshirt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,550 Report post Posted June 17 U of M isn't going to resolve this issue based on his eligibility. This is politics through and through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites