yonz_g 37 Report post Posted June 25 3 hours ago, wildcatfan1992 said: Indiana has very little international success, so it limits us to pretty much HS and college. Angel Escobedo Andrew Howe They are the top 2. The next two could be any of the following: Reece Humphrey Sarah Hildebrandt (world silver) Nick Lee (depends how he finishes up) Jason Tsirtsis Kelvin Jackson (NCAA champ at Mich st) Alex Tsirtsis Brayton Lee and Mason Parris could throw themselves in the mix in the next 3-4 years One to keep an eye on just finished his freshman year in HS, Jesse Mendez, currently ranked #2 in the country in his weight class and made the world team this year. He has a chance to be one of Indiana's best ever. Stevan Micic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CA_Wrestler 184 Report post Posted June 25 Top 4: Dave Schultz Mark Schultz Jake Varner Stephen Abas Honorable mention: Chris Pendleton, Eric Guerrero, Joe Gonzales, John Azevedo, Zahid Valencia, Isaiah Martinez, Jesse Delgado, Marty Kistler, Stephen Neal, Dan and Adam Cuestas 2 goStanford18 and GoNotQuietly reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSUSMC 58 Report post Posted June 25 35 minutes ago, CA_Wrestler said: Honorable mention: Chris Pendleton, Eric Guerrero, Joe Gonzales, John Azevedo, Zahid Valencia, Isaiah Martinez, Jesse Delgado, Marty Kistler, Stephen Neal, Dan and Adam Cuestas + David Lee (1st 3 time CA HS State Champ, NCAA DI Champ, multi-time NCAA DI AA), Greg Gibson (World freestyle and Olympic Greco medals, 2X NCAA finalist), Darrell Vasquez (1st 4x CA HS State Champ, multi-time NCAA DI AA) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDogg 123 Report post Posted June 25 21 hours ago, bnwtwg said: At least you kept it to 4, unlike OP. Illinois: FS: Joe Williams_____ <-------that's the big gap, Sean Bormet? Tony Douglas? GR: Current world team is a good start :D but little to choose from when it comes to World accolades :( Is Joe Williams the only world senior freestyle medalist from Illinois in the past 40 years? If so that’s sad...USA has won 68 senior freestyle medals since 1995. I know there are guys like Terry McCann who won Olympic gold in 1960 but I’m talking in most posters lifetimes. Anyway my Mount Rushmore of Illinois NCAA wrestlers (past 40 years) would be: Joe Williams TJ Williams Matt Lackey Tony Ramos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 98 Report post Posted June 25 Eric Tannabaum was the chosen one from IL, we came up around the same time and he was a Fargo champ back when that was *the* tournarment. Came back to watch IL state one year - Mike Benefiel and Albert White were the two next great ones that apparently never happened. I peeked a few minutes ago, and turns out IL high school is pretty good at freestyle and greco, with quite a few GR national team members. Going back to 1999 when I started HS it was all takedowns and cuts, so surprising to see that GR is the most successful style. Also proves that IL is myeh unfortunately Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CA_Wrestler 184 Report post Posted June 25 57 minutes ago, PSUSMC said: + David Lee (1st 3 time CA HS State Champ, NCAA DI Champ, multi-time NCAA DI AA), Greg Gibson (World freestyle and Olympic Greco medals, 2X NCAA finalist), Darrell Vasquez (1st 4x CA HS State Champ, multi-time NCAA DI AA) I don't think Vasquez belongs there. Morgan McIntosh had a slightly better career(HS+college) even though Vasquez was the first to win 4 state titles. I would put Anthony Valencia over Vasquez and McIntosh just because Valencia has done infinitely more at BIG HS national tournaments(Ironman) folkstyle/freestyle national teams/world team(cadet/jr/sr). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcatfan1992 47 Report post Posted June 25 2 hours ago, yonz_g said: Stevan Micic? Yes! My bad leaving him off the list. Should definitely be on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jchapman 654 Report post Posted June 25 2 hours ago, MDogg said: Is Joe Williams the only world senior freestyle medalist from Illinois in the past 40 years? If so that’s sad...USA has won 68 senior freestyle medals since 1995. I know there are guys like Terry McCann who won Olympic gold in 1960 but I’m talking in most posters lifetimes. Anyway my Mount Rushmore of Illinois NCAA wrestlers (past 40 years) would be: Joe Williams TJ Williams Matt Lackey Tony Ramos Dan Dennis over Ramos? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Morgan 13 Report post Posted June 25 (edited) 20 hours ago, headshuck said: http://mspmag.com/arts-and-culture/get-in-the-ring-how-minnesota-wrestling-crushed-the-world/ I'll give it a try...Verne Gagne, Larry the axe henning, the Hulk, Baron Von Raschke, Mad Dog Vachon, Nick Bockwinkle, Ray The Crippler Stevens, The Crusher, Marty O'Neill, Jim Gagne, Jim Brunzel, Jesse Ventura, Man Mountain Mike, Adrian Adonis, Wally Karbo...Missing is my uncle Red Bastien...also from Minnesota. Edited June 25 by John Morgan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDogg 123 Report post Posted June 25 33 minutes ago, jchapman said: Dan Dennis over Ramos? Yes head to head in freestyle but not in folkstyle/NCAA resume. Ramos went DNP-3-2-1 vs Dennis at DNQ-DNQ-5-2. The year Ramos didn’t place he was still 25-6 and 3rd in Big Tens. I’d probably go Steve Marianetti at 4...Eric Siebert and Adam Tirapelle also in the mix. I personally think Mike Poeta is probably the 4th best NCAA wrestler from Illinois but I admit the resume doesn’t back that up. He’s my #1 pick for best college wrestler not to win an NCAA title in the past 20 years regardless of state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbert 527 Report post Posted June 25 (edited) 52 minutes ago, John Morgan said: I'll give it a try...Verne Gagne, Larry the axe henning, the Hulk, Baron Von Raschke, Mad Dog Vachon, Nick Bockwinkle, Ray The Crippler Stevens, The Crusher, Marty O'Neill, Jim Gagne, Jim Brunzel, Jesse Ventura, Man Mountain Mike, Adrian Adonis, Wally Karbo...Missing is my uncle Red Bastien...also from Minnesota. Might be the Crusher, but he is not from Minnesota. I think Greg Gagne and Kurt Hennig are in pic. Edited June 25 by tbert Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katie 562 Report post Posted June 25 (edited) 10 hours ago, wildcatfan1992 said: Indiana has very little international success, so it limits us to pretty much HS and college. Angel Escobedo Andrew Howe They are the top 2. The next two could be any of the following: Reece Humphrey Sarah Hildebrandt (world silver) Nick Lee (depends how he finishes up) Jason Tsirtsis Kelvin Jackson (NCAA champ at Mich st) Alex Tsirtsis Brayton Lee and Mason Parris could throw themselves in the mix in the next 3-4 years One to keep an eye on just finished his freshman year in HS, Jesse Mendez, currently ranked #2 in the country in his weight class and made the world team this year. He has a chance to be one of Indiana's best ever. As far as NCAA wrestling goes, the top four from Indiana would probably be Charles McDaniel (2x champ), Howe, Escobedo, and J. Tsirtsis. Edited June 26 by Katie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadrunnerPride 22 Report post Posted June 26 Kyle Snyder, Lloyd Keaser, Kelly Ward, Helen Maroulis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoNotQuietly 702 Report post Posted June 26 Kyle Dake: World Champ, 4x NCAA champ, 2x NYS Champ Troy Nickerson : NCAA Champ, 5x NYS Champ, Head Coach U Northern Colorado NIck Gwiazdowski: 2X World Bronze, 2X NCAA Champ, 2X NYS Champ Carl Adams: World 5th, 2X NCAA Champ, Head Coach of Boston University, Wrestling Hall of Fame: Distinguished Member Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lu_alum 602 Report post Posted June 26 (edited) I don't think someone from PA could answer this question. We need an extra mountain (or two). Edited June 26 by lu_alum 1 GockeS reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestlingbcpc 12 Report post Posted June 26 24 minutes ago, GoNotQuietly said: Kyle Dake: World Champ, 4x NCAA champ, 2x NYS Champ Troy Nickerson : NCAA Champ, 5x NYS Champ, Head Coach U Northern Colorado NIck Gwiazdowski: 2X World Bronze, 2X NCAA Champ, 2X NYS Champ Carl Adams: World 5th, 2X NCAA Champ, Head Coach of Boston University, Wrestling Hall of Fame: Distinguished Member Tough to leave the Banach brothers out. One was our Olympic rep in 84 I believe, ncaa champ, aa. Possibly him over Nickerson? 1 GockeS reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 1,445 Report post Posted June 26 33 minutes ago, lu_alum said: I don't think someone from PA could answer this question. We need an extra mountain (or two). you're a tool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTG119 764 Report post Posted June 26 23 minutes ago, Wrestlingbcpc said: Tough to leave the Banach brothers out. One was our Olympic rep in 84 I believe, ncaa champ, aa. Possibly him over Nickerson? Ed and Lou both won gold medals in ‘84. Ed was a 3 time NCAA champ and Lou won 2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestlingbcpc 12 Report post Posted June 26 8 minutes ago, KTG119 said: Ed and Lou both won gold medals in ‘84. Ed was a 3 time NCAA champ and Lou won 2. Good research -facts. Thanks. Those stats are big time. The brothers who wrestled for Gable were animals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cradle1 144 Report post Posted June 26 On 6/24/2019 at 8:45 PM, silvermedal said: Assuming we are only picking four, Ohio's might be: Lee Kemp---Ohio's most accomplished international competitor Logan Stieber--One of the finest preps in US history and an accomplished international competitor Bobby Douglas--Accomplished competitor and ground breaking collegiate coach including an NCAA title at Arizona State and the finest collegiate competitor in history, Cael Sanderson Mike Milkovich--Most influential prep coach in Ohio history and certainly one of the finest in the nation during his era. Lee Kemp, David Taylor, Logan Stieber, and either Douglas or Milkovich for the final spot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 111 Report post Posted June 26 17 hours ago, CA_Wrestler said: Top 4: Dave Schultz Mark Schultz Jake Varner Stephen Abas Honorable mention: Chris Pendleton, Eric Guerrero, Joe Gonzales, John Azevedo, Zahid Valencia, Isaiah Martinez, Jesse Delgado, Marty Kistler, Stephen Neal, Dan and Adam Cuestas Pretty hard not to have Stephen Neal up there....2 time NCAA Champion, 4 time All-American, undefeated last 2 years, World Champion and FILA International Freestyle Wrestler of the Year, played with the New England Patriots 10 years and has 3 Super Bowl rings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,002 Report post Posted June 26 1 minute ago, fadzaev2 said: Pretty hard not to have Stephen Neal up there....2 time NCAA Champion, 4 time All-American, undefeated last 2 years, World Champion and FILA International Freestyle Wrestler of the Year, played with the New England Patriots 10 years and has 3 Super Bowl rings. He didn't win state in HS, so he is disqualified. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 111 Report post Posted June 26 (edited) . Edited June 26 by fadzaev2 wanted to delete Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 111 Report post Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: He didn't win state in HS, so he is disqualified. Oh...OK....LOL 1 Plasmodium reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 111 Report post Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, fadzaev2 said: Oh...OK....LOL I just changed the rules. 1 GockeS reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
