John Morgan 36 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 We practice in shorts and T-shirts, when warming up we are in shorts, now we compete in them. I think the look appears too casual vs a more formal/official look for competition. 1 gowrestle reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,022 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 It is way more appealing to young wrestlers and to fans. I still don’t understand why anyone is against it. It will not negatively impact matches in the long run. Possibly there will be some issues in year 1 with grabbing shorts and the like, but guys are used to wrestling people in shorts in practice. 2 Ultimatepip and pamela reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,022 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, John Morgan said: We practice in shorts and T-shirts, when warming up we are in shorts, now we compete in them. I think the look appears too casual vs a more formal/official look for competition. I think the formal issue is resolved with matching uniforms. It gives more real estate to designers and they can be more creative with the bottoms Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 728 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Housebuye said: It is way more appealing to young wrestlers and to fans. I still don’t understand why anyone is against it. It will not negatively impact matches in the long run. Possibly there will be some issues in year 1 with grabbing shorts and the like, but guys are used to wrestling people in shorts in practice. Yeah I think people arguing against shorts in college are saying that these wrestlers don't care, which I'm sure is true. But in college it's probably more about gaining more fans, whereas high school it's more about gaining more wrestlers. Edited June 28, 2019 by 1032004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Novak 147 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Housebuye said: It is way more appealing to young wrestlers and to fans Laughable how this is believed to be true. 4 Bryan, gowrestle, jchapman and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan 49 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 What will be the first lower tier program that transitions to shorts & shirt to try and create fan interest? Will any of the Top 10 teams do this on a consistent basis? I can see several teams do it for one special match just to mix things up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcoates1 154 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Dr. Novak said: Laughable how this is believed to be true. Have you never talked to middle school kids? That’s their number one complaint. It’s laughable how ignorant you are. 11 Relentless125, Yellow_Medal, Housebuye and 8 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unbiased 462 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 This isn't middle school. College kids don't need shorts. Middle school kids will just come up with a different excuse now. 3 GockeS, Dr. Novak and cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Novak 147 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 It's an old canard passed down the lane. Not even close to being a serious complaint but some insist on dragging it out. 1 cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 616 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 Singlets look ridiculous and any functional advantage they have are negligible (otherwise MMA guys would wear them). Other than getting pants-ed, there's no downside to shorts and this is a move in the right direction. Hopefully, all teams will follow suit. 6 Relentless125, pamela, tightwaist and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 728 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Bryan said: What will be the first lower tier program that transitions to shorts & shirt to try and create fan interest? Will any of the Top 10 teams do this on a consistent basis? I can see several teams do it for one special match just to mix things up. I was more thinking it could help NCAA viewership. Every time I've tried to watch them on ESPN with friends they make a comment about singlets. Although I guess for it to really make a difference a lot of teams would have to switch (well maybe just PSU...) 1 pamela reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chet 31 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, John Morgan said: We practice in shorts and T-shirts, when warming up we are in shorts, now we compete in them. I think the look appears too casual vs a more formal/official look for competition. Even singlets are too causal nowadays. Bring back the diaper singlets! And the bathrobes! 1 Yellow_Medal reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Bryan said: What will be the first lower tier program that transitions to shorts & shirt to try and create fan interest? Will any of the Top 10 teams do this on a consistent basis? I can see several teams do it for one special match just to mix things up. I could see one of the D1 power programs giving it a go, mostly bc their athletic depts have big contracts with apparel companies who are always looking for incremental brand & revenue opportunities at their schools. Could be a way to brand a new type of short for schools and sell lookalikes to fans as workout shorts or “athleisure”. 1 backpack reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan 49 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 56 minutes ago, Chet said: Even singlets are too causal nowadays. Bring back the diaper singlets! And the bathrobes! Bring back the unlimited weight classification! Let's get the real big boys on the mat again. 4 KingK0ng, Sheerstress, MDogg and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okwrestle 19 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Chet said: Even singlets are too causal nowadays. Bring back the diaper singlets! And the bathrobes! Gary Barton from Clarion looks like a cast member of the Walking Dead and Peterson reminds me of Lurch :) 1 1 Chet and Bryan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jchapman 1,013 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, 1032004 said: I was more thinking it could help NCAA viewership. Every time I've tried to watch them on ESPN with friends they make a comment about singlets. Although I guess for it to really make a difference a lot of teams would have to switch (well maybe just PSU...) Who are your friends? I mean, what is their demographic? 1 Mphillips reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,328 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 You rang! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jchapman 1,013 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Fletcher said: Singlets look ridiculous and any functional advantage they have are negligible (otherwise MMA guys would wear them). Other than getting pants-ed, there's no downside to shorts and this is a move in the right direction. Hopefully, all teams will follow suit. So we should go with the speedo and shirtless look, because MMA does it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fletcher 616 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, jchapman said: So we should go with the speedo and shirtless look, because MMA does it? Just referenced MMA with regard to functionality; nobody wants to see shirtless heavyweights. Best solution is shorts and compression top; except for heavyweights who will wear either medical scrubs or graduation gowns. 1 backpack reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) If we do a cost benefit analysis of this, we are sacrificing nothing by making this change. It will have zero effect in the way matches play out. Even if it only gets a few more kids out every year or results in a more positive appearance to a handful of outsiders and casual fans, wouldnt it be worth it? Edited June 29, 2019 by russelscout 5 Eagle26, Jaroslav Hasek, MDogg and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,022 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Dr. Novak said: Laughable how this is believed to be true. Compelling stuff. Have you ever been involved in a youth wrestling program? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,022 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Dr. Novak said: It's an old canard passed down the lane. Not even close to being a serious complaint but some insist on dragging it out. What are you basing your claims on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,655 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 11 hours ago, rcoates1 said: Have you never talked to middle school kids? His probation officer won't allow it. 4 2 backpack, Eagle26, JasonBryant and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim L 220 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 Do you need any more argument against the singlet? 2 1 1 scribe, Chet, Yellow_Medal and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim L 220 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 If you don't think middle School kids are uncomfortable with their bodies go to a middle school track meet, almost all will wear a tee shirt under the standard tank top. I don't think this is a new thing. I remember wearing basketball uniforms and hating the tank top and wishing I could wear a tee shirt like Patrick Ewing did at Georgetown. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
