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From themat article it seems that the rationale was that the challenge was improperly accepted.  Others read it that way?  Fair to say that the conclusion is that 40+ seconds is not considered ‘immediate’?  

If so, rational minds prevailed.  Thank goodness precedent has NOT been set that bricks can be thrown so far after the points go up.  The gaming and hail Mary’s would have been unbearable.  

Kinda sucks that this all played out this way.  

I do hope Zain is feeling good to go.  May the best wrestler win.

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The summary of the ruling implies that the brick was accepted purely to challenge the  merits of the 2+2 score, and the video review changed the score. Right or wrong, the decision to accept the brick 30 seconds after the score was posted was an officiating error. In effect, the ruling on the mat isn't the video review, it's the ruling on the mat unless you make a timely challenge.

The issue of the chair improperly agreeing with both the refs 2 and the judge's 2 appears not to have been relevant because the officials did not undertake a review of the allegedly improper scoring process on their own; it was the challenge brick that initiated the review. Yianni's brick wasn't accepted because you can't ask for a video review of a video review.

Next steps are a wild goddamn matchup and what probably isn't next is a Cornell - Penn State dual.

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Favoring anybody to get a bronze means you think they can make the semi-finals or  you are counting on them getting drawn into a bracket with someone who's going to make the finals. Obviously the second is lunacy. Here are just the ones who should be favored over either guy IMO: Bajrang, Aliev, Chakaev, Khinch, Otaguro & Tobier. Also, the current rankings have 3 of these guys separated and not to meet till the semi's along with the Turkish guy whose name I can't remember. Either one of our guys is talented enough but they are definitely not favored to bring home a medal.

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12 minutes ago, fightingsioux said:

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At least Joseph was smart enough to bring up a freestyle match.

Seems an easy solution for the future here (which I know has been mentioned in these threads) is to add bad time like in folkstyle.

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At least Joseph was smart enough to bring up a freestyle match.
Seems an easy solution for the future here (which I know has been mentioned in these threads) is to add bad time like in folkstyle.
Isn't it the last time he wrestled freestyle? Like 8 years ago?

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This is a bad precedent, but will teach one additional lesson, rather strongly... DON'T allow the match to be decided by the ref.  If the match is kept that close, then this is the potential outcome.  Don't like the outcome, don't wrestle that type of match.  Win big, lose big, or hand it to Mr. Ref.  

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This is a bad precedent, but will teach one additional lesson, rather strongly... DON'T allow the match to be decided by the ref.  If the match is kept that close, then this is the potential outcome.  Don't like the outcome, don't wrestle that type of match.  Win big, lose big, or hand it to Mr. Ref.  


Making up the rules is a bad precedent.

Remember when Carl blasted FILA over the Gomez fiasco at World's?

He was correct then as the arbitration is correct now.

No one wants the refs to screw an athlete.

But at least you have an avenue to dispute bogus officials.

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13 minutes ago, treep2000 said:

This is a bad precedent, but will teach one additional lesson, rather strongly... DON'T allow the match to be decided by the ref.  If the match is kept that close, then this is the potential outcome.  Don't like the outcome, don't wrestle that type of match.  Win big, lose big, or hand it to Mr. Ref.  

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14 minutes ago, treep2000 said:

This is a bad precedent, but will teach one additional lesson, rather strongly... DON'T allow the match to be decided by the ref.  If the match is kept that close, then this is the potential outcome.  Don't like the outcome, don't wrestle that type of match.  Win big, lose big, or hand it to Mr. Ref.  

That’s a hell of a lot easier said than done. We’re talking about two world class athletes, both with age group world championships just breaking into senior level, who know each other very well. You act like they stood and danced for six minutes. Just stop. 

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Bronze?
Yeah with the depth of the weight I dont see either being "favored" to medal. They are both in that 10th-15th ranked area.
Given a good draw either could place as high as second. But given a lesser draw either could end the tourney 0 and 1

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1 hour ago, ugarte said:

The summary of the ruling implies that the brick was accepted purely to challenge the  merits of the 2+2 score, and the video review changed the score. Right or wrong, the decision to accept the brick 30 seconds after the score was posted was an officiating error. In effect, the ruling on the mat isn't the video review, it's the ruling on the mat unless you make a timely challenge.

The issue of the chair improperly agreeing with both the refs 2 and the judge's 2 appears not to have been relevant because the officials did not undertake a review of the allegedly improper scoring process on their own; it was the challenge brick that initiated the review. Yianni's brick wasn't accepted because you can't ask for a video review of a video review.

Next steps are a wild goddamn matchup and what probably isn't next is a Cornell - Penn State dual.

I agree that this is what the ruling basically says. 

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49 minutes ago, treep2000 said:

This is a bad precedent, but will teach one additional lesson, rather strongly... DON'T allow the match to be decided by the ref.  If the match is kept that close, then this is the potential outcome.  Don't like the outcome, don't wrestle that type of match.  Win big, lose big, or hand it to Mr. Ref.  

That lesson was taught when the match happened.

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