Dake-Dieringer live thread

[whaletail 220]

4 minutes ago, Abdullahgadzhi Khuzin said:

Alex Dieringer needs to get citizenship from some weak wrestling country like Panama or Barbados, he'll be able to represent this country in the world properly!

He'd probably make a nice chunk of change as well.

I'm surprised it's not more common.

[fightingsioux 51]

Best man won, but that was a long time coming and a long way to travel for 6 minutes of wrestling with one interesting sequence.

[spladle 179]

Booooring!  Forgive my ambivilence but this year I just don't care if he medals or not.

[AnklePicker 628]

14 minutes ago, sidakova4991 said:

Sooooo, I guess USA is a lock at 79kg.  

No, don’t know why flo keeps saying that but our chances aren’t bad. 

[Cradle1 270]

51 minutes ago, tbert said:

Yea what he has done for years ...stall

Nailed it.  In Particular, I felt like he stalled his way through worlds last year.  You know, when he outscored his opponents 37-0.

[KCMO2 663]

13 minutes ago, whaletail said:

Once he was up 4-0, I was hoping Dake would start opening up.  

In freestyle why in the world would you open up when you're up 4-0?  When you open up you expose yourself some too, and one 4 pointer and Ringer wins.  He did exactly what he should have up 4-0 in a do or die series.

[AnklePicker 628]

1 minute ago, spladle said:

Booooring!  Forgive my ambivilence but this year I just don't care if he medals or not.

Yeah he was real boring vs the Russian last year. Dake was certainly more exciting in those matches than dieringer. 

[AnklePicker 628]

Can we give a shout out to the crowd?  Matches weren’t exciting but they turned out. Nice job by flo filling the place. 

[Plasmodium 2,054]

Dake's left leg looked smaller than his right one.  What was injury? Ordinarily, that doesn't happen with an ACL.

[whaletail 220]

4 minutes ago, AnklePicker said:

No, don’t know why flo keeps saying that but our chances aren’t bad. 

With Gadhzi injured, no one at 79 has even come close to beating Dake (or Dieringer, for that matter). I'd never call anything a lock, but Dake will probably be the biggest favorite, betting or otherwise, at Worlds.  It's a weak weight made even weaker with Gadhzi's injury, and Dake's really good.

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[jon 158]

Just now, AnklePicker said:

Can we give a shout out to the crowd?  Matches weren’t exciting but they turned out. Nice job by flo filling the place. 

Flo selected the place. Flo didn't fill the place. Plus it's the small gymnasium not even the big one lol.

[AnklePicker 628]

Just now, jon said:

Flo selected the place. Flo didn't fill the place. Plus it's the small gymnasium not even the big one lol.

Ok well whoever deserves credit should get it. They filled a small gym for 12 minutes of wrestling. 

[whaletail 220]

6 minutes ago, spladle said:

Booooring!  Forgive my ambivilence but this year I just don't care if he medals or not.

Ambivalence would mean you can't decide whether you want him to medal or not.

I think the word you want is apathy.

[ToneLoc 5]

Dake is just a really complete wrestler. Incredible strength and flexibility. Can easily tech guys that aren’t the absolute best. But then his strategy and execution is absolutely top notch in the big matches. This match reminded me of the Dake/Taylor college matchups. So much excitement/hype and then within moments of it starting you can tell Dake’s going to win.

[tbert 561]

17 minutes ago, NJDan said:

Very odd, but Ringer too one shot in 12 minutes-- at the end of the first period in Match 1-- and Dake scored on that.

tought to shoot against someone backing up faster than you are going forward 

[fightingsioux 51]

24 minutes ago, boconnell said:

Name of the game is to score more points than your opponent.  There are two primary ways to do that.  One is to score and Dake is not always great at that.  The other is to not let the other guy score and Dake is an all-time great at that.  Hopefully he brings home gold.  

This says it all. "Name of the game is to score more points." Yes, Dake backs up a lot. But he's world class at analyzing his opponent beforehand, figuring out a winning strategy, then executing that strategy.

[sidakova4991 68]

10 minutes ago, AnklePicker said:

No, don’t know why flo keeps saying that but our chances aren’t bad. 

I can't think of anybody who can beat Dake at 79 right now, even Nabiev (our representative at 79) isn't that great and Dake should run over him.

[Mphillips 1,346]

Just now, fightingsioux said:

This says it all. "Name of the game is to score more points." Yes, Dake backs up a lot. But he's world class at analyzing his opponent beforehand, figuring out a winning strategy, then executing that strategy.

Must be that Cornell superior education at all levels.

[RJChicago 14]

To stifle Dieringer's offense to that level, where Dieringer didn't even seem to have any idea how to adapt to create opportunities to score on Dake for most of both matches, it does seem that Dake/Cornell significantly out-strategized Ringer and his team, or at least had a schematic edge today at least. Which after the classless behavior of Koll, calling referee's hungover and faulting them for taking naps between sessions many hours before they were due to officiate a match, it pains me to say that they out-strategized anyone - but today, at least, Dake and his team seemed to have a schematic edge.

[fightingsioux 51]

8 minutes ago, Mphillips said:

Must be that Cornell superior education at all levels.

Maybe, but then why isn't Harvard 100X NCAA team champion?  :-)

[Savage74 23]

at least Deringer doesn’t have to peak twice in a short period time.

on the other hand, now Dake has that problem... thanks a lot Koll/Dake/Cornell

[scribe 1,786]

43 minutes ago, Greatdane67 said:

Dake's strategy completely flustered Dieringer.  Let the Cornell intelligence arrogance commence.....

I’m going to play it cool until after Yianni. 

[boconnell 1,571]

7 minutes ago, RJChicago said:

To stifle Dieringer's offense to that level, where Dieringer didn't even seem to have any idea how to adapt to create opportunities to score on Dake for most of both matches, it does seem that Dake/Cornell significantly out-strategized Ringer and his team, or at least had a schematic edge today at least. Which after the classless behavior of Koll, calling referee's hungover and faulting them for taking naps between sessions many hours before they were due to officiate a match, it pains me to say that they out-strategized anyone - but today, at least, Dake and his team seemed to have a schematic edge.

It's not a schematic edge but a much deeper toolbox.  Dake has won matches pretty much every conceivable way you can.  Dieringer wins 1 way or he doesn't. 

You can't scheme what you don't have.  

 

[nhs67 1,675]

36 minutes ago, alliseeisgold said:

dakes so insanely good

dake being dake is a highlight on burroughs resume. there is levels to this, dake > taylor/ringer         burroughs >dake

Bold to say Taylor and Ringer are on the same level.

Ringer should be our 86 rep this year. We would medal that way.

[Fighting_Blue_Jay 22]

33 minutes ago, Mphillips said:

No confusion here.  It was one or other.

gotcha, you knew the correct scoring as 1 Dake when it happened in real time.

Except in freestyle it isnt always "one or the other" as we have seen both wrestlers can score off one sequence ... the ref held up four for Dieringer and Pyles & Bader didnt know if it would be 4-0, 4-2, or 2-0 and then they ruled 1 for Dake because he stepped out before the throw.