Stanford's updated team roster for 2019-2020 season

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https://gostanford.com/roster.aspx?path=wrestling&roster=1731&sort=weight

First thing I noticed on the newly updated roster is that Dalton Young, who has been projected to be the starter for Stanford this season at 133 lbs., is listed at 141 lbs.   And there are only two Stanford wrestlers listed at 133 lbs.  That being Anthony Le (True Junior) who has a career record at Stanford of 10-17 in the last two seasons and Luciano Arroyo (True Freshman)

According to this newly updated Stanford wrestling team roster the Stanford wrestling team for the 2020 season will be:

125 lbs
Gabriel Townsell - 4th year Senior - 19-12 last season at 125 lbs - Place 3rd at 2019 PAC 12 tournament - Three time NCAA qualifier
Logan Ashton - True Freshman - 2019 NHSCA Senior national champion - 2 time Georgia H.S. State champion and 4 time finalist
Jackson SiSario - True Freshman - 3 time Georgia H.S. State champion

133 lbs
Anthony Le - True Junior - 5-8 at 133 & 141 lbs last season
Luciano Arroyo - True Freshman - 4 time California H.S. State placer (7th, 3rd, 6th & 6th)

141 lbs
Real Woods - RS Freshman - 22-1 last season at 141 lbs.  Won the National Collegiate Open last March and the Princeton Open last November.  Runner-up at the Southern Scuffle last January
Brandon Kier - 4th year Senior - 4-6 last season at 141 lbs - 2019 PAC 12 runner-up at 141 lbs.
Jack Ramalia - RS Sophomore - 12-9 last season at 141 lbs
Dalton Young - RS Sophomore - 6-9 last season at 133 & 141 lbs
Steven Abbate - RS Sophomore - 3-4 last season at 141 & 149 lbs
Tony Williams - RS Freshman - 13-7 last season at 141 & 149 lbs
Fabian Santillian - True Freshman - 2 time Colorado H.S. State champion - 2017 Reno T.O.C. champion and two time Reno T.O.C. runner-up (2018 & 2019)

149 lbs
Require van der Merwe - RS Junior - 24-8 last season at 149 lbs - 2019 PAC 12 champion at 149 lbs - 2019 NCAA qualifier
Jake Barry - RS Junior - Did not compete last season due to injury
Jaden Abas - True Freshman - 2 time California State champion

157 lbs
Dominick Mandarino - True Junior - 21-9 last season at 157 & 165 lbs - Placed 3rd at 2019 Southern Scuffle at 157 lbs - 2018 Roadrunner Open champion at 157 lbs
Tyler Eischens - RS Freshman - 19-6 last season at 157 & 165 lbs - 2019 California Collegiate Open champion at 157 lbs - Placed 5th at the 2019 National Collegiate Open at 157 lbs last March
Gabe Dinette - RS Freshman - Did not compete last season - 3 time Colorado H.S. State champion
Ethan Woods - RS Sophomore - 3-4 last season at 157 lbs
Alex Escudero - RS Freshman - Did not compete last season
Dawson Sihavong - True Freshman - Three-time California state placer (6th - 2017; 4th - 2018; 3rd - 2019)

165 lbs
Shane Griffith - RS Freshman - 25-2 last season at 165 lbs - Placed 1st at 2018 Princeton Open and 1st at the 2018 Roadrunner Open and 1st at the 2019 National Collegiate Open at 165 lbs last March.  Placed 3rd at 2019 Southern Scuffle at 165 lbs
Jared Hill - RS Junior - 11-10 last season at 157 & 165 lbs - Placed 3rd at 2019 PAC 12 tournament at 165 lbs

174 lbs
Foster Karmon - RS Sophomore - 10-7 last season at 165 & 174 lbs

184 lbs
Judah Duhm - True Junior - 5-1 last season at  184 & 197 lbs - 2019 PAC 12 runner-up at 184 lbs (including an upset over the # 1 seed Dom Ducharme of CS Bakersfield)
Colbey Harlan - True Sophomore - 10-13 last season at 184 lbs
Nick Addison - True Freshman - Placed 3th at the New Jersey H.S. State tournament in 2018 & 2019

197 lbs
Nathan Traxler - RS Junior - 30-7 last season at 197 lbs - 2019 PAC 12 champion at 197 lbs - 2 time NCAA qualifier at 197 lbs

285 lbs
Haydn Maley - RS Sophomore - 23-12 last season at 285 lbs - 2019 PAC 12 runner-up at 285 lbs
David Showunmi - Graduate Student - 18-7 last season at 285 lbs
Trevor Rasmussen - Graduate Student - 8-6 last season at 285 lbs
Seamus O'Malley - True Freshman - Two-time Ohio D1 State Tournament champions (2018, 2019)

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Also it appears that two Stanford underclassmen wrestlers who were on the 2018-2019 roster are not on the 2019-2020 roster.  Namely Brandon Dallavia who was listed as a RS Sophomore last season at 165 lbs.  Dallavia went 7-2 last season for Stanford at 165 & 174 lbs. (He was 5-0 at 174 lbs & 2-2 at 165 lbs) and Austin Flores (184 lbs) who was listed incorrectly on the 2019 Stanford team roster as a Senior.  He was, in fact a RS Junior last season.  Flores was 6-5 last season at 184 lbs for Stanford.

I had Dallavia penciled in as the likely starter for the upcoming season at 174 lbs.  Have to wonder why he's no longer on their roster.

[nhs67 1,952]

There are a slew of 141lbers on that roster.

That is the weight class that is easiest to 'assume' the starter as of now in Woods.

I imagine we'll see a 141lber or two make the decent.

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13 hours ago, nhs67 said:

There are a slew of 141lbers on that roster.

That is the weight class that is easiest to 'assume' the starter as of now in Woods.

I imagine we'll see a 141lber or two make the decent.

I'm sure you are right about that.   Dalton Young, however, was the most recent Stanford wrestler listed at 141 lbs on the updated roster who has competed at 133 lbs.  Young last competed at 133 lbs at the 2019 Southern Scuffle on January 1st.

The only other Stanford 141 lb'er who has competed at 133 lbs (in college) is Brandon Kier and he last competed at 133 lbs back in November of 2017.

True Freshman Fabian Santillan competed at 138 lbs as a Senior in H.S.   And his weight class has gone from 113 lbs in 2015-2016, 120 lbs in 2016-2017, 126 lbs in 2017-2018 to 138 (12 lbs increase) in 2018-2019.

P.S. 141 and 157 both have a slew of guys at those two weight classes for Stanford (according to their updated roster).

Edited August 19, 2019 by Bronco

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Good info. 

Stanford is going to be very good this year. Best they have been in years. 

Their best weights may end up being 141 and 165 - 141 is extremely light this year and 165, while still solid, is far weaker than any time in the last 4 years. 

I think Stanford can legitimately get 4 AAs. If I had to guess I’d say 2, but 4 is reasonable if all goes well (maybe 1 or 2 upsets)

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1 hour ago, Housebuye said:

Good info. 

Stanford is going to be very good this year. Best they have been in years. 

Their best weights may end up being 141 and 165 - 141 is extremely light this year and 165, while still solid, is far weaker than any time in the last 4 years. 

I think Stanford can legitimately get 4 AAs. If I had to guess I’d say 2, but 4 is reasonable if all goes well (maybe 1 or 2 upsets)

Woods and Traxler should AA and 149 van der Merwe could very well AA.Townsell and Griffith will be right there as well.Stanford will definitely turn a few heads this year.

[Idaho 1,317]

Stanford will be very good this year. Woods I the starter the next 4. years barring injury. I am guessing that Dalton Young had a hard time making 133 last year, which was the reason for the move back up. If he could make 133 it would make their lineup tougher. With that many 141lbers on the roster and moving up not a great option either (VDM and Abas), I wonder who will try to move down. Tough lineup. If Woods, Griffith and Traxler get on the podium and others can score some points, there may be two PAC12 teams in the top 15 or higher. 

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Based on their recent history, I’d be willing to bet that a few of those projected starters won’t even be on the team this year. 

[Housebuye 2,417]

2 hours ago, justafan said:

Woods and Traxler should AA and 149 van der Merwe could very well AA.Townsell and Griffith will be right there as well.Stanford will definitely turn a few heads this year.

I’ve been saying Townsell will AA at some point since his freshman year. It’s time. The weight is still stacked though. He may end up being seeded 15-20. 

Woods and Griffith I think can both AA. 141 is depleted. Griffith is just that good even with 165 having depth. 

Traxler I think will be seeded to AA, but nobody outside of Kollin Moore is a lock to AA given what we have. Traxler could but a R16 finish wouldn’t be shocking. 

I think 2-4 AAs is reasonable. That would prob mean too 20-8 or so. With a great performance they could end up top 8 

[Idaho 1,317]

2 hours ago, Housebuye said:

I’ve been saying Townsell will AA at some point since his freshman year. It’s time. The weight is still stacked though. He may end up being seeded 15-20. 

Woods and Griffith I think can both AA. 141 is depleted. Griffith is just that good even with 165 having depth. 

Traxler I think will be seeded to AA, but nobody outside of Kollin Moore is a lock to AA given what we have. Traxler could but a R16 finish wouldn’t be shocking. 

I think 2-4 AAs is reasonable. That would prob mean too 20-8 or so. With a great performance they could end up top 8 

Low side is 20 - high side 10.  Don't see them above 10 - but I understand the optimism of having a good tourney- we all have it. 

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1 hour ago, Idaho said:

Low side is 20 - high side 10.  Don't see them above 10 - but I understand the optimism of having a good tourney- we all have it. 

Borelli is still the coach? Id say they’d be lucky to break the top 30.  He’s limited at best 

[Idaho 1,317]

3 hours ago, DrStrange said:

Borelli is still the coach? Id say they’d be lucky to break the top 30.  He’s limited at best 

Yes. Not a fan myself. But he has Alex Tirapelle as one of the assistants. 

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It will be interesting to see who ends up being Stanford's starter at 133 lbs this season.  Personally I think it will end up being either Dalton Young or Brandon Kier .

This is how I see Stanford's lineup for 2019-2020 (just my opinion as of this moment in time):

125 lbs - Gabe Townsell - 4th year Senior - 3 time NCAA qualifier

133 lbs - Dalton Young - RS Sophomore OR Brandon Kier - 4th year Senior

141 lbs - Real Woods - RS Freshman - 22-1 last season at 141 lbs while being redshirted

149 lbs - Require van der Merwe - RS Junior - 2019 PAC 12 champ at 149 lbs - 2019 NCAA qualifier

157 lbs - Dominick Mandarino - True Junior OR Tyler Eischens - RS Freshman

165 lbs - Shane Griffith - RS Freshman - 25-2 last season at 165 lbs while being redshirted

174 lbs - Jared Hill - RS Junior - Placed third at 165 pounds at the 2019 Pac-12 Championships OR Foster Karmon - RS Sophomore

184 lbs - Judah Duhm - True Junior - 2019 Runner-up at 184 pounds at the Pac-12 Championships

197 lbs - Nathan Traxler - RS Junior - 2019 PAC 12 champ at 197 lbs - 2 time NCAA qualifier (Round of 12 in 2019)

285 lbs - Hadyn Maley - RS Sophomore - 2019 Runner-up at the Pac-12 Championships - 2019 NCAA qualifier

I think this lineup for Stanford for 2019-2020 would be VERY competitive with Arizona State's lineup and a few months ago I thought ASU would have to be favored to win the PAC 12 in 2020.    Now I think this lineup for Stanford would beat ASU and allow Stanford to repeat as PAC 12 champs.

 

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8 hours ago, Bronco said:

It will be interesting to see who ends up being Stanford's starter at 133 lbs this season.  Personally I think it will end up being either Dalton Young or Brandon Kier .

This is how I see Stanford's lineup for 2019-2020 (just my opinion as of this moment in time):

125 lbs - Gabe Townsell - 4th year Senior - 3 time NCAA qualifier

133 lbs - Dalton Young - RS Sophomore OR Brandon Kier - 4th year Senior

141 lbs - Real Woods - RS Freshman - 22-1 last season at 141 lbs while being redshirted

149 lbs - Require van der Merwe - RS Junior - 2019 PAC 12 champ at 149 lbs - 2019 NCAA qualifier

157 lbs - Dominick Mandarino - True Junior OR Tyler Eischens - RS Freshman

165 lbs - Shane Griffith - RS Freshman - 25-2 last season at 165 lbs while being redshirted

174 lbs - Jared Hill - RS Junior - Placed third at 165 pounds at the 2019 Pac-12 Championships OR Foster Karmon - RS Sophomore

184 lbs - Judah Duhm - True Junior - 2019 Runner-up at 184 pounds at the Pac-12 Championships

197 lbs - Nathan Traxler - RS Junior - 2019 PAC 12 champ at 197 lbs - 2 time NCAA qualifier (Round of 12 in 2019)

285 lbs - Hadyn Maley - RS Sophomore - 2019 Runner-up at the Pac-12 Championships - 2019 NCAA qualifier

I think this lineup for Stanford for 2019-2020 would be VERY competitive with Arizona State's lineup and a few months ago I thought ASU would have to be favored to win the PAC 12 in 2020.    Now I think this lineup for Stanford would beat ASU and allow Stanford to repeat as PAC 12 champs.

 

PAC 12s, because of how few teams there are, is more about having no total scrubs. Stanford could win it, but they won’t outplace ASU at NCAAs. Still very impressive. 

Zahid should not equal Neville, you know? Seems a little silly to have PAC 12s with so few teams. Everyone sores points

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With a good coach this lineup would be solid  with Borelli you can’t count on anything other than top guys transferring, quitting or getting hurt  he’s a huge disappointment as a coach and a far cry from how good his dad was at CMU before he got old and stopped being relevant  

Truly one of the worst program leaders in all college wrestling  I’ve met the guy and antisocial and awkward is a massive understatement  he’s a complete weirdo  

Tirapelle couldn’t hack it at penn so not sure adding him to the staff will help anything  

they ran the one guy who could coach out of there in jamil Kelly 

 

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51 minutes ago, DrStrange said:

 

With a good coach this lineup would be solid  with Borelli you can’t count on anything other than top guys transferring, quitting or getting hurt  he’s a huge disappointment as a coach and a far cry from how good his dad was at CMU before he got old and stopped being relevant  

Truly one of the worst program leaders in all college wrestling  I’ve met the guy and antisocial and awkward is a massive understatement  he’s a complete weirdo  

Tirapelle couldn’t hack it at penn so not sure adding him to the staff will help anything  

they ran the one guy who could coach out of there in jamil Kelly 

 

Could you share more? I know folks don’t love his results but I haven’t heard this level of dislike for him. Is this how Stanford fans generally feel? Hard to tell from the east coast

[Idaho 1,317]

56 minutes ago, DrStrange said:

 

With a good coach this lineup would be solid  with Borelli you can’t count on anything other than top guys transferring, quitting or getting hurt  he’s a huge disappointment as a coach and a far cry from how good his dad was at CMU before he got old and stopped being relevant  

Truly one of the worst program leaders in all college wrestling  I’ve met the guy and antisocial and awkward is a massive understatement  he’s a complete weirdo  

Tirapelle couldn’t hack it at penn so not sure adding him to the staff will help anything  

they ran the one guy who could coach out of there in jamil Kelly 

 

He was 21-18 in duals at Penn with 13 NCAA qualifiers. Not sure how that’s not hacking it. This is his 3rd year back at Stanford. Do you think Borrelli landed these last two good recruiting classes by himself and it’s just coincidence that it coincides with Tirapelle coming back?  

[Idaho 1,317]

10 hours ago, Bronco said:

It will be interesting to see who ends up being Stanford's starter at 133 lbs this season.  Personally I think it will end up being either Dalton Young or Brandon Kier .

This is how I see Stanford's lineup for 2019-2020 (just my opinion as of this moment in time):

125 lbs - Gabe Townsell - 4th year Senior - 3 time NCAA qualifier

133 lbs - Dalton Young - RS Sophomore OR Brandon Kier - 4th year Senior

141 lbs - Real Woods - RS Freshman - 22-1 last season at 141 lbs while being redshirted

149 lbs - Require van der Merwe - RS Junior - 2019 PAC 12 champ at 149 lbs - 2019 NCAA qualifier

157 lbs - Dominick Mandarino - True Junior OR Tyler Eischens - RS Freshman

165 lbs - Shane Griffith - RS Freshman - 25-2 last season at 165 lbs while being redshirted

174 lbs - Jared Hill - RS Junior - Placed third at 165 pounds at the 2019 Pac-12 Championships OR Foster Karmon - RS Sophomore

184 lbs - Judah Duhm - True Junior - 2019 Runner-up at 184 pounds at the Pac-12 Championships

197 lbs - Nathan Traxler - RS Junior - 2019 PAC 12 champ at 197 lbs - 2 time NCAA qualifier (Round of 12 in 2019)

285 lbs - Hadyn Maley - RS Sophomore - 2019 Runner-up at the Pac-12 Championships - 2019 NCAA qualifier

I think this lineup for Stanford for 2019-2020 would be VERY competitive with Arizona State's lineup and a few months ago I thought ASU would have to be favored to win the PAC 12 in 2020.    Now I think this lineup for Stanford would beat ASU and allow Stanford to repeat as PAC 12 champs.

 

125: Brandon Courtney,

133: Julian Chlebove

141: Busiello

149: Maruca, 

157: Teemer

165: Shields

 174: A. Valencia

184: Z. Valencia, 

197: Norfleet

Hwt Hall

if ASU runs out this lineup the pac12 will be tight but the NCAA will not be.  A lot depends on Zahid. 

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11 hours ago, Idaho said:

125: Brandon Courtney,

133: Julian Chlebove

141: Busiello

149: Maruca, 

157: Teemer

165: Shields

 174: A. Valencia

184: Z. Valencia, 

197: Norfleet

Hwt Hall

if ASU runs out this lineup the pac12 will be tight but the NCAA will not be.  A lot depends on Zahid. 

 

It won't be decided for several more months what Arizona State's lineup will be for 2019-2020 BUT I don't think the above will be their lineup.   It's really difficult to say what it will be at this point as there are a number of things that just haven't been determined yet.  BUT I think Courtney's a lock at 125 lbs and Josh Kramer and Cory Crooks will be the starters at 133 & 141  lbs.

Also I think there is a possibility that Josh Shields could drop back down to 157 lbs (where he was until this past season) and that would give ASU Shields at 157 lbs, A. V at 165 lbs and Z. V. at 174 lbs, Norfleet at 184 lbs and Jacob Good at 197 lbs.

IF Shields did, in fact, return to 157 lbs, I think he would have to be considered the favorite to win the 2020 NCAA championship at that weight as he's defeated all of the top returners at that weight class in the past.

Edited August 21, 2019 by Bronco
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[Idaho 1,317]

8 hours ago, Bronco said:

 

It won't be decided for several more months what Arizona State's lineup will be for 2019-2020 BUT I don't think the above will be their lineup.   It's really difficult to say what it will be at this point as there are a number of things that just haven't been determined yet.  BUT I think Courtney's a lock at 125 lbs and Josh Kramer and Cory Crooks will be the starters at 133 & 141  lbs.

Also I think there is a possibility that Josh Shields could drop back down to 157 lbs (where he was until this past season) and that would give ASU Shields at 157 lbs, A. V at 165 lbs and Z. V. at 174 lbs, Norfleet at 184 lbs and Jacob Good at 197 lbs.

IF Shields did, in fact, return to 157 lbs, I think he would have to be considered the favorite to win the 2020 NCAA championship at that weight as he's defeated all of the top returners at that weight class in the past.

You will notice I said “if” and that it depends on Zahid. Most people are predicting a move up to 184 because of Olympic weights.  The lineup and weights will be influenced by his decision   It is no given that the lower weight studs redshirt. If they go all in for a trophy they will see the mat if they are the best guy. 

I think Hidlay will be the favorite at 157. 

Edited August 21, 2019 by Idaho

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8 hours ago, Bronco said:

 

It won't be decided for several more months what Arizona State's lineup will be for 2019-2020 BUT I don't think the above will be their lineup.   It's really difficult to say what it will be at this point as there are a number of things that just haven't been determined yet.  BUT I think Courtney's a lock at 125 lbs and Josh Kramer and Cory Crooks will be the starters at 133 & 141  lbs.

Also I think there is a possibility that Josh Shields could drop back down to 157 lbs (where he was until this past season) and that would give ASU Shields at 157 lbs, A. V at 165 lbs and Z. V. at 174 lbs, Norfleet at 184 lbs and Jacob Good at 197 lbs.

IF Shields did, in fact, return to 157 lbs, I think he would have to be considered the favorite to win the 2020 NCAA championship at that weight as he's defeated all of the top returners at that weight class in the past.

This isn't true at all. He beat Hidlay when Hidlay was a true freshman 3 years ago, but Hidlay jumped levels the next year and had an objectively better season, significantly out placing Shields at NCAA's. Kaleb Young also teched Shields 10-0 at Universities last summer as well. He certainly wouldn't be the favorite heading into the year, though he will probably be in contention to place high.

Shields coming down to 157 also screws up their lineup at 149. Either Teemer or Maruca would be on the bench. I doubt we see him come down.

Edited August 21, 2019 by qc8223

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16 hours ago, Idaho said:

You will notice I said “if” and that it depends on Zahid. Most people are predicting a move up to 184 because of Olympic weights.  The lineup and weights will be influenced by his decision   It is no given that the lower weight studs redshirt. If they go all in for a trophy they will see the mat if they are the best guy. 

I think Hidlay will be the favorite at 157. 

You will notice I said " It won't be decided for several more months" so any comments on this are nothing but conjecture at this point.  You are certainly entitled to your conjecture just as I am.

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16 hours ago, qc8223 said:

This isn't true at all. He beat Hidlay when Hidlay was a true freshman 3 years ago, but Hidlay jumped levels the next year and had an objectively better season, significantly out placing Shields at NCAA's. Kaleb Young also teched Shields 10-0 at Universities last summer as well. He certainly wouldn't be the favorite heading into the year, though he will probably be in contention to place high.

Shields coming down to 157 also screws up their lineup at 149. Either Teemer or Maruca would be on the bench. I doubt we see him come down.

It's 100 percent TRUE that "if Shields did, in fact return to 157 lbs, I THINK he would have to be considered the favorite to win the 2020 NCAA championship at that weight" so it's actually your comment that  "isn't true at all".  But please continue on with your anger based comments responding to comments by others taken completely OUT OF CONTEXT.  By all means.........continue on your path.  And I will choose to add you to my IGNORE list so I won't have to read anything more from you.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Bronco
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[qc8223 327]

2 hours ago, Bronco said:

It's 100 percent TRUE that "if Shields did, in fact return to 157 lbs, I THINK he would have to be considered the favorite to win the 2020 NCAA championship at that weight" so it's actually your comment that  "isn't true at all".  But please continue on with your anger based comments responding to comments by others taken completely OUT OF CONTEXT.  By all means.........continue on your path.  And I will choose to add you to my IGNORE list so I won't have to read anything more from you.

Lol, ok pedant. You may THINK Shields would be the favorite, but you'd be wrong. He was outplaced significantly by Hidlay in 2018 and was lit up by Kaleb Young in freestyle last summer. He had a shot to beat Hidlay in 2018 as the 4 seed, but was beaten by the 13 seed Zilverburg in Round 2. Shields is great and will be in finals contention if he drops (which I'd be surprised to see because it doesn't make much sense for their lineup), but Hidlay is the undisputed favorite at 157 heading into this year. He has the best body of work and is the top returning placer. It's a no-brainer, which means even you should be able to figure it out.

Absolutely shaking rn that I may be added to your ignore list. If you don't see my posts, what has this all been for??? I'd be devastated.

[Idaho 1,317]

5 hours ago, Bronco said:

You will notice I said " It won't be decided for several more months" so any comments on this are nothing but conjecture at this point.  You are certainly entitled to your conjecture just as I am.

Just like every lineup including Stanford's.

It's 100% true that you think Shields will be the favorite....I would agree that you 100% believe that....but you would be in the minority.... BTW nobody took your comments out of context and if you choose to push the "ignore" button on everyone on here because they disagree with you, well then it's 100% true that I think that is weak.