Idaho 1,322 Report post Posted August 26, 2019 Done in Iowa...next stop? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buf87 84 Report post Posted August 26, 2019 Can't go D1 without graduating or a special waiver can he? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qc8223 327 Report post Posted August 26, 2019 Given the rumored nature of his exit (serious family health issues), I wouldn't be shocked to see him back at Iowa in a year if everything gets sorted out. He wouldn't have to deal with eligibility issues in that case, and I do think Iowa is where he's always wanted to be. I also wouldn't be shocked if he never ended up on a roster anywhere. Who knows? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDogg 273 Report post Posted August 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, qc8223 said: Given the rumored nature of his exit (serious family health issues), I wouldn't be shocked to see him back at Iowa in a year if everything gets sorted out. He wouldn't have to deal with eligibility issues in that case, and I do think Iowa is where he's always wanted to be. I also wouldn't be shocked if he never ended up on a roster anywhere. Who knows? If the rumors about his family health issues are true then I’d imagine it’s Northwestern or nowhere until/unless circumstances change. Iowa City is only 3 hours from Oak Park so if that’s too far from his family I don’t see how any other D1 program makes sense outside of Northwestern. No other major D1 program is within 2 hours of Oak Park (no offense Huskies). I agree that, given the circumstances, he’d likely be given special consideration when it comes to trying to wrestle for another school. He absolutely should. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Relentless125 76 Report post Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) Looks like it might be a JUCO near Oak Park. Edited August 27, 2019 by Relentless125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,582 Report post Posted August 27, 2019 I am not sure I accept this family health story, at least not that its the cause of this most recent departure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,322 Report post Posted August 27, 2019 Does Teasdale’s arrival factor into this at all? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,582 Report post Posted August 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, Idaho said: Does Teasdale’s arrival factor into this at all? If he is getting beat by Desanto Murin Teasdale Lugo, that puts him 5th in line for 3 spots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Nasty 43 Report post Posted August 27, 2019 13 hours ago, hammerlockthree said: I am not sure I accept this family health story, at least not that its the cause of this most recent departure. Whether you accept this as truth or not is irrelevant. His dad is sick and he wants to be close to his dad; end of story. 3 leshismore, Columbia_Lou and BLT reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,423 Report post Posted August 27, 2019 12 hours ago, hammerlockthree said: If he is getting beat by Desanto Murin Teasdale Lugo, that puts him 5th in line for 3 spots. I doubt he is getting beat by murin at the very least Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLT 86 Report post Posted August 27, 2019 16 hours ago, Idaho said: Does Teasdale’s arrival factor into this at all? No, not even the same weight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idaho 1,322 Report post Posted August 27, 2019 2 hours ago, BLT said: No, not even the same weight. Interesting since Renteria was listed at 133 last year and that's where he was planning on staying and Teasdale is now listed as 133 on the current roster just released. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justafan 123 Report post Posted August 27, 2019 29 minutes ago, Idaho said: Interesting since Renteria was listed at 133 last year and that's where he was planning on staying and Teasdale is now listed as 133 on the current roster just released. Cut to 141 was gonna be hard for Renteria 133 wasn't a option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qc8223 327 Report post Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Perry said: I doubt he is getting beat by murin at the very least Murin is better than people give him credit for. He had 1 bad loss last year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,423 Report post Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, qc8223 said: Murin is better than people give him credit for. He had 1 bad loss last year. What good wins did he have in comparison? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpchillin 116 Report post Posted August 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, Perry said: What good wins did he have in comparison? I believe he beat the 11 seed and then the 6th seed last year in Pittsburgh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,423 Report post Posted August 28, 2019 The 11 seed had more losses than murin and carr at the 6 seed was a joke and highly discussed prior to the tournament. He also got beat by the 20 seed on the backside. Neither guy was particularly tough or highly touted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted August 28, 2019 2 hours ago, qc8223 said: Murin is better than people give him credit for. He had 1 bad loss last year. In limited time as a true freshman renteria beat all American Delvecchio 3 times before he missed weight for ncaas...I think he’s on a different level then murin 3 Relentless125, Big Nasty and Perry reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qc8223 327 Report post Posted August 28, 2019 12 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said: In limited time as a true freshman renteria beat all American Delvecchio 3 times before he missed weight for ncaas...I think he’s on a different level then murin Delvecchio was unseeded at NCAA's and placed as a result of a complete 3rd period meltdown from Desanto in the round of 12. Renteria also lost to Dylan Duncan and Mason Pengilly that year, both guys who didn't even sniff the podium that year. Delvecchio is the only quality guy Renteria has beaten at the college level and he was a 15ish ranked guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted August 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, qc8223 said: Delvecchio was unseeded at NCAA's and placed as a result of a complete 3rd period meltdown from Desanto in the round of 12. Renteria also lost to Dylan Duncan and Mason Pengilly that year, both guys who didn't even sniff the podium that year. Delvecchio is the only quality guy Renteria has beaten at the college level and he was a 15ish ranked guy. pengilly literally lost in the blood round in the toughest weight last year..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qc8223 327 Report post Posted August 28, 2019 12 hours ago, Perry said: The 11 seed had more losses than murin and carr at the 6 seed was a joke and highly discussed prior to the tournament. He also got beat by the 20 seed on the backside. Neither guy was particularly tough or highly touted The 11 seed, Moran, beat Nick Lee earlier in the year and took a bunch of bad losses in November and December because he was struggling with his weight. He had wins over multiple all americans this year (McKee and Lee) and lost 7-6 in the R12 to McKee. That's a legit win for Murin. Carr was a little overseeded but he was great all year. He just had a bad big tens. He was a consensus top 10 guy all year. Still a solid win for Murin. You neglect to mention that that 20 seed was returning all american Chad Red, fresh off a finals appearance at big tens. Like Moran, he also took bad losses early in the year due to weight struggles, but was elite once he got his weight under control. Red is on track to be a 4x all american. You shouldn't just look at seeds and records. You have to actually pay attention to who the guys are. 1 whaletail reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antitroll2828 987 Report post Posted August 28, 2019 Renteria lost to Duncan because he gassed out at the end ...which is how most his loses went that year Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qc8223 327 Report post Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Antitroll2828 said: pengilly literally lost in the blood round in the toughest weight last year..... "that year" both guys went 0-2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qc8223 327 Report post Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, Antitroll2828 said: Renteria lost to Duncan because he gassed out at the end ...which is how most his loses went that year So you're saying he lost because he scored fewer points? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,423 Report post Posted August 28, 2019 4 hours ago, qc8223 said: So you're saying he lost because he scored fewer points? You bring up moran's bad losses as a weight cut issue then criticize someone else for saying the same about renteria? Seems like you're cherry picking facts when it's convenient and crapping on the same logic when it's not Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
