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Best college wrestlers but worst freestyler?

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On 9/7/2019 at 1:22 PM, 77again said:

Mark Perry never placed in any senior level tournament. I don't recall him ever attempting senior level. His style, worked in college, but his funk style would not have gone well in men's FS.

Mark Churella was an absolute hammer in college and a US top tier in senior FS but did not make the 1980 US Olympic team.

1980 - Moscow, Soviet Union
Bobby Weaver
1980 (Moscow, Soviet Union)
FS
105.5 lbs.
DNC
Gene Mills
1980 (Moscow, Soviet Union)
FS
114.5 lbs.
DNC
John Azevedo
1980 (Moscow, Soviet Union)
FS
125.5 lbs.
DNC
Randy Lewis
1980 (Moscow, Soviet Union)
FS
136.5 lbs.
DNC
Chuck Yagla
1980 (Moscow, Soviet Union)
FS
149.5 lbs.
DNC
Leroy Kemp
1980 (Moscow, Soviet Union)
FS
163 lbs.
DNC
Chris Campbell
1980 (Moscow, Soviet Union)
FS
180.5 lbs.
DNC
Ben Peterson
1980 (Moscow, Soviet Union)
FS
198 lbs.
DNC
Russ Hellickson
1980 (Moscow, Soviet Union)
FS
220 lbs.
DNC
Greg Wojciechowski Hwt
1980 (Moscow, Soviet 

impressed that there were only 2 holdovers in 84.  

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On 9/3/2019 at 3:34 PM, bnwtwg said:

Absolute hammer. Today's freestyle rules + his blast double = world medals for years. I always wondered why he didn't continue his FS career.

From My recollection Jones gave it a year or two with horrible results and is the single best answer to this question.

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10 hours ago, Gantry said:

So did Churella try out for the 1980 team, if so how did he do?

I don't believe Churella even tried out in 1980.

Here are the results of the 1977 and 1978 freestyle Nationals.

1977

163-lb class
1. Stan Dziedzic (NYAC)
2. Mark Churella (Michigan WC)
3. Dan Zilverburg (Minnetonka WC)
4. Dave Schultz (SF Peninsula
Grapplers )
5. (tie) Bruce Kinseth (Iowa City, IA)
and Ethan Reeve (Ohio WC)
6. John Janaiak (NYAC)

1978

163-lb class
1. Chuck Yagla (Hawkeye WC)
2. Mark Churella (Sunkist Kids)
3. Jan Sanderson (unat)
4. Roye Oliver (Sunkist Kids)
5. Dan Muthler (USMC)
6. Joe Sloan (AIA)
7. Joe Zuspann (Cyclone WC)
8. Wade Schalles (NYAC)

Churella certainly doesn't belong on any list of poor freestyle wrestlers.

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19 hours ago, Cradle1 said:

From My recollection Jones gave it a year or two with horrible results and is the single best answer to this question.

He wrestled at the US Open in 2004 at 84kg and DNPed losing to Lee Fullhart and Clint Wattenberg.  In 2006 he wrestled the Open and finished 6th losing the 5th place match by medical forfeit to Hrovat. I don't think he wrestled the freestyle circuit after 2006.  He graduated in 2005. 

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20 hours ago, 77again said:

I don't believe Churella even tried out in 1980.

Here are the results of the 1977 and 1978 freestyle Nationals.

1977

163-lb class
1. Stan Dziedzic (NYAC)
2. Mark Churella (Michigan WC)
3. Dan Zilverburg (Minnetonka WC)
4. Dave Schultz (SF Peninsula
Grapplers )
5. (tie) Bruce Kinseth (Iowa City, IA)
and Ethan Reeve (Ohio WC)
6. John Janaiak (NYAC)

1978

163-lb class
1. Chuck Yagla (Hawkeye WC)
2. Mark Churella (Sunkist Kids)
3. Jan Sanderson (unat)
4. Roye Oliver (Sunkist Kids)
5. Dan Muthler (USMC)
6. Joe Sloan (AIA)
7. Joe Zuspann (Cyclone WC)
8. Wade Schalles (NYAC)

Churella certainly doesn't belong on any list of poor freestyle wrestlers.

True...but the title of the thread and the actual criteria set out for who qualifies are borderline contradictory. Churella doesn’t belong on any list of “worst” anything when it comes to wrestling. I was effectively naming him as my pick for the best folk wrestler who never made a senior world team.

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On 9/2/2019 at 2:43 AM, TripNSweep said:

Haselrig couldn't beat Erickson or Baumgartner so he quit to play football.  He was a junior world champion.  Zalesky injured his neck and was never the same after that injury so any attempt he made was really hampered by that.  

I feel like anyone who was top three says, not incorrectly, that they made the Olympic team. It’s not incorrect but creates the impression they were going to be wrestling as opposed to being an alternate. 

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1 hour ago, BigTimeFan said:

I feel like anyone who was top three says, not incorrectly, that they made the Olympic team. It’s not incorrect but creates the impression they were going to be wrestling as opposed to being an alternate. 

I've been down that rabbit hole on a local board where someone claimed a HS coach was an "Olympian" but he sure as hell wasn't the one slated to compete. In that case I think it was even more far fetched, think the coach had qualified for the trials but that was it.    

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20 hours ago, KTG119 said:

I've been down that rabbit hole on a local board where someone claimed a HS coach was an "Olympian" but he sure as hell wasn't the one slated to compete. In that case I think it was even more far fetched, think the coach had qualified for the trials but that was it.    

If "top 3" could one say they were on the US National Team during an Olympic year and be fully correct?  Now, they aren't saying they were an actual Olympian, but it still looks pretty cool and many would wrongly believe he was, while nothing stated was incorrect........

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