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1 hour ago, Housebuye said:

I hear you. All valid points. 

I’d be shocked if he lost to a tier 2 though. If that is his level I doubt he shows up. That would mean Gilman is completely handling him in the room and maybe even Clark is beating him more often than not. 

If he lost to Gilman or Fix I wouldn’t be surprised. 

Lee and Gilman aren’t qualified yet for trials, so we will likely see both in freestyle in December. Lee can qualify by winning 2020 NCAAs, but it seems very risky to wait until then

cant wait to see how this all plays out

Gilman is qualified for Oly Team trials by being a 2017 World team member.  57 kg has the most guys (5) currently qualified for the weight: Gilman, Fix, Garret, Graff, & Colon.

Zain is the only one at 65kg

74kg has JB(in finals), Dake(in semis), Green & Carr

86kg has Taylor, PD3, and Cox(who would be in semis) if he goes there.

97kg has Snyder (in finals) & Cox(who would be in semis) if he goes there

125kg has Gwiz & Parris

 

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2019 CONTINENTAL CUP
at Khasavjurt, Russia, Oct. 10-14

U.S. men’s freestyle roster

57 kg: Thomas Gilman (Iowa City, Iowa/Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)
57 kg: Zach Sanders (Minneapolis, Minn./Minnesota Storm)
65 kg: Dean Heil (Norman, Okla./Titan Mercury WC/Oklahoma RTC)
70 kg: Frank Molinaro (Norman, Okla./Titan Mercury WC/Oklahoma RTC)
74 kg: Isaiah Martinez (Champaign, Ill./Titan Mercury WC)
74 kg: Dan Vallimont (Philadelphia, Pa./Pennsylvania RTC)
74 kg: Nazar Kulchytskyy (Minneapolis, Minn./Titan Mercury WC/Gopher WC)
74 kg: Mekhi Lewis (Bound Brook, N.J./Titan Mercury WC/Southeast RTC)
86 kg: Kevin Radford (Tempe, Ariz./Sunkist Kids)
86 kg: Zahid Valencia (Bellflower, Calif./Sunkist Kids)
86 kg: Sammy Brooks (Iowa City, Iowa/New York AC)
86 kg: Nick Heflin (Norman, Okla./Titan Mercury WC/Oklahoma RTC)
92 kg: Mike Macchiavello (Raleigh, N.C./Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack WC)
97 kg: Ty Walz (Blacksburg, Va./Titan Mercury WC/Southeast RTC)
97 kg: Hayden Zillmer (Minneapolis, Minn./Minnesota Storm)
125 kg: Garrett Ryan (Scottsdale, Ariz./Sunkist Kids)
125 kg: Mike Kosoy (Tempe, Ariz./Sunkist Kids)

Schedule
Friday, Oct. 11
11 a.m. – Qualification rounds (57 kg, 65 kg, 74 kg, 86 kg, 97 kg)
5 p.m. – Semifinals (57 kg, 65 kg, 74 kg, 86 kg, 97 kg)

Saturday, Oct. 12
11 a.m. – Qualification rounds (61 kg, 70 kg, 79 kg, 92 kg, 125 kg)
11 a.m. – Repechage (57 kg, 65 kg, 74 kg, 86 kg, 97 kg)
5 p.m. – Semifinals (61 kg, 70 kg, 79 kg, 92 kg, 125 kg)
5:30 p.m. – Finals (57 kg, 65 kg, 74 kg, 86 kg, 97 kg)

Sunday, Oct. 13
11 a.m. – Repechage (61 kg, 70 kg, 79 kg, 92 kg, 125 kg)
5 p.m. – Finals (61 kg, 70 kg, 79 kg, 92 kg, 125 kg)

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2019 CONTINENTAL CUP
at Khasavjurt, Russia, Oct. 10-14

U.S. men’s freestyle roster

57 kg: Thomas Gilman (Iowa City, Iowa/Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)
57 kg: Zach Sanders (Minneapolis, Minn./Minnesota Storm)
65 kg: Dean Heil (Norman, Okla./Titan Mercury WC/Oklahoma RTC)
70 kg: Frank Molinaro (Norman, Okla./Titan Mercury WC/Oklahoma RTC)
74 kg: Isaiah Martinez (Champaign, Ill./Titan Mercury WC)
74 kg: Dan Vallimont (Philadelphia, Pa./Pennsylvania RTC)
74 kg: Nazar Kulchytskyy (Minneapolis, Minn./Titan Mercury WC/Gopher WC)
74 kg: Mekhi Lewis (Bound Brook, N.J./Titan Mercury WC/Southeast RTC)
86 kg: Kevin Radford (Tempe, Ariz./Sunkist Kids)
86 kg: Zahid Valencia (Bellflower, Calif./Sunkist Kids)
86 kg: Sammy Brooks (Iowa City, Iowa/New York AC)
86 kg: Nick Heflin (Norman, Okla./Titan Mercury WC/Oklahoma RTC)
92 kg: Mike Macchiavello (Raleigh, N.C./Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack WC)
97 kg: Ty Walz (Blacksburg, Va./Titan Mercury WC/Southeast RTC)
97 kg: Hayden Zillmer (Minneapolis, Minn./Minnesota Storm)
125 kg: Garrett Ryan (Scottsdale, Ariz./Sunkist Kids)
125 kg: Mike Kosoy (Tempe, Ariz./Sunkist Kids)

Schedule
Friday, Oct. 11
11 a.m. – Qualification rounds (57 kg, 65 kg, 74 kg, 86 kg, 97 kg)
5 p.m. – Semifinals (57 kg, 65 kg, 74 kg, 86 kg, 97 kg)

Saturday, Oct. 12
11 a.m. – Qualification rounds (61 kg, 70 kg, 79 kg, 92 kg, 125 kg)
11 a.m. – Repechage (57 kg, 65 kg, 74 kg, 86 kg, 97 kg)
5 p.m. – Semifinals (61 kg, 70 kg, 79 kg, 92 kg, 125 kg)
5:30 p.m. – Finals (57 kg, 65 kg, 74 kg, 86 kg, 97 kg)

Sunday, Oct. 13
11 a.m. – Repechage (61 kg, 70 kg, 79 kg, 92 kg, 125 kg)
5 p.m. – Finals (61 kg, 70 kg, 79 kg, 92 kg, 125 kg)

I was thinking the same thing. Glad somebody said it before me!

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34 minutes ago, lu1979 said:

Gilman is qualified for Oly Team trials by being a 2017 World team member.  57 kg has the most guys (5) currently qualified for the weight: Gilman, Fix, Garret, Graff, & Colon.

Zain is the only one at 65kg

74kg has JB(in finals), Dake(in semis), Green & Carr

86kg has Taylor, PD3, and Cox(who would be in semis) if he goes there.

97kg has Snyder (in finals) & Cox(who would be in semis) if he goes there

125kg has Gwiz & Parris

 

True. Missed the part of the criteria saying a senior team member from 17, 18 and 19 already qualify. Thanks for the list  

Wouldn’t Stieber technically be qualified at 65? I know he is retired but I wouldn’t be surprised if he showed up at Olympic trials. He never got to live that dream. 65 also isn’t that big of a cut for him 

I’m not so into the criteria. I think they should include any junior gold from the last 3 years. It feels like they are penalizing guys who aged out like Mekhi. Also maybe allowing all junior medalists would make sense for 2019, as it means they just lost once. Often times then junior world gold wins seniors the next year, so it seems like an “acceptable” loss. 

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2 hours ago, Coach_J said:

Don't care for Gilman's personality but admire him training over there to get better. Big props to him for taking the step.  And had to be a decent tournament considering the location.  Congrats all the way around.

Yup. There were very few foreigners there so even if he didn’t beat any names, you know the Dagestanis he took out we’re damn good and really didn’t want to lose to an american. Add to that he is a world silver and they were probably all gunning for him, just as our up and comers would do if a random Dagestani world medalist showed up at the Schultz.

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In unrelated news, I hope Mekhi and IMar hit. No idea who takes that one. Love me some iMar but Mekhi we haven’t seen in awhile and we know how good he was in 2018 in freestyle. That was with just a few months of training. Even JB said by the end of the summer (in 2018) he had gone from smashing Mekhi to fighting for takedowns. That means something

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4 hours ago, Housebuye said:

True. Missed the part of the criteria saying a senior team member from 17, 18 and 19 already qualify. Thanks for the list  

Wouldn’t Stieber technically be qualified at 65? I know he is retired but I wouldn’t be surprised if he showed up at Olympic trials. He never got to live that dream. 65 also isn’t that big of a cut for him 

I’m not so into the criteria. I think they should include any junior gold from the last 3 years. It feels like they are penalizing guys who aged out like Mekhi. Also maybe allowing all junior medalists would make sense for 2019, as it means they just lost once. Often times then junior world gold wins seniors the next year, so it seems like an “acceptable” loss. 

You are right Logan is qualified too.  I didn't include him as he has said he is done.  I would love to see him change his mind.  I also agree with you on including anyone who has won Jr (or U23) Golds during the last cycle.  I would rather see them make the qualification requirements to generous than to restrictive. Unfortunately no one from USAW called and asked me my opinion. :)  :) :)

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Well I hope all of our guys have a great tourney, and can build some momentum for themselves going into the last couple of months of the year. 

As far as Gilman is concerned, props to him for winning last week and trying to improve himself. I think he has decided that he is not going gentle into that good night. 

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Gilman talks about his 3 week journey from Ossetia to Dagestan and then back in the Bader interview. Fascinating.

Would love to hear even more about his time spent in the small villages up in the Dagestani mountains. No cell signal, no running water, they love wrestling, awesome hospitality.........what else? Love this stuff.

Really enjoyed Gilman's interview.  

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Would love to hear the interview with Bader, but put off by the headline link on the frontpage that takes us to a pay site if we want to hear the story.  Bait and switch to boost someone else's bank account.  Either give us the story or don't chump us with a headline story we have to pay for.

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1 hour ago, Coach_J said:

Would love to hear the interview with Bader, but put off by the headline link on the frontpage that takes us to a pay site if we want to hear the story.  Bait and switch to boost someone else's bank account.  Either give us the story or don't chump us with a headline story we have to pay for.

 Hey Coach,  just to fill you in a little bit, Gilman started his trip all by himself in Vladivazkaz, Ossetia  and trained at a Russian camp and stayed in dorms. There he met two brothers from Dagestan who invited him to go back to Dagestan and wrestle there. Gilman talks about traveling through Grozny, Chechnya then up into the mountains of Dagestan on old dirt roads with very small villages in the middle of nowhere. The two brothers hooked him up with rides and a place to stay in Dagestan. Gilman went 5-0  in a local tournament up in the mountains in a small village in Dagestan. He said the fans and the other wrestlers treated him very warmly. (I wonder if Gilman hooked up the brothers and the people he stayed with nice Iowa wrestling attire or Team USA gear. :D. ) Oh yeah, one more thing in the story, Gilman said his luggage was lost on the flight there and he only had one set of clothing throughout his whole three week trip. Hilarious the way he described it.  Gilman told Bader that there was so much more to his story that he could talk about. Would love to hear a Part 2 of the interview. 

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11 hours ago, 2td3nf said:

 Hey Coach,  just to fill you in a little bit, Gilman started his trip all by himself in Vladivazkaz, Ossetia  and trained at a Russian camp and stayed in dorms. There he met two brothers from Dagestan who invited him to go back to Dagestan and wrestle there. Gilman talks about traveling through Grozny, Chechnya then up into the mountains of Dagestan on old dirt roads with very small villages in the middle of nowhere. The two brothers hooked him up with rides and a place to stay in Dagestan. Gilman went 5-0  in a local tournament up in the mountains in a small village in Dagestan. He said the fans and the other wrestlers treated him very warmly. (I wonder if Gilman hooked up the brothers and the people he stayed with nice Iowa wrestling attire or Team USA gear. :D. ) Oh yeah, one more thing in the story, Gilman said his luggage was lost on the flight there and he only had one set of clothing throughout his whole three week trip. Hilarious the way he described it.  Gilman told Bader that there was so much more to his story that he could talk about. Would love to hear a Part 2 of the interview. 

Appreciated man.  Few go to Russia and come home without intriguing stories!

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On 2/14/2020 at 9:25 PM, Coach_J said:

Appreciated man.  Few go to Russia and come home without intriguing stories!

I’ve been, and have some stories, but man nothing like this. This is a type of cross world culture very very few people in the world will ever get to experience. I think of the American teams that have been in Iran, these stories of our guys over in Siberia and the Caucuses, and all the other trips that take place that maybe don’t get nearly the attention. This above all else is what makes the senior level and Olympic circuit so great. 
 

 

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A few impressions of my travels in Russia.  In Moscow, one of our group members, who is of Lebanese descent, was detained by police for looking "Caucasian" (from the Caucasus mountains).  Our guide had to intervene so our guy wasn't taken into the police station.  Yes, being dark-skinned is enough for the police to detain anybody they damn well please over there.

In Belarus, we were invited to the "house" of the local wrestling federation.  After our bus wound in and out of a neighborhood most comparable to Borat's village (corrugated tin roofs, no glass in the windows, chickens all over, etc.) we came to a clearing where there stood the "house," complete with security wall all around and a guy with a machine gun standing guard.  The place was opulent, a complete contrast to the neighborhood we passed through.  We asked how the federation could build such a house and were told "we make business."  We asked what kind of business and were told, "Yes, make business."  One of our group members asked, "Like a computer business," and the answer was, "Yes, we make computer business."  My take: best to stop asking questions and break out the vodka.

When we were on our way out, I had purchased a Russian army dagger with scabbard for my son in the Moscow flea market (that is a whole story in itself).  At the airport, the instructions on the wall said that all items, such as knives, should be packed securely in check-through luggage, which mine was.  When my bag went through the x-ray it was pulled from the conveyor and within minutes I was called over, at which point an older female security person holding my son's prize dagger began shouting at me and shaking the dagger at me.  I didn't know what she was saying, and a guard with a machine gun came over and starting babbling and pointing at me as well.  Our guide was busy at the ticket counter and didn't notice what was going on until things got heated.  The guy with the machine kept pointing for me to go someplace off in the distance and I kept telling him I wasn't going anywhere.  Things got bad when the guard tried to grab my arm to make me go with him and I smacked his hand away and told him to get his f.cking hands off me, at which point he pointed the machine gun at me.  Needless to say, that got my attention.  Our guide came over and, to make a long story short, the dagger was considered property of the Russian government and is not legally allowed to leave the country, which I had no clue about.  The guard was trying to arrest me for smuggling.  Much more to the story but suffice it to say I'm safely still alive in the good old US of A.

And as the pics below attest, always be on the look out for Lenin and Chuck Norris hanging out.

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I'm not a good wrestler at all but I lived and trained in the Russian Caucasus a bit. I also went around Russia and Ukraine. Moscow and St. Petersburg are a world away from the Islamic republics where most of the wrestlers come from, culturally and infrastructure wise.

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