gimpeltf 1,522 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 3 hours ago, NJDan said: I don't think this score is possible. All scores are multiples of 10. That's false- or at least misleading. All scores NOW are multiples of 10. I got a 1457. I'm not sure when they made that change. Also, the definition of an 800 changed a couple years after I took them. T0 oversimplify the scores are based on 500 being dead average and then 600 being 1 std deviation above the raw score mean and 400 being 1 std dev below. So 800 was (when I took them) 3 std devs above. That may or may not have been a perfect score. And if the test was "easy" and more than expected got a perfect raw score that might not be 3 std devs above. A couple years after I graduated they announced that a perfect raw score would translate to an 800 regardless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 1,988 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Housebuye said: Different era. It was a much harder test. I’m not a Bush fan but this fact is overplayed Even in his era that was still an exceptionally low score for a Yale student. With that said, I'm amazed he scored so high. 2 Softmats and NonspecificJargon reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
witwhiz 37 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Billyhoyle said: Even in his era that was still an exceptionally low score for a Yale student. With that said, I'm amazed he scored so high. It's been credibly opined that Bush's military intelligence testing gave him an IQ in the mid 120's, placing him in the 95th percentile of the population. John Kerry's, for comparison, would have translated to an IQ of 120 and put him in the 91st percentile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 876 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 On 6/27/2020 at 2:03 PM, Plasmodium said: I have no desire to discuss a specific person. That SAT is actually average for Ivy League wrestlers? If that is the average board score for any group at an ivy, we can dispense with the notion of academics being more rigorous and demanding in the ivy league. I don’t think it proves anything about the rigor once in the school (although I have heard they’re not really much if any more demanding than a lot of other non-ivies once you’re in, but that has nothing to do with SAT scores). But it does prove how much preferential treatment athletes get in the admission process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klehner 396 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 5 hours ago, 1032004 said: I don’t think it proves anything about the rigor once in the school (although I have heard they’re not really much if any more demanding than a lot of other non-ivies once you’re in, but that has nothing to do with SAT scores). But it does prove how much preferential treatment athletes get in the admission process. You have no ****ing idea what are the average SAT scores for the wrestling team (or any other team) at Cornell (or any other school). Who gathers and publishes that data, do you think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 876 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, klehner said: You have no ****ing idea what are the average SAT scores for the wrestling team (or any other team) at Cornell (or any other school). Who gathers and publishes that data, do you think? Sorry was just going off the previous poster's statement - should probably say it would prove that, not does. I'd believe it though - that score is still likely decently above the average NCAA wrestler. Quick google search shows there has been some data around average athlete SAT scores - https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/01/us/college-scores/index.html . For example here is Binghampton mens and women's basketball from 2007-2013 - https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1003067-binghamton-data.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buck 65 Report post Posted June 29, 2020 Brown and Cornell SAT scores are considerably lower than the other Ivies. Not a knock just the way it has always been. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,041 Report post Posted July 1, 2020 is there a lineup prediction in this thread someone could quote? normally I wouldn't be such a diva, but I didn't decide to put a whole forum in a topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 325 Report post Posted July 1, 2020 On 6/28/2020 at 11:04 PM, NJDan said: I don't think this score is possible. All scores are multiples of 10. they are now; they weren't then. also, buck was making up the numbers for yapoujian for a laugh to respond to my post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 325 Report post Posted July 1, 2020 32 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: is there a lineup prediction in this thread someone could quote? normally I wouldn't be such a diva, but I didn't decide to put a whole forum in a topic. you only have to go back a couple of pages to see a post with a projection and commentary. 1 hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShakaAloha 100 Report post Posted July 1, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 5:06 AM, klehner said: The original reference I found said that Koll "circulated" the video, but I can't verify that. The poster said it was in email sent by Koll, so it would seem legit. Tucker said he was done wrestling at Cornell, unless they (and the Ivy League) chose to make a COVID-19 exception for graduating seniors who lost out on some or all of their senior year competition. He knew the rules. If you look at the 20-21 roster and the video, it would seem like 125: Arujau 133: Moomey/Wilson 141: Yianni 149: Richard/Saunders 157: Yapoujian 165: Santoro/Ramirez 174: Berreyesa/Foca 184: Dean 197: Darmstadt/Cardenas (one of only two listed frosh) 285: Fernandes/Furman For @hammerlockthree 1 hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buck 65 Report post Posted July 1, 2020 10 hours ago, ugarte said: also, buck was making up the numbers for yapoujian for a laugh to respond to my post. It's true. I make up stuff all the time because I'm a troll. Or at least that's what I've been told. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,041 Report post Posted July 1, 2020 That lineup has got to be the most high school credentialed team Cornell has ever put out right? I don't think I've ever seen them with a lineup that compared to tOSU, OSU, or PSU in terms of "talent".....hell I'm not sure Iowa did it till last year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klehner 396 Report post Posted July 1, 2020 3 hours ago, hammerlockthree said: That lineup has got to be the most high school credentialed team Cornell has ever put out right? I don't think I've ever seen them with a lineup that compared to tOSU, OSU, or PSU in terms of "talent".....hell I'm not sure Iowa did it till last year. You know what's funny? Outside of the guys at 133, the least "high school credentialed" likely starter in that lineup is the guy who made it to the 2019 NCAA finals. 1 hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red blades 246 Report post Posted July 1, 2020 7 hours ago, buck said: It's true. I make up stuff all the time because I'm a troll. Or at least that's what I've been told. But you are at least an honest troll. And occasionally funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,041 Report post Posted July 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, klehner said: You know what's funny? Outside of the guys at 133, the least "high school credentialed" likely starter in that lineup is the guy who made it to the 2019 NCAA finals. thats why we're cornell fans I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buck 65 Report post Posted July 1, 2020 Mike Gray or Grey needs another gig. Getting a little stale passing out towels. Time for grasshopper to land his own program. 1 NonspecificJargon reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShakaAloha 100 Report post Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, buck said: Mike Gray or Grey needs another gig. Getting a little stale passing out towels. Time for grasshopper to land his own program. I think he stays to get Yianni his 4th NCAA title Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 325 Report post Posted July 2, 2020 7 hours ago, buck said: Mike Gray or Grey needs another gig. Getting a little stale passing out towels. Time for grasshopper to land his own program. From some interviews I've seen, I think he's been looking tbh. But I also think he wants to be matside for Yianni and Kyle (and Nahshon, why not!) in Tokyo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buck 65 Report post Posted July 2, 2020 Other than rub the sweat off their bodies between periods what else does he do for those guys? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klehner 396 Report post Posted July 2, 2020 2 hours ago, buck said: Other than rub the sweat off their bodies between periods what else does he do for those guys? Just stop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buck 65 Report post Posted July 2, 2020 Honest question. Seriously doubt Dake/Yianni/Nahshon need coaching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klehner 396 Report post Posted July 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, buck said: Honest question. Seriously doubt Dake/Yianni/Nahshon need coaching. Go find Yianni's NCAA finals matches, and listen to his interviews and to whom he gives credit. Then see if your doubt still stands. Funny that every world class athlete, in every sport, has a coach, but these three guys don't need coaching. They must be truly exceptional. 2 Softmats and cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,041 Report post Posted July 2, 2020 36 minutes ago, buck said: Honest question. Seriously doubt Dake/Yianni/Nahshon need coaching. Everybody needs coaching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asa Packer 8 Report post Posted July 2, 2020 Klehner: buck is LU's version of scribe, just ignore him. PS always welcome by me on lehigh sports forum. Love the moniker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites