Jimmy Cinnabon 163 Report post Posted October 17 wrestler in America today. He has beaten Taylor, Dake and Snyder...and he is a World Champ. Can any other US wrestler say that? World Champ plus victories over 3 other top guys in the US? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 559 Report post Posted October 17 Ohhh Jimmy.... Stimulating as always... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mspart 153 Report post Posted October 17 A lot can change in a few years. mspart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Cinnabon 163 Report post Posted October 17 6 minutes ago, mspart said: A lot can change in a few years. mspart Yes. Before I would say Snyder was the best, but lately Cox has cemented himself as the best wrestler in America. 1 Plasmodium reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,127 Report post Posted October 17 52 minutes ago, mspart said: A lot can change in a few years. mspart A lot has changed in a few short years. Cox rocks! Jimmy is spot on here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tec87 324 Report post Posted October 17 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: wrestler in America today. He has beaten Taylor, Dake and Snyder...and he is a World Champ. Can any other US wrestler say that? World Champ plus victories over 3 other top guys in the US? Burroughs has wins over Dake and Taylor in freestyle. Cox very well may be the best in the US today but the Snyder win was folkstyle, so I wouldn’t necessarily count that one since Snyder has beaten him in freestyle since then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jchapman 728 Report post Posted October 17 Cox is right up there. For me, I just need to see him win an Olympic weight. That may not be fair, but that is how I feel. 1 Ogalthorpe Haywood reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,367 Report post Posted October 17 If he goes 86 kg, I agree. Otherwise, no. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yonz_g 51 Report post Posted October 17 12 minutes ago, tec87 said: Burroughs has wins over Dake and Taylor in freestyle. Cox very well may be the best in the US today but the Snyder win was folkstyle, so I wouldn’t necessarily count that one since Snyder has beaten him in freestyle since then. It may be too long ago to consider, but he also holds a freestyle and greco win over Snyder at Fargo; they went 2-2 against each other at Cadet/Junior Nationals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank_Rizzo 312 Report post Posted October 17 Dake is the best wrestler in the country. Don't be ignorant. No one on earth even remotely close to his size can even get a whiff of him right now. 1 herma48852 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2td3nf 459 Report post Posted October 17 So Cox is the best, yet at this time he has no weight class. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffrideal 80 Report post Posted October 17 Like to see Cox 97 and Snyder 120. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank_Rizzo 312 Report post Posted October 17 Between Cox, Taylor, and Snyder, an American with at least one world level gold medal won't be going to the Olympics. I suspect it will be Taylor and Cox will be our rep at 86kg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSUSMC 80 Report post Posted October 17 Luke Sheridan pinned Cox with a left-side HL and Morgan McIntosh beat Sheridan (he also beat Cox in the NCAA consi-semis) You fail, again, Jimmy; Morgan Mc > Cox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestling60 6 Report post Posted October 17 Dake got one on Cox in best of 3 a few years back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,127 Report post Posted October 17 Cox beat Dake well before he had transformed himself into that all that and a bag of chips. Dont kid yourselves, he beats Dake all day. Also, JB will continue his complete domination of Dake. 2 CaliWrestler and tbert reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorenomore 41 Report post Posted October 18 There is a big difference in depth and competition at Olympic weights. Makes me think of Stieber - world champ, trouble at 65. He doesn’t make the 2020 lineup. I previously thought he would have his pick at either weight, not anymore. Snyder to PSU changes everything both for Snyder and Taylor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crotalus 232 Report post Posted October 18 19 hours ago, yonz_g said: It may be too long ago to consider, but he also holds a freestyle and greco win over Snyder at Fargo; they went 2-2 against each other at Cadet/Junior Nationals. Yeah, I don't think J'den actually ever beat Snyder in folkstyle. Snyder won their only college matchup in the NCAA semis. J'den is a different animal, now, though. I'd love to see the matchup, but would hate for either of these guys to be off the Olympic team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZ_wrestling 73 Report post Posted October 18 18 hours ago, Plasmodium said: Cox beat Dake well before he had transformed himself into that all that and a bag of chips. Dont kid yourselves, he beats Dake all day. Also, JB will continue his complete domination of Dake. Wish they got rid of 74 and kept 79 for the Olympics. Fresh Dake at his natural weight class would run Burroughs over without giving up a point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mspart 153 Report post Posted October 18 Perhaps a fresh JB at his natural weight would still beat Dake. It will be interesting to see if they have to wrestle each other at OTT. I think Cox's best chance is at 86. And I'm not totally convinced he will win that with a healthy Magic Man. 97 will have Snyder for the Olympic Team. I just feel badly that we have 5 world champions going for 3 weight classes because of the ludicrous Olympic 6 weight classes. mspart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,359 Report post Posted October 18 3 hours ago, AZ_wrestling said: Wish they got rid of 74 and kept 79 for the Olympics. Fresh Dake at his natural weight class would run Burroughs over without giving up a point. Dake is on record saying he weighed in quite a bit under 79kilos on day two of worlds last year. I'd be willing to bet that JB has a harder time getting down to 74 than Dake does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestling60 6 Report post Posted October 18 On 10/17/2019 at 4:45 PM, Plasmodium said: Cox beat Dake well before he had transformed himself into that all that and a bag of chips. Dont kid yourselves, he beats Dake all day. Also, JB will continue his complete domination of Dake. How about Dakes total domination of Taylor? What is your input on that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,127 Report post Posted October 19 2 hours ago, Wrestling60 said: How about Dakes total domination of Taylor? What is your input on that? LOL - Dake is a demonstrably better wrestler than Taylor? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mspart 153 Report post Posted October 19 1 hour ago, Plasmodium said: LOL - Dake is was a demonstrably better wrestler than Taylor. FIFY. A lot has changed. Taylor has become dominant. Taylor has pins, not a few. I don't think Dake does. Taylor was just incredible the last two years. He showed dominance. Not that Dake hasn't, but not as dominant. It is hard for me to believe Dake could have beat Taylor last year unless he is so into his head that Taylor just can't win. I really don't see that as the case. It would be interesting to see them go at it again. But I don't think that will happen. mspart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,127 Report post Posted October 19 2 minutes ago, mspart said: FIFY. A lot has changed. Taylor has become dominant. Taylor has pins, not a few. I don't think Dake does. Taylor was just incredible the last two years. He showed dominance. Not that Dake hasn't, but not as dominant. It is hard for me to believe Dake could have beat Taylor last year unless he is so into his head that Taylor just can't win. I really don't see that as the case. It would be interesting to see them go at it again. But I don't think that will happen. mspart How many times has the new and improved David Taylor beat Kyle Dake in a fantasy matchup? :) 1 Greatdane67 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
