U23 Discussion

[cjc007 537]

He's gonna go up but he's also gonna be severely undersized.  I could see him winning 92kg non-Olympic worlds.  

If JDen isn't there of course. :)

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[steamboat_charlie v2 797]

Kerkvliet 4-4 on criteria... challenge thrown and they're reviewing something that happened 30 seconds prior... uh oh

[DocBZ 24]

Kerkvliet beats the Mongolian Lkhagvagerel Munkhtur 4-4 on criteria for bronze. Challenge pending but if it holds that a solid win for his age. He's the same Mongolian that Gwiazdowski beat for bronze at last year's Yarygin.

[treep2000 861]

1 minute ago, DocBZ said:

Kerkvliet beats the Mongolian Lkhagvagerel Munkhtur 4-4 on criteria for bronze. Challenge pending but if it holds that a solid win for his age. He's the same Mongolian that Gwiazdowski beat for bronze at last year's Yarygin.

And Kerk is 18 or 19 right?

[TBar1977 3,446]

Steiber needs to throw his shoes, strip down to his skivvies and do a naked coaching dance in protest. 

[DocBZ 24]

Wow...reversed to caution 1 against Kerk somehow and Kerk loses.

[steamboat_charlie v2 797]

Wow, they took it from him.  Big surprise.  

[TBar1977 3,446]

2 minutes ago, DocBZ said:

Kerkvliet beats the Mongolian Lkhagvagerel Munkhtur 4-4 on criteria for bronze. Challenge pending but if it holds that a solid win for his age. He's the same Mongolian that Gwiazdowski beat for bronze at last year's Yarygin.

Reversed on brick challenge. MGL 4-4 over Kerkvliet. 

[AZ_wrestling 87]

Absolute bull**** 

[Mokoma 87]

18 minutes ago, AZ_wrestling said:

I’ve said it after the Jden match and got criticized endlessly. Bo could have medaled this year at 86 had he gone down. Honestly believe he’s top 3-5 in the world at 86 or 92. 

I think Bo would have won world gold at 86 or 92, if he were on the team.

[Paul158 19]

How much is Kerkvliet weighing. I thought he was around 220 or so.

[TBar1977 3,446]

1 minute ago, Mokoma said:

I think Bo would have won world gold at 86 or 92, if he were on the team.

You like him over Yazdani? That's a hard call to make. 

[Crotalus 252]

I’ve said it after the Jden match and got criticized endlessly. Bo could have medaled this year at 86 had he gone down. Honestly believe he’s top 3-5 in the world at 86 or 92. 

I agree, which is why the situation with Taylor doesn't make sense. Bo could make 86 after his morning dump and would have easily won WTT. So when they knew about Taylor's injury, why would they not have Bo go down instead of wrestling 10 lbs under weight and facing J'Den?

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[steamboat_charlie v2 797]

Honestly this S@#$ is ridiculous. 

(1) The point they challenged took place at 7 seconds. 

(2) There was a clock stoppage and at least 20 seconds for Mongolia to throw their brick.  No challenge.  

(3) Clock runs out on the match with Kerkvliet winning 4-4 on criteria... here comes the challenge brick

(4) They go back and review the prior action and change an obvious step out to a caution and 1?  come on man.  

[Mokoma 87]

Just now, TBar1977 said:

You like him over Yazdani? That's a hard call to make. 

I do, Taylor has handled him with ease.  I also take Bo over Taylor, if you want to ask that next.

[Ogalthorpe Haywood 214]

22 minutes ago, dmm53 said:

Wow.  What a run for Nickal.  Flo has the Russian he just tech-ed ranked at 6th in the world at 92 KG.

Bo May be the 2nd best 92kg in the world. 

[TBar1977 3,446]

Zare up 7-0 on Goloev at the break. 

[TBar1977 3,446]

3 minutes ago, Crotalus said:

I agree, which is why the situation with Taylor doesn't make sense. Bo could make 86 after his morning dump and would have easily won WTT. So when they knew about Taylor's injury, why would they not have Bo go down instead of wrestling 10 lbs under weight and facing J'Den?

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Because Bo wants to move UP. 

[TBar1977 3,446]

3 minutes ago, Mokoma said:

I do, Taylor has handled him with ease.  I also take Bo over Taylor, if you want to ask that next.

I don't see that. Not today anyway. 

[AIW-HS 11]

Maybe Bo just wanted the challenge of facing Cox?  Could be as simple as that. 

[TBar1977 3,446]

4 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie v2 said:

Honestly this S@#$ is ridiculous. 

(1) The point they challenged took place at 7 seconds. 

(2) There was a clock stoppage and at least 20 seconds for Mongolia to throw their brick.  No challenge.  

(3) Clock runs out on the match with Kerkvliet winning 4-4 on criteria... here comes the challenge brick

(4) They go back and review the prior action and change an obvious step out to a caution and 1?  come on man.  

Ohio State lawyers are < Cornell lawyers

[AZ_wrestling 87]

4 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie v2 said:

Honestly this S@#$ is ridiculous. 

(1) The point they challenged took place at 7 seconds. 

(2) There was a clock stoppage and at least 20 seconds for Mongolia to throw their brick.  No challenge.  

(3) Clock runs out on the match with Kerkvliet winning 4-4 on criteria... here comes the challenge brick

(4) They go back and review the prior action and change an obvious step out to a caution and 1?  come on man.  

Ridiculous is an understatement. Stuff like this has got to stop. Poor kerk

[Mokoma 87]

2 minutes ago, TBar1977 said:

I don't see that. Not today anyway. 

So today, with Taylor recovering from injury you would take him?

[scramble 151]

8 hours ago, misterc said:

I'd have to imagine everyone in DT's circle knew the game plan to set up the OTT.  The phrase "loyal to a fault" comes to mind.  Seeing Bo's results here, I can understand why he and NLWC thought he could be the rep for the senior level at 92kg.  

It'll be interesting to see it all play out since he and DT will collide anyways, or he will make a monstrous jump to 97.

Unless  Bo is beating DT it would be short sighted to think he could beat J'Den.  And I'm not a PSU. Hater.  I like PSU and I am a big fan of Sanderson.   But I'm also objective and I don't see how even a person would think that J'Den is an easier road then Taylor unless they're neck-and-neck with DT or beating them. At the very least J'Den and Taylor are neck-and-neck themselves and could go back and forth. I personally think J'Den is a hair above David Taylor. However I wouldn't go as far as to put money on it.

Edited October 30, 2019 by scramble

[Mokoma 87]

6 minutes ago, scramble said:

Unless  Bo is beating DT it would be short sighted to think he could beat J'Den.  And I'm not a PSU. Hater.  I like PSU and I am a big fan of Sanderson.   But I'm also objective and I don't see how even a person would think that J'Den is an easier road then Taylor unless they're neck-and-neck with DT or beating them. At the very least J'Den and Taylor are neck-and-neck themselves and could go back and forth. I personally think J'Den is a hair above David Taylor. However I wouldn't go as far as to put money on it.

After watching Bo lose to J'Den I don't think it is unreasonable to think Bo can win next time.  After all he really has not done much freestyle in the past 5+ years right?  I expect his learning curve to be very steep.