U23 Discussion

[TBar1977 3,842]

45 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

"Yianni beat two guys at a level that Zain has never remotely approached, but it doesn't count because I've decided they don't count."

Disagree on all counts. Zain has made two World Teams, so that is a level, by fact, that Yianni has not gotten to. 

I stand by what I said before. Yianni winning Dogu is nice, but him surrendering a 9-0 deficit before Musakaev gassed out is not the same as beating Musakaev at Worlds. Two different things. Its like how people said DT pinning Yazdani at World Cup doesn't mean he can beat him at Worlds. DT has in fact won that match, to date Yianni has not. Maybe one day you will be able to point out when he does win a match like that, but not yet. 

Edited October 24, 2019 by TBar1977

[spladle08 739]

Does anyone have an opinion on who is the best option for senior rep at 65kg?

[Lurker 1,397]

19 minutes ago, spladle08 said:

Does anyone have an opinion on who is the best option for senior rep at 65kg?

Eirmann

[spladle08 739]

Eirmann

Lol i just liked to poke fun. But seriously, wish i could find everyone country's lineup.

[uncle bernard 426]

2 hours ago, TBar1977 said:

Disagree on all counts. Zain has made two World Teams, so that is a level, by fact, that Yianni has not gotten to. 

I stand by what I said before. Yianni winning Dogu is nice, but him surrendering a 9-0 deficit before Musakaev gassed out is not the same as beating Musakaev at Worlds. Two different things. Its like how people said DT pinning Yazdani at World Cup doesn't mean he can beat him at Worlds. DT has in fact won that match, to date Yianni has not. Maybe one day you will be able to point out when he does win a match like that, but not yet. 

Dunked on yourself again with that DT example. DT showed those people were idiots, like you are now. 

You know you don't have to spend all your time online licking Penn State boots right?

[TBar1977 3,842]

21 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Dunked on yourself again with that DT example. DT showed those people were idiots, like you are now. 

You know you don't have to spend all your time online licking Penn State boots right?

Now, now you little Socialist Troll. Be nice. 

[bnwtwg 484]

13 hours ago, spladle08 said:

Does anyone have an opinion on who is the best option for senior rep at 65kg?

It depends if Kolat can still make weight with the new weigh-in rules...

[BigTimeFan 973]

The fact is that beating someone at a non worlds event isn’t the same. The fact that DT ultimately beat Yazdanni doesn’t invalidate the comments after the World Cup. Here’s two eighties classics by way of example: Jim Scherr lost repeatedly to Maharbek Khadartsef over his career. He beat him once, in the World Cup. Chris Wilson beat Fadzaev a few times, once I’m the World Cup. He never won worlds. Bottom line is that until DT won worlds it was legit to say “that’s great but Yaz gassed and it wasn’t the worlds”. DT proved the World Cup wasn’t a fluke. He didn’t prove the comments were dumb. 

[tigerfan 161]

Eierman with the fall over the Iranian in his first match.  

[cjc007 655]

Panteleo wins 8/0.

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[Housebuye 2,148]

On 10/24/2019 at 9:09 PM, TBar1977 said:

Now, now you little Socialist Troll. Be nice. 

Loses argument. Starts name calling. 
  
classic

[77again 104]

Eierman loses to Krgystan 13-13. Eierman was winning 13-11 with 6 seconds remaining in match. Eierman was put down in par terre. For some unknown reason he tried to stand up with 3 seconds remaining, got immediately launched for 2, and lost on criteria.

[Housebuye 2,148]

2 minutes ago, 77again said:

Eierman loses to Krgystan 13-13. Eierman was winning 13-11 with 6 seconds remaining in match. Eierman was put down in par terre. For some unknown reason he tried to stand up with 3 seconds remaining, got immediately launched for 2, and lost on criteria.

Didn’t he have a 4 pointer? I wasn’t counting but I thought he has criteria 

[TBar1977 3,842]

9 minutes ago, Housebuye said:

Loses argument. Starts name calling. 
  
classic

I was being nice. 

[wrestfan 614]

1 minute ago, 77again said:

Eierman loses to Krgystan 13-13. Eierman was winning 13-11 with 6 seconds remaining in match. Eierman was put down in par terre. For some unknown reason he tried to stand up with 3 seconds remaining, got immediately launched for 2, and lost on criteria.

no he was already down 13-13. no points for that late action.

it was 9-8 for Eierman, after that action. I assume they call it 4-2. it was 13-11. then takedown for KGZ 13-13. but you can doubt that TD because it was when the mat chairman was yelling "stop , stop"

[pa in taiwan 87]

That last throw at the buzzer was a beauty. No points, but wow! Should have been 5. 

[pa in taiwan 87]

McBryde wins 5-0 against Estonia at 79kg.

[Plasmodium 1,603]

21 minutes ago, TBar1977 said:

I was being nice. 

You were being best.

[spladle08 739]

A little disappointed I wasn't proven wrong this session. Wanted some finalist. Tomorrow will be better, maybe, ok i dont think it will, but im hopeful.

[treep2000 905]

19 minutes ago, spladle08 said:

A little disappointed I wasn't proven wrong this session. Wanted some finalist. Tomorrow will be better, maybe, ok i dont think it will, but im hopeful.

my gut is telling me that Nickal is our best shot at a finalist, with Kerkvliet a potential medalist.  Otherwise, probably going to be a long tourney for Team USA.

[spladle08 739]

my gut is telling me that Nickal is our best shot at a finalist, with Kerkvliet a potential medalist.  Otherwise, probably going to be a long tourney for Team USA.

Yeah I've had the Bo convo a few places (havent seen the draws if theyre out yet) but... there's always 1 or 2 legitimate senior level wrestlers per each upper weight. So i expect him to be the underdog if him and "legit" guy meet, however his lack of a consistantly effective takedown have me a little concerned (against the non-legit guys).
DT struggles with the same thing, however he out-paces guys to where his lack of dependable takedown, turns into, "get you tired enough, I can easily get to a leg then we can scramble, and im unstoppable there"
Bo doesnt have that aggression and i can just see him losing an actionless 3-2 type match to a more defensive guy.

[spladle08 739]

my gut is telling me that Nickal is our best shot at a finalist, with Kerkvliet a potential medalist.  Otherwise, probably going to be a long tourney for Team USA.

And on Kerkvliet, I want to believe he's the same threat he was in Juniors, but he struggled a bit with Wood and Wood simply isnt "elite", the size, and lack of action over the past year, have me pretty pessimistic, heres hoping the athleticism can carry him to a medal.

[klehner 397]

37 minutes ago, spladle08 said:

A little disappointed I wasn't proven wrong this session. Wanted some finalist. Tomorrow will be better, maybe, ok i dont think it will, but im hopeful.

Tomorrow is the combined PSU/Cornell team showing, right?

[leshismore 211]

What time are Semis?

[calot 200]

36 minutes ago, klehner said:

Tomorrow is the combined PSU/Cornell team showing, right?

  kerk Hwt

Edited October 28, 2019 by calot