Alwayswrestling 192 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Housebuye said: I agree, but Nolf was severely injured and Hidlay is senior level ready. I was surprised Nolf could hang at all, given his injury Nolf was injured? I am pretty sure his senior year he was not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 901 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Housebuye said: I’m ready to watch Nolf dominate the field and remind everyone he was robbed of the Hodge I got IMar, myself. However I believe Nolf is the clear #2 in this field. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 901 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, spladle08 said: 1 hour ago, Housebuye said: I’m ready to watch Nolf dominate the field and remind everyone he was robbed of the Hodge You mistyped: Hidlay was robbed of a finals You know that he was merely robbed of a lead early in the match. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 725 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 You know that he was merely robbed of a lead early in the match.Let me live my fantasy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 321 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, ugarte said: And another one - takedown and 3 turns to move on. in 40 seconds. Manville couldn't stop leading with his head and Berreyesa moves into the semis, 5-2. the 1, 3, 4 and 5 seeds all knocked out before the semis at 77kg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klehner 390 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, ugarte said: Manville couldn't stop leading with his head and Berreyesa moves into the semis, 5-2. the 1, 3, 4 and 5 seeds all knocked out before the semis at 77kg. A lot of whining from Manville in that match. Who does he wrestle for, again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 725 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 You know who looks like a physics teacher? Tariq Wilson. Murtazaliev and Batirov not so much.Yep he would be an example of somebody doing "more" with what you would consider a "less athletic" body. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 901 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, klehner said: A lot of whining from Manville in that match. Who does he wrestle for, again? The USofA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 725 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 What time does Mens FS kick off tomorrow? I'm going to wake up and salivate over brackets (or are those released tonight) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ugarte 321 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 Berreyesa out, losing 5-0 to Hassan Hassan Ahmed Mohamed. What happens to the OT bid if a foreign wrestler wins? Top-placing American or expedited citizenship proceedings? 1 whaletail reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 725 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 Anyway, dont know if i missed it but start time tomorrow for Mens Free. is it 9 Est. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 725 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 All times shown are Eastern. Friday, November 15 9:30 AM – 5:30 PM: Greco-Roman Session I 9:30 AM – 5:30 PM: Women’s Freestyle Session I 6:00 PM – 7:30 PM: Greco-Roman Medal Matches 6:00 PM – 7:30 PM: Women's Freestyle Medal Matches Saturday, November 16 9:30 AM – 4:00 PM: Men’s Freestyle Session I 6:00 PM – 7:30 PM: Men’s Freestyle Medal Matches Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 725 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, spladle08 said: All times shown are Eastern. Friday, November 15 9:30 AM – 5:30 PM: Greco-Roman Session I 9:30 AM – 5:30 PM: Women’s Freestyle Session I 6:00 PM – 7:30 PM: Greco-Roman Medal Matches 6:00 PM – 7:30 PM: Women's Freestyle Medal Matches Saturday, November 16 9:30 AM – 4:00 PM: Men’s Freestyle Session I 6:00 PM – 7:30 PM: Men’s Freestyle Medal Matches Thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 725 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, spladle08 said: Thank you No problem sir, enjoy the event Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 901 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 Goofy bassturd. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 426 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) . Edited November 15, 2019 by bnwtwg wrong thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 725 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 Goofy bassturd.Lol i just wanted to know the times. Whats your most anticipated finals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treep2000 901 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 5 hours ago, spladle08 said: I had some beers when I maybe dismissed him as a "Wrestler of Note" I just think he is more Marstellar level than anything, he's 100% a "Wildcard" I guess with Mehki, I see the possible upside, with Nolf and that second tier bunch (I've basically already jumped ship with my faith).. I see it as like "If Dake and JB quit today and anyone else made the team, we wouldnt medal" Sure thats not true, but Mehki is still kind of a senior level unknown, (his last international showing left a lot to be desired) and I guess I'm holding out hope with that "Wildcard" But sure, Nolf could easily be 3rd behind Burroughs and Dake, I just want a new medal threat to emerge, and I just don't see that with any of the "knowns" k 1 spladle08 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 901 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, spladle08 said: 52 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Goofy bassturd. Lol i just wanted to know the times. Whats your most anticipated finals. Let me give this a stab: -57kg- Honestly? Hoping to see NATO-Suriano. It may be the only wrestling match in the history of ever where there is a negative percentage of body fat on the mat, including whomever they send out as the ref. Projection, though, using Flo's projected seeds: Semis-NATO over Cruz, Garrett over Clark Finals-NATO over Garrett I think Clark takes out Richards and Gross, then losing to Garrett. I am assuming everyone in these projections are healthy and take NATO over Suriano in an intense one. Whoever between those two surfaces, I believe takes Cruz comfortably. Darkhorse/Sleeper: Clark-When healthy he's as talented as they come. He's been planning for 57kg for a couple years now, and I believe he'll have made the appropriate cut(unlike Gross). His length will provide fits. -65kg- Wouldn't it be something if Backpack Lizak took Molinaro to the shed? Could you get more opposite body builds? Semis-Molinaro over Henderson, McKenna over Oliver Finals-Molinaro over McKenna I do think McKenna will appear to have a chip on his shoulder and will give Oliver everything he can handle. Henderson has been hot, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him up on GHulk either, but Molinaro has been wrestling insanely well as well. Darkhorse/Sleeper: Whitford-He's as athletic as they come, and if he's firing on all cylinders should be able to give Molinaro all he can handle. We expected HUGE things out of this guy at the collegiate level, it just didn't work out for him, and he appears to be back training full-time so I am expecting great things come the Open. -74kg- Oh what I wouldn't do to see Massa take it to IMar and qualify for OTT. I just don't see anyone taking out IMar. Semis-IMar over Massa, Nolf over Joseph Finals-IMar over Joseph If these seeds hold, the top half is just considerably weaker as far as depth goes. It is what it is, but I got me a gut feeling that Cenzo is fixing to earn himself a nickname of Bull this weekend as well. Then we'll have three toons to call 'the Bull' this season. Darkhorse/Sleeper: Sorensen-Honestly never was a fan of his, but looking at these seeds? He could surprise some folks with his grit. He can wrestle with the best(he has) and I wouldn't be surprised to see him give Lewis all he could handle(perhaps burning him out for his match with Cenzo?). -86kg- Wouldn't it have been funny to see Amine here, and have him run the table? Michigan homer bias aside, I would have loved to see how he matches up with all these toons, even Ringer(especially Ringer). Semis-Ringer over Jackson, Brooks over Martin Finals-Ringer over Brooks If seeds play out how they lay, I'll be disappointed, since it doesn't really give us much juice for too fresh of matchups for Ringer(Jackson is a few months removed from 79 and Brooks just doesn't excite me)(PS-I think I will always pick Brooks over Martin from this point forward...). Fortunately we already know former world silver is registered, so these seeds will shake up. Darkhorse/Sleeper #1: Brooks-The #2 seeds as a sleeper? You got it. He may not move the needle as far as excitement, but he, to me, is the clear #2 in this field(domestics only) yet he doesn't really get that respect. Darkhorse/Sleeper #2: Finesilver-Seeing him registered for 77kg had me concerned for his size at 86kg, however I am truly hoping we see him at 86kg this weekend. Even before Cox's interview saying that he was looking real good, there were rumblings that he had jumped a few levels. The Finesilvers in general have all seemed to have improved a lot the last couple of years from where they were. -97kg- Okay this pisses me off. There should be a true second here, without a doubt, same as 130kg for Greco(There may be other weights but these are the only two that come to mind of those who have qualifiers already in the field-Coon you're my boy but you ruined the chances of the guys on your half of the bracket). I want to see Macc-Gadson or Macc-Walz. Semis-Snyder over Macch, Gadson over Zillmer Finals-Snyder over Gadson If Gadson beats Snyder(he won't) then he'll have earned it and I won't gripe about no true-2nd. If Macch outperforms(meaning loses less badly) I'll be even more annoyed. I don't see anyone 9 or below beating anyone 3-7 and the only one I think stands a chance to beat Gadson is Zillmer. It just isn't fair that half the bracket essentially doesn't matter when every person on that half is here in an attempt to qualify by being the highest NON-qualifer to place. -125- Removing Cassar and inserting Steveson at the #1 spot because that is what it would be had they waited a few hours to do the preseed projections. Bummer because I wanted to see Cassar against senior level. Semis-Steveson over Orndorff, Bradley over Cassar(Nick) Finals-Steveson over Bradley Bradley will have lost more of a step, and I fully believe Steveson will be ready, even if I am unsure on his training situation with Nelson not entered(is Nelson banged up or hurt?). Either way, Steveson is our clear favorite here. Keep in mind Dhesi will likely also shift these seeds. SO? To answer your question, my most anticipated finals? Ringer VS Makojev. Most anticipated finals from our domestic 'preseed projections' would have to be 57kg. Most anticipated wrestler per weight: 57kg-Suriano 65kg-McKenna 74kg-Massa 86kg-Martin 97kg-Macch 125kg-Orndorff There you go @spladle08 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treep2000 901 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Let me give this a stab: -57kg- Honestly? Hoping to see NATO-Suriano. It may be the only wrestling match in the history of ever where there is a negative percentage of body fat on the mat, including whomever they send out as the ref. Projection, though, using Flo's projected seeds: Semis-NATO over Cruz, Garrett over Clark Finals-NATO over Garrett I think Clark takes out Richards and Gross, then losing to Garrett. I am assuming everyone in these projections are healthy and take NATO over Suriano in an intense one. Whoever between those two surfaces, I believe takes Cruz comfortably. Darkhorse/Sleeper: Clark-When healthy he's as talented as they come. He's been planning for 57kg for a couple years now, and I believe he'll have made the appropriate cut(unlike Gross). His length will provide fits. -65kg- Wouldn't it be something if Backpack Lizak took Molinaro to the shed? Could you get more opposite body builds? Semis-Molinaro over Henderson, McKenna over Oliver Finals-Molinaro over McKenna I do think McKenna will appear to have a chip on his shoulder and will give Oliver everything he can handle. Henderson has been hot, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him up on GHulk either, but Molinaro has been wrestling insanely well as well. Darkhorse/Sleeper: Whitford-He's as athletic as they come, and if he's firing on all cylinders should be able to give Molinaro all he can handle. We expected HUGE things out of this guy at the collegiate level, it just didn't work out for him, and he appears to be back training full-time so I am expecting great things come the Open. -74kg- Oh what I wouldn't do to see Massa take it to IMar and qualify for OTT. I just don't see anyone taking out IMar. Semis-IMar over Massa, Nolf over Joseph Finals-IMar over Joseph If these seeds hold, the top half is just considerably weaker as far as depth goes. It is what it is, but I got me a gut feeling that Cenzo is fixing to earn himself a nickname of Bull this weekend as well. Then we'll have three toons to call 'the Bull' this season. Darkhorse/Sleeper: Sorensen-Honestly never was a fan of his, but looking at these seeds? He could surprise some folks with his grit. He can wrestle with the best(he has) and I wouldn't be surprised to see him give Lewis all he could handle(perhaps burning him out for his match with Cenzo?). -86kg- Wouldn't it have been funny to see Amine here, and have him run the table? Michigan homer bias aside, I would have loved to see how he matches up with all these toons, even Ringer(especially Ringer). Semis-Ringer over Jackson, Brooks over Martin Finals-Ringer over Brooks If seeds play out how they lay, I'll be disappointed, since it doesn't really give us much juice for too fresh of matchups for Ringer(Jackson is a few months removed from 79 and Brooks just doesn't excite me)(PS-I think I will always pick Brooks over Martin from this point forward...). Fortunately we already know former world silver is registered, so these seeds will shake up. Darkhorse/Sleeper #1: Brooks-The #2 seeds as a sleeper? You got it. He may not move the needle as far as excitement, but he, to me, is the clear #2 in this field(domestics only) yet he doesn't really get that respect. Darkhorse/Sleeper #2: Finesilver-Seeing him registered for 77kg had me concerned for his size at 86kg, however I am truly hoping we see him at 86kg this weekend. Even before Cox's interview saying that he was looking real good, there were rumblings that he had jumped a few levels. The Finesilvers in general have all seemed to have improved a lot the last couple of years from where they were. -97kg- Okay this pisses me off. There should be a true second here, without a doubt, same as 130kg for Greco(There may be other weights but these are the only two that come to mind of those who have qualifiers already in the field-Coon you're my boy but you ruined the chances of the guys on your half of the bracket). I want to see Macc-Gadson or Macc-Walz. Semis-Snyder over Macch, Gadson over Zillmer Finals-Snyder over Gadson If Gadson beats Snyder(he won't) then he'll have earned it and I won't gripe about no true-2nd. If Macch outperforms(meaning loses less badly) I'll be even more annoyed. I don't see anyone 9 or below beating anyone 3-7 and the only one I think stands a chance to beat Gadson is Zillmer. It just isn't fair that half the bracket essentially doesn't matter when every person on that half is here in an attempt to qualify by being the highest NON-qualifer to place. -125- Removing Cassar and inserting Steveson at the #1 spot because that is what it would be had they waited a few hours to do the preseed projections. Bummer because I wanted to see Cassar against senior level. Semis-Steveson over Orndorff, Bradley over Cassar(Nick) Finals-Steveson over Bradley Bradley will have lost more of a step, and I fully believe Steveson will be ready, even if I am unsure on his training situation with Nelson not entered(is Nelson banged up or hurt?). Either way, Steveson is our clear favorite here. Keep in mind Dhesi will likely also shift these seeds. SO? To answer your question, my most anticipated finals? Ringer VS Makojev. Most anticipated finals from our domestic 'preseed projections' would have to be 57kg. Most anticipated wrestler per weight: 57kg-Suriano 65kg-McKenna 74kg-Massa 86kg-Martin 97kg-Macch 125kg-Orndorff There you go @spladle08 At 86kg, please don't forget about Makoev. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 901 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, treep2000 said: At 86kg, please don't forget about Makoev. I didn't. Read towards the bottom. Him-Ringer is my most anticipated finals. In the beginning you'll see that I was using Nomad's 'preseed projections' even though they only included domestic entries. 1 spladle08 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treep2000 901 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, nhs67 said: I didn't. Read towards the bottom. Him-Ringer is my most anticipated finals. In the beginning you'll see that I was using Nomad's 'preseed projections' even though they only included domestic entries. k Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 901 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, treep2000 said: k Apologies. It's a bit of a read. I got going and forgot to stop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 725 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 Let me give this a stab: -57kg- Honestly? Hoping to see NATO-Suriano. It may be the only wrestling match in the history of ever where there is a negative percentage of body fat on the mat, including whomever they send out as the ref. Projection, though, using Flo's projected seeds: Semis-NATO over Cruz, Garrett over Clark Finals-NATO over Garrett I think Clark takes out Richards and Gross, then losing to Garrett. I am assuming everyone in these projections are healthy and take NATO over Suriano in an intense one. Whoever between those two surfaces, I believe takes Cruz comfortably. Darkhorse/Sleeper: Clark-When healthy he's as talented as they come. He's been planning for 57kg for a couple years now, and I believe he'll have made the appropriate cut(unlike Gross). His length will provide fits. -65kg- Wouldn't it be something if Backpack Lizak took Molinaro to the shed? Could you get more opposite body builds? Semis-Molinaro over Henderson, McKenna over Oliver Finals-Molinaro over McKenna I do think McKenna will appear to have a chip on his shoulder and will give Oliver everything he can handle. Henderson has been hot, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him up on GHulk either, but Molinaro has been wrestling insanely well as well. Darkhorse/Sleeper: Whitford-He's as athletic as they come, and if he's firing on all cylinders should be able to give Molinaro all he can handle. We expected HUGE things out of this guy at the collegiate level, it just didn't work out for him, and he appears to be back training full-time so I am expecting great things come the Open. -74kg- Oh what I wouldn't do to see Massa take it to IMar and qualify for OTT. I just don't see anyone taking out IMar. Semis-IMar over Massa, Nolf over Joseph Finals-IMar over Joseph If these seeds hold, the top half is just considerably weaker as far as depth goes. It is what it is, but I got me a gut feeling that Cenzo is fixing to earn himself a nickname of Bull this weekend as well. Then we'll have three toons to call 'the Bull' this season. Darkhorse/Sleeper: Sorensen-Honestly never was a fan of his, but looking at these seeds? He could surprise some folks with his grit. He can wrestle with the best(he has) and I wouldn't be surprised to see him give Lewis all he could handle(perhaps burning him out for his match with Cenzo?). -86kg- Wouldn't it have been funny to see Amine here, and have him run the table? Michigan homer bias aside, I would have loved to see how he matches up with all these toons, even Ringer(especially Ringer). Semis-Ringer over Jackson, Brooks over Martin Finals-Ringer over Brooks If seeds play out how they lay, I'll be disappointed, since it doesn't really give us much juice for too fresh of matchups for Ringer(Jackson is a few months removed from 79 and Brooks just doesn't excite me)(PS-I think I will always pick Brooks over Martin from this point forward...). Fortunately we already know former world silver is registered, so these seeds will shake up. Darkhorse/Sleeper #1: Brooks-The #2 seeds as a sleeper? You got it. He may not move the needle as far as excitement, but he, to me, is the clear #2 in this field(domestics only) yet he doesn't really get that respect. Darkhorse/Sleeper #2: Finesilver-Seeing him registered for 77kg had me concerned for his size at 86kg, however I am truly hoping we see him at 86kg this weekend. Even before Cox's interview saying that he was looking real good, there were rumblings that he had jumped a few levels. The Finesilvers in general have all seemed to have improved a lot the last couple of years from where they were. -97kg- Okay this pisses me off. There should be a true second here, without a doubt, same as 130kg for Greco(There may be other weights but these are the only two that come to mind of those who have qualifiers already in the field-Coon you're my boy but you ruined the chances of the guys on your half of the bracket). I want to see Macc-Gadson or Macc-Walz. Semis-Snyder over Macch, Gadson over Zillmer Finals-Snyder over Gadson If Gadson beats Snyder(he won't) then he'll have earned it and I won't gripe about no true-2nd. If Macch outperforms(meaning loses less badly) I'll be even more annoyed. I don't see anyone 9 or below beating anyone 3-7 and the only one I think stands a chance to beat Gadson is Zillmer. It just isn't fair that half the bracket essentially doesn't matter when every person on that half is here in an attempt to qualify by being the highest NON-qualifer to place. -125- Removing Cassar and inserting Steveson at the #1 spot because that is what it would be had they waited a few hours to do the preseed projections. Bummer because I wanted to see Cassar against senior level. Semis-Steveson over Orndorff, Bradley over Cassar(Nick) Finals-Steveson over Bradley Bradley will have lost more of a step, and I fully believe Steveson will be ready, even if I am unsure on his training situation with Nelson not entered(is Nelson banged up or hurt?). Either way, Steveson is our clear favorite here. Keep in mind Dhesi will likely also shift these seeds. SO? To answer your question, my most anticipated finals? Ringer VS Makojev. Most anticipated finals from our domestic 'preseed projections' would have to be 57kg. Most anticipated wrestler per weight: 57kg-Suriano 65kg-McKenna 74kg-Massa 86kg-Martin 97kg-Macch 125kg-Orndorff There you go @spladle08Ummm this was website legitimate. Did you really just type this to type it. I cant be more impressed and i love the breakdown . Tip of cap and applause sir 1 nhs67 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spladle08 725 Report post Posted November 15, 2019 Its just a good post. One more tip of the cap. Also go Ringer. 1 nhs67 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites