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24 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie v2 said:

Not that it's a realistic scenario anyway, but Echemendia isn't that big.  Sasso would have to bump to 157... winning that weight is a tough ask.  

Not according to those in the cyclone room. He was nearly as big as Carr.

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Has the potential to be a huge factor in the team race if he goes this year, especially if he's not going 141. At 149 and 157, Penn State isn't expected to score huge points, but Iowa has AAs at that weight. If he knocks one of them down a peg, could be the difference.

 

ETA: This could be a nothing burger if he ends up never getting eligible or goes full-time Freestyle. But on talent, he could be a multi-time champ. Really fascinated to see where his career goes.

 

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He's really going to struggle.  I don't know why everybody is hyping him up so much.  He has potential to be good, but keep in mind he was having very close matches with Arizona high school kids.  If it were PA or some other powerhouse state that would be different, but let's face it, AZ is maybe a top 20 state and that's being pretty generous IMO.  He's going to find college wrestling a lot tougher than blowing out high school kids he's 7 years older than.  His best win in high school was against a D2 commit who as much as I liked him as a wrestler, is a pretty median D2 recruit.  Also it's going to be a challenge for him academically.  So I wouldn't bank on Ohio State, or wherever he does end up, counting on him to produce anything right away or maybe ever.  

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4 minutes ago, TripNSweep said:

He's really going to struggle.  I don't know why everybody is hyping him up so much.  He has potential to be good, but keep in mind he was having very close matches with Arizona high school kids.  If it were PA or some other powerhouse state that would be different, but let's face it, AZ is maybe a top 20 state and that's being pretty generous IMO.  He's going to find college wrestling a lot tougher than blowing out high school kids he's 7 years older than.  His best win in high school was against a D2 commit who as much as I liked him as a wrestler, is a pretty median D2 recruit.  Also it's going to be a challenge for him academically.  So I wouldn't bank on Ohio State, or wherever he does end up, counting on him to produce anything right away or maybe ever.  

I thought he was 19?  Essentially no different than Mark Hall/Logan Stieber age wise at that level. In terms of academics, there are many classes at every big school like tOSU/OSU/PSU/Alabama for athletes to stay eligible, as long as he shows up to class.  Your post seems very bitter for some unknown reason.  

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My logic and suggestion, FWIW.  

He should go 157.  

Why...

  • He's a freestyle specialist.  I assume he has aspirational goals, specifically for 2024 (at this point).  If so, the only logical choices will be 65kg or 74kg. 
  •  He's young at 19.  Holding 65kg for the next 5 years may not be in his best interest.  Migrating to 74kg seems more plausible
  •  By going 157 now, he fills a gap for tOSU while simultaneously builds his body for his ultimate goal(s).  70kg in the regular years and fighting for that spot as he continues to pack on muscle.  

So... by going 157, he fulfills his dream while fulfilling a Buckeye need.  Sasso at 157 is a lesser prospect than Sasso at 149.

Lastly... all he needs to do is forget Folk.  His strength is on his feet.  Wrestle each match like it's freestyle like Snyder did.  If his takedown game is what everyone thinks it is, he won't need to worry too awful much about the rest, a la Snyder.

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12 minutes ago, TripNSweep said:

He's really going to struggle.  I don't know why everybody is hyping him up so much.  He has potential to be good, but keep in mind he was having very close matches with Arizona high school kids.  If it were PA or some other powerhouse state that would be different, but let's face it, AZ is maybe a top 20 state and that's being pretty generous IMO.  He's going to find college wrestling a lot tougher than blowing out high school kids he's 7 years older than.  His best win in high school was against a D2 commit who as much as I liked him as a wrestler, is a pretty median D2 recruit.  Also it's going to be a challenge for him academically.  So I wouldn't bank on Ohio State, or wherever he does end up, counting on him to produce anything right away or maybe ever.  

I have no knowledge of his HS matches but you realize he just beat Josh Saunders 10-0 and also beat Victor Voinovich handily? I have no doubt he should RS though as the top college guys could potentially ride him for 2 periods.

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Unless he really works at it he'll see a lot of the mat, face first as he's ridden into oblivion.

Turns in Folkstyle will take some getting used to as one actually has to turn and keep it there rather than the "roll me over" silliness of Freestyle.

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27 minutes ago, TripNSweep said:

He's really going to struggle.  I don't know why everybody is hyping him up so much.  He has potential to be good, but keep in mind he was having very close matches with Arizona high school kids.  If it were PA or some other powerhouse state that would be different, but let's face it, AZ is maybe a top 20 state and that's being pretty generous IMO.  He's going to find college wrestling a lot tougher than blowing out high school kids he's 7 years older than.  His best win in high school was against a D2 commit who as much as I liked him as a wrestler, is a pretty median D2 recruit.  Also it's going to be a challenge for him academically.  So I wouldn't bank on Ohio State, or wherever he does end up, counting on him to produce anything right away or maybe ever.  

Post a match he’s lost. Otherwise “very close” is just another win and shouldn’t be used as a knock against him. 

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27 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

I guess Saunders is rump roast then?

I honestly don't think he's an elite prospect. 

 

Nothing to do with my opinion of Echemendia, however.  Echemendia will likely be awesome.  Not a horrible trade if Ohio RTC lands J'Den.  Snyder/Kerk for Cox/Ech

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10 minutes ago, LemonPie said:

I honestly don't think he's an elite prospect. 

 

Nothing to do with my opinion of Echemendia, however.  Echemendia will likely be awesome.  Not a horrible trade if Ohio RTC lands J'Den.  Snyder/Kerk for Cox/Ech

Saunders did follow the loss to AE up by losing to Bretli Reyna at Super 32.

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57 minutes ago, TripNSweep said:

 He's going to find college wrestling a lot tougher than blowing out high school kids he's 7 years older than.  

Do you have some solid source for this, or is this another I don’t like someone/something so I’m going to blast BS about it, truth be damned, because I’m an anonymous internet poster...thing?

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1 hour ago, DocBZ said:

I have no knowledge of his HS matches but you realize he just beat Josh Saunders 10-0 and also beat Victor Voinovich handily? I have no doubt he should RS though as the top college guys could potentially ride him for 2 periods.

He barely defeated Dawon Andrews, a Notre Dame D2 commit in OT in the finals at Flowing Wells, and beat Denen Fernandez a 2x state champion by 1 point in the finals of the Peoria Invitational.  A win is a win, but it's ridiculous to think he's anywhere near being an AA contender at the D1 level if he's having close matches with the top wrestlers in Arizona, who as much as I love my home state, are with few exceptions rarely competitive on a national level.  Also blanking people in freestyle is a lot easier when you can end a match with 3 moves.  Freestyle is a different sport too.  

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35 minutes ago, Lurker said:

Do you have some solid source for this, or is this another I don’t like someone/something so I’m going to blast BS about it, truth be damned, because I’m an anonymous internet poster...thing?

His birthdate was on his Facebook page which has since been scrubbed.  

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1 hour ago, TripNSweep said:

He's really going to struggle.  I don't know why everybody is hyping him up so much.  He has potential to be good, but keep in mind he was having very close matches with Arizona high school kids.  If it were PA or some other powerhouse state that would be different, but let's face it, AZ is maybe a top 20 state and that's being pretty generous IMO.  He's going to find college wrestling a lot tougher than blowing out high school kids he's 7 years older than.  His best win in high school was against a D2 commit who as much as I liked him as a wrestler, is a pretty median D2 recruit.  Also it's going to be a challenge for him academically.  So I wouldn't bank on Ohio State, or wherever he does end up, counting on him to produce anything right away or maybe ever.  

Absurd comment as it relates to his recent competition...it’s as if he hasn’t wrestled anyone since the AZ state tournament? And yes I’m well aware of the differences between folk and free...and I’m altogether ignoring his Fargo greco performance. I don’t know how you can watch him wrestle over the past 6 months and say he’s going to really struggle and he’s just some guy who squeaked our a state title in AZ against D2 caliber competition. You know who else agrees with me? Tom Ryan, Kevin Dresser, the Brands, Zeke Jones, and whoever else who was recruiting him (including Cael according to Willie) before he committed to tOSU. Those guys also know the difference between free and folk and what kind of styles can transition with success.

Your comment about him being 7 years older is played out and ignorant. He’s currently 20 (he was 19 at Fargo). He never tried to hide that fact. Look at the pictures he posted on social media of his journey from Guatemala to the US. When he was held and processed at the US border he was in an adult detainment facility and posted pics of him and the fellow men (clearly not juveniles) he was housed with...because he was 18 at the time. He’s never tried to hide his age. He’s currently 20...less than 4 years younger than 3 of PSU’s starters this season. 

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