Brandon Eggum and Gopher wrestling

[Gopher82 33]

21 minutes ago, Gopher82 said:

 

 

Edited November 19, 2019 by Gopher82

[Gopher82 33]

10 hours ago, WF89 said:

The 08/09 Minnesota team coached by JRob was inferior to the 18/19 team coached by Eggum.  

How so? That team had Jason Ness, Zach Sanders, Dustin Schlatter etc and the incoming recruiting class had some combination of Tony Nelson, Kevin Steinhaus, Jake Dietchler, Cody Yohn.

Eggum's had 1 recruit as head coach in the last 4 years that has AA and it was Gable. Mitch Mckee was a J recruit I beleive. Hard to believe and they currently have zero RS freshman to write home about. 

He's had a few transfer in and AA however. 

 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2019 by Gopher82

[tommygun 52]

I doubt AD Coyle is even looking at the wrestling program and the possibility of making a change.  He should be at this point.  

[Housebuye 2,437]

I’m not totally clear on the hate, but you know the program much better than I do. 
 

Looks to me like they will end the season top 10 with 3-5 AAs

 

[buckeyehomer 56]

10 hours ago, jchapman said:

Ask Bubba Jenkins and Bobby Douglas if Carl is a nice guy.

Or Thomas Haines

[Gopher82 33]

1 hour ago, Housebuye said:

I’m not totally clear on the hate, but you know the program much better than I do. 
 

Looks to me like they will end the season top 10 with 3-5 AAs

 

That's the best case scenario and 2 graduate this season with zero quality depth filling in for them next season. It will be even worse next season.

Two top recruits in next years class just visited multiple times and both recently committed to Missouri and Northwestern.

[Gopher82 33]

52 minutes ago, buckeyehomer said:

Or Thomas Haines

What about the Nevils? Especially if Kerkvliet goes there.

[goheels1812 676]

22 hours ago, Gopher82 said:

Has anyone else noticed how far Gopher wrestling has fallen since Eggum took over 4 years ago? The current roster is possibly the worst roster the Gophers have had in 30 year's.

The current recruiting is terrible. The top recruit from last season "Devin Winston" is transferring. As coach he is ultimately responsible for his wrestlers actions, so he should take some accountability for the Gable Steveson incident and he was the top assistant coach during the Xanex scandal. Oh and he was the guy that told Lizak to take bottom in the championship match. He should have been fired on the spot for that call. The entire staff should have been let go but wrestling isn't important.

Let's now backup to recruting. Mark Hall, Brady Berge, Taylor Venz, Seth Gross, Daniel Kerkvliet, Patrick Kennedy, Ryan Sokal are all top recruits that have left the state during Eggums time as coach or top assistant coach. 

The Gophers have 2 wrestlers, yes 2 wrestlers that can help win a NCAA championship. Brayton Lee and Gable Steveson if he ever wrestles again for the Gophers. Mitch McKee too but he's graduating this season. 

Here is some former top recruits that have not lived up to the hype since joining the Gophers. Owen Webster, Bobby Steveson, Ryan Thomas, Jake Short, Tommy Thorn, Jake Allar, Nathan Rose and the list goes on and on. Patrick McKee is way overrated as well. 

He did however help secure funds for a new facility that he said was needed for recruiting but that hasn't been shown true yet. The Gophers lost to Rider Friday night. 

They need rid themselves of the nepotism on staff and hire a new outsider. 

 

 

 

That’s disappointing to hear that Devin Winston is transferring, I hadn’t heard that yet. He left Coleman Scott and unc high and dry pretty late in the recruiting process to commit to Eggum. Now unc has a gaping hole at 184 and Winston could most likely be starting for the heels right now. Oh well. 

Edited November 19, 2019 by goheels1812

[hawkeye73 3]

Minnesota needs a new AD also someone who cares about the wrestling program. 

This is not all Eggum problem. 

[headshuck 2,604]

I think the Winston rumor is incorrect.

[powershouse 106]

J Rob stuck around too long. He shouldn’t have asked for or been given that last extension. Program hit bottom when J Rob’s team lost to Indiana- at home!
I think Eggum/Becker/Brandvold make a heck of a staff and they seem to be moving in the right direction but still have a long way to go.
Coyle is the best AD MN has had since Joel Maturi. Maturi May have been more supportive of non revenue sports (although I have seen Coyle at wrestling, soccer and gymnastics events) but Coyle is proving to be much better at managing revenue sports.

[Housebuye 2,437]

16 minutes ago, headshuck said:

I think the Winston rumor is incorrect.

It’s not. He said it himself. 
 

Edited November 19, 2019 by Housebuye

[Gopher82 33]

1 hour ago, powershouse said:

J Rob stuck around too long. He shouldn’t have asked for or been given that last extension. Program hit bottom when J Rob’s team lost to Indiana- at home!
I think Eggum/Becker/Brandvold make a heck of a staff and they seem to be moving in the right direction but still have a long way to go.
Coyle is the best AD MN has had since Joel Maturi. Maturi May have been more supportive of non revenue sports (although I have seen Coyle at wrestling, soccer and gymnastics events) but Coyle is proving to be much better at managing revenue sports.

I agree and disagree. Eggum will be finishing his 4th season this season and it's very likely unless Brayton Lee AA which is very possible he will have only recruited and coached 1 AA, Gable. How can you be happy with those results after 4 year's? And who on this team besides Brayton might suddenly AA next season? This answer is most likely nobody.

 

Imagine Carl or Tom going 4 year's recruiting 1 AA wrestler. 

Edited November 19, 2019 by Gopher82

[tommygun 52]

Wow.  That says so much!  

[wrestlingnerd 3,003]

59 minutes ago, Gopher82 said:

Imagine Carl or Tom going 4 year's recruiting 1 AA wrestler. 

Eggum had a pretty hot start, I thought, but this is pretty damning. Can't disagree that there are better guys available for a top B10 job.

[bnwtwg 1,065]

Gable Stev***n entering transfer portal confirmed [insert crossed fingers emoji]

[Gantry 1,872]

The "4 years recruiting 1 AA" thing to me is misleading. 

Eggum's interim title was removed on January 2017 - so he hasn't been the official head coach three years yet.   Also by January all the elite recruits are gone and nobody was going to be able to recruit or keep recruits in the middle of that xanax/jrob scandal.  I honestly don't remember how many recruits left or got but to me he gets a mulligan for the class of 2017 recruits.   It was a total disaster and you can't blame Eggum for not bringing in elite talent that year.  Dealt an impossible hand, maybe others disagree here. 

That leaves the class of 2018 non-redshirting  freshman recruits which he got an AA from Steveson out of.  The 2019 recruits and 2018 redshirts haven't finished their freshman year and have had zero chance to AA. 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2019 by Gantry

[jammen 337]

Note also that JRob's first six seasons were a struggle, 66-52 in duals.  Eggum is 32-17 so far.

[WF89 109]

17 hours ago, Gopher82 said:

How so? That team had Jason Ness, Zach Sanders, Dustin Schlatter etc and the incoming recruiting class had some combination of Tony Nelson, Kevin Steinhaus, Jake Dietchler, Cody Yohn.

Eggum's had 1 recruit as head coach in the last 4 years that has AA and it was Gable. Mitch Mckee was a J recruit I beleive. Hard to believe and they currently have zero RS freshman to write home about. 

He's had a few transfer in and AA however. 

 

 

 

Tony Nelson #49 recruit

Kevin Steinhaus #84 recruit

Cody Yohn #91 recruit

Jake Deitchler #9 recruit (unfortunately didn’t go as planned)

 

I'm surprised you didn’t bring up the rest of the C Yohn/Deitchler class that was ranked #1:

 

#3 Mario Mason

#34 Matt Mincey

#39 Atticus Disney

#44 Ryland Geiger

 

Also of note, the 2 highest ranked recruits in Nelson’s class were #22 Alec Ortiz and #31 David Thorn.  AA Danny Zilverberg was unranked.

[MNRodent 228]

Totally disagree with the criticisms directed towards Eggum.  He has had to deal with some bad choices by some young men, and has made the best of some tough situations.  Even with some mediocre recruiting classes they are coming off a 4th in Big Ten (just 6 pts behind Iowa) and 8th at NCAAs.  Some of you are overreacting to the ugly Rider match, which was lightning in a bottle for the Broncs.  Ski-U-Mah!

 

 

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6 hours ago, wrestlingnerd said:

Eggum had a pretty hot start, I thought, but this is pretty damning. Can't disagree that there are better guys available for a top B10 job.

Duane Goldman!

[Antitroll2828 996]

7 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

Gable Stev***n entering transfer portal confirmed [insert crossed fingers emoji]

This isn’t the NFL or SEC football ,no university will accept him until he’s cleared 

[jammen 337]

17 hours ago, Gantry said:

The "4 years recruiting 1 AA" thing to me is misleading. 

Eggum's interim title was removed on January 2017 - so he hasn't been the official head coach three years yet. 

 

Eggum was coaching the team the last few years of JRob's tenure, even if he didn't have the official title.

[Gantry 1,872]

The stat specifically doesn't give him credit for "Jrob's AAs" like McKee during that time, so you can't have it both ways.  If you want to extend his tenure saying he was really running things then he gets credit for all the AAs and that stat is invalid. 

Edited November 20, 2019 by Gantry

[bnwtwg 1,065]

10 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said:

This isn’t the NFL or SEC football ,no university will accept him until he’s cleared 

Ehhh you haven't been around college athletics very long have you? I'm not throwing a personal potshot when I say that you shouldn't be so naive. Besides, it was only a joke because there was a comment by GS saying "see you soon." He's not going anywhere he just repped the Gopher WC at Farrell.