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5 hours ago, Sheerstress said:

Politically, I myself tend toward the conservative, although he is so far to the right that I often find myself disagreeing with him on various issues.

Today's political left is so far left, crazily militant against anyone that does not fall in line that someone has to fill the role on the opposite side. That takes courage, and Jim Jordan has a lot of courage. 

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2 minutes ago, TBar1977 said:

Today's political left I'd so far left, crazily militant against anyone that does not fall in line that someone has to fill the role on the opposite side. That takes courage, and Jim Jordan has a lot of courage. 

Crazy militant left? Healthcare, logical gun control laws, being against getting cozy with dictators at the expense of years and years of foreign policy. The madness!

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17 minutes ago, russelscout said:

Crazy militant left? Healthcare, logical gun control laws, being against getting cozy with dictators at the expense of years and years of foreign policy. The madness!

Put down the koolaid and go watch some Spencer lee highlights or something 

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14 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Put down the koolaid and go watch some Spencer lee highlights or something 

Im a cult follower now? Because I believe healthcare that works for all and logical gun control when schools are getting shot up are policies worth considering or is it because I dont like dictators? These issues do not seem controversial. 

I guess since at times the president has said he wanted medicare for all and gun control, but never spoke out against authoritarian rule the dictator thing must be it.

So are you suggesting anti-authoritarian rule= equals cult status? That doesnt make a lot of sense.

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I wasn’t aware of him as a politician until he went full on Trumper. The first time I saw him was on Anderson Cooper and I honestly thought that a former wrestler would be a man of character and conviction. Instead he proceeded to tell AC that he has never heard Trump lie.

Mexico will pay for the wall

i didn’t know about the Stormy Daniels payment

Fake doctors letter

i never settle lawsuits

i graduated at the top of my class at Wharton

and on and on...

 

no respect for the guy

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"Crazy militant left? Healthcare, logical gun control laws, being against getting cozy with dictators at the expense of years and years of foreign policy. The madness!"

 

Hillary's DNC using a British Spy to produce Fusion GPS Charade which claimed false information involving Russian hookers, then using that propoganda to get warrants to spy on the other party, then  blaming the other party and holding a 2.5 year charade of a special investigation, then calling another charade investigation when it looks like the other side is starting to get to the bottom of things. Yeah, they are just special now, aren't they.

Let alone their stupid ideas like thinking they won't literally bankrupt the country by having both an open border and free everything for everyone. And for also crazily thinking that said open border won't be a haven for gun smugglers just as it is current a haven for drug smugglers and human traffickers. 

Go hang out with your friend Pelosi in her San Fran district or something. See how like the contaminated needles and feces your party has wrought on California. Get a clue. Their ideas do not work. 

 

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2 minutes ago, TBar1977 said:

"Crazy militant left? Healthcare, logical gun control laws, being against getting cozy with dictators at the expense of years and years of foreign policy. The madness!"

 

Hillary's DNC using a British Spy to produce Fusion GPS Charade which claimed false information involving Russian hookers, then using that propoganda to get warrants to spy on the other party, then  blaming the other party and holding a 2.5 year charade of a special investigation, then calling another charade investigation when it looks like the other side is starting to get to the bottom of things. Yeah, they are just special now, aren't they.

Let alone their stupid ideas like thinking they won't literally bankrupt the country by having both an o[pen border and free everything for everyone. And for also crazily thinking that said open border won't be a haven for gun smugglers just as it is current a haven for drug smugglers and human traffikers. 

Go hang out with your friend Pelosi in her San Fran district or something. See how like the contaminated needles and feces your party has wrought on California. Get a clue. Their ideas do not work. 

 

I made some coherent and factual points. You go directly to false Fox News talking points like "Democrats want open borders". I will give you credit for SF though, I don't even think Fox could come up with the idea that it's covered w/ needles and feces.

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8 minutes ago, TBar1977 said:

"Crazy militant left? Healthcare, logical gun control laws, being against getting cozy with dictators at the expense of years and years of foreign policy. The madness!"

 

Hillary's DNC using a British Spy to produce Fusion GPS Charade which claimed false information involving Russian hookers, then using that propoganda to get warrants to spy on the other party, then  blaming the other party and holding a 2.5 year charade of a special investigation, then calling another charade investigation when it looks like the other side is starting to get to the bottom of things. Yeah, they are just special now, aren't they.

Let alone their stupid ideas like thinking they won't literally bankrupt the country by having both an open border and free everything for everyone. And for also crazily thinking that said open border won't be a haven for gun smugglers just as it is current a haven for drug smugglers and human traffickers. 

Go hang out with your friend Pelosi in her San Fran district or something. See how like the contaminated needles and feces your party has wrought on California. Get a clue. Their ideas do not work. 

 

This is the fruit of Trump's efforts to maintain a base following .

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 IMHO

Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman, decorated Iraq war veteran,  is an American hero, and has the military record to back it up.  Ambassador William Taylor, decorated Viet Nam Veteran is an  American Hero.  Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch is an American Hero, for working in dangerous places for the good of the USA.  Jim Jordan is not.  

Shame on Jim Jordan and his ilk for disparaging these TRUE American heroes, as well as the others he trashes in order to show blind allegiance to DJT.

The only time I have seen Jim Jordan show any personal courage is when he shows up  in public without a jacket on, taking a  risk that  folks will see sweat stains under his armpits.

 

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1 hour ago, fiveontwo said:

paul wellstone was a terrible politician and wrestler

He earned a D1 college wrestling scholarship - that makes him better than 99% of people who take up wrestling. He became a US senator - that makes him better than 99% of people who take up politics.

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4 minutes ago, TBar1977 said:

Hillary's DNC using a British Spy to produce Fusion GPS Charade which claimed false information involving Russian hookers, then using that propoganda to get warrants to spy on the other party, then  blaming the other party and holding a 2.5 year charade of a special investigation, then calling another charade investigation when it looks like the other side is starting to get to the bottom of things. Yeah, they are just special now, aren't they.

Russia did involve themselves in our election though Tbar. Do you have a reliable source of what you are talking about? I know these AG was supposed to be investing these things, but still there has been nothing. Very similar to the whole "lock her up" stuff, the right and fox news provide a narrative, the base gets rallied behind it. Despite the fact that there is never anything that come from these narratives, the sheep maintain riled up about it. If a partisan like Barr cant find anything, its probably not legit.

13 minutes ago, TBar1977 said:

Let alone their stupid ideas like thinking they won't literally bankrupt the country by having both an o[pen border and free everything for everyone.

But trillion dollar deficits are not a concern for you.

16 minutes ago, TBar1977 said:

Go hang out with your friend Pelosi in her San Fran district or something. See how like the contaminated needles and feces your party has wrought on California. Get a clue. Their ideas do not work. 

How did Pelosi create this problem? Are you suggesting that the homeless issue is going to be solved by less social programs?  

 

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24 minutes ago, TBar1977 said:

"Crazy militant left? Healthcare, logical gun control laws, being against getting cozy with dictators at the expense of years and years of foreign policy. The madness!"

 

Hillary's DNC using a British Spy to produce Fusion GPS Charade which claimed false information involving Russian hookers, then using that propoganda to get warrants to spy on the other party, then  blaming the other party and holding a 2.5 year charade of a special investigation, then calling another charade investigation when it looks like the other side is starting to get to the bottom of things. Yeah, they are just special now, aren't they.

Let alone their stupid ideas like thinking they won't literally bankrupt the country by having both an open border and free everything for everyone. And for also crazily thinking that said open border won't be a haven for gun smugglers just as it is current a haven for drug smugglers and human traffickers. 

Go hang out with your friend Pelosi in her San Fran district or something. See how like the contaminated needles and feces your party has wrought on California. Get a clue. Their ideas do not work. 

 

You guys do know that T-Bar is a Russian plant, right?

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5 minutes ago, Fletcher said:

He earned a D1 college wrestling scholarship - that makes him better than 99% of people who take up wrestling. He became a US senator - that makes him better than 99% of people who take up politics.

im against the 1% tho.  feel the bern

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You guys do understand the hypocrisy of both sides of the isle don't you?  Three is a counter to every counter on each side of the isle.  Better off getting rid of both parties and vote for the best candidate based on what they will do for our country and our people.  To me it comes down to 2 trains of thought...either you believe in self reliance and  self accountability, or you believe in the government doing and providing everything for you.  I personally am more of a factual guy and definitely lean towards self reliance and accountability.  But I also believe in treating people equal, and judging them based on who they are as a person not based on the color of their skin, what religion they practice, or who they sleep with.  I also believe in secure boarders and freedom of speech and the right to own a firearm.  I also believe it is okay to have different opinions of others and still be friends.  Finally...I am skeptical of ALL media and can't for the life of me not understand how everyone isn't.

 

By the way...Jim Jordan is a good man...whether you like his political views

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5 minutes ago, dman said:

You guys do understand the hypocrisy of both sides of the isle don't you?  Three is a counter to every counter on each side of the isle.  Better off getting rid of both parties and vote for the best candidate based on what they will do for our country and our people.  To me it comes down to 2 trains of thought...either you believe in self reliance and  self accountability, or you believe in the government doing and providing everything for you.  I personally am more of a factual guy and definitely lean towards self reliance and accountability.  But I also believe in treating people equal, and judging them based on who they are as a person not based on the color of their skin, what religion they practice, or who they sleep with.  I also believe in secure boarders and freedom of speech and the right to own a firearm.  I also believe it is okay to have different opinions of others and still be friends.  Finally...I am skeptical of ALL media and can't for the life of me not understand how everyone isn't.

 

By the way...Jim Jordan is a good man...whether you like his political views

So there is no gray area between complete self reliance and total socialism? You believe that people should build their own roads, live w/o law enforcement or the military? How about common sense? That seems like it should be enough. 

 

Oh and common sense tells me that a guy who had to pay a $25 million fine because he started a fake university to steal people's money or was ordered to re-pay $2 million that he stole from a charity for his campaign might not be an honest guy who should be POTUS.

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4 minutes ago, dman said:

You guys do understand the hypocrisy of both sides of the isle don't you?  Three is a counter to every counter on each side of the isle.  Better off getting rid of both parties and vote for the best candidate based on what they will do for our country and our people.  To me it comes down to 2 trains of thought...either you believe in self reliance and  self accountability, or you believe in the government doing and providing everything for you. 

This is the problem. It is not an all or nothing proposition. Because I think the system would run better with universal health care doesnt mean I want the government taking care of everything. This is the kind of oversimplification that leads to the right blindly taking a moral high ground, while ignoring that the market doesnt solve every single problem, nor should it.

 

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29 minutes ago, dman said:

You guys do understand the hypocrisy of both sides of the isle don't you?  Three is a counter to every counter on each side of the isle.  Better off getting rid of both parties and vote for the best candidate based on what they will do for our country and our people.  To me it comes down to 2 trains of thought...either you believe in self reliance and  self accountability, or you believe in the government doing and providing everything for you.  I personally am more of a factual guy and definitely lean towards self reliance and accountability.  But I also believe in treating people equal, and judging them based on who they are as a person not based on the color of their skin, what religion they practice, or who they sleep with.  I also believe in secure boarders and freedom of speech and the right to own a firearm.  I also believe it is okay to have different opinions of others and still be friends.  Finally...I am skeptical of ALL media and can't for the life of me not understand how everyone isn't.

 

By the way...Jim Jordan is a good man...whether you like his political views

ding ding ding - Dman gets the award for the best post of the day!

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53 minutes ago, buckshot1969 said:

I made some coherent and factual points. You go directly to false Fox News talking points like "Democrats want open borders". I will give you credit for SF though, I don't even think Fox could come up with the idea that it's covered w/ needles and feces.

San Francisco is literally covered in needles and human crap I was there 2 weeks ago. It’s the most disgusting thing I’d ever seen in an American city , and Now they have a extremist prosecutor whose isnt gonna arrest anyone for taking a dump on a sidewalk or shooting dope in front of children ...I didn’t need Fox News, cnn or anyone else help me form my opinion , i went there and saw it with my own eyes, unfortunately Seattle isn’t to far behind, so before you mock people maybe you should a little personal insight 

 

 

idk how this post isn’t locked yet but I hope it does soon lol

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7 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

San Francisco is literally covered in needles and human crap I was there 2 weeks ago. It’s the most disgusting thing I’d ever seen in an American city , and Now they have a extremist prosecutor whose isnt gonna arrest anyone for taking a dump on a sidewalk or shooting dope in front of children ...I didn’t need Fox News, cnn or anyone else help me form my opinion , i went there and saw it with my own eyes, unfortunately Seattle isn’t to far behind, so before you mock people maybe you should a little personal insight 

 

 

idk how this post isn’t locked yet but I hope it does soon lol

How is it Pelosis fault? Do you believe less social policy can fix it?

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