bnwtwg 1,065 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 Massa just wrestled 74 a month ago. What the hell do they serve for thanksgiving at that house? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steamboat_charlie v2 1,157 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, treep2000 said: Darkhorses: 57kg - Vitali Arujau 65kg - Joey Mckenna 74kg - Carson Kharchla 86kg - Myles Martin 97kg - Kollin Moore 125kg - Kerkvliet Likely to win this tourney? No. Capable of pulling a thrilling upset? Absolutely. Why not throw Johnni D at 57kg and complete your buckeye / former buckeye sweep? 1 1 treep2000 and ConnorsDad reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 2,059 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 50 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: Massa just wrestled 74 a month ago. What the hell do they serve for thanksgiving at that house? Say he places Top 5... does that qualify him for 86 or does it simply qualify him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 2,059 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 51 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: Massa just wrestled 74 a month ago. What the hell do they serve for thanksgiving at that house? And he had competed twice at 79 the last couple months internationally. It has also been rumored that he would be 174 next season due to weight issues, with Amine at 184. This doesn't surprise me, because of that. I wish he hadn't made the cut to 74 last month, IF this was the plan. The other possibility is that he is nursing an injury. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 1,065 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 I'm an idiot so take my reply with a mountain of salt, but my understanding is that OTT= the weight qualified at through Sr. Nationals. The hypothetical question is what if he qualifies at 86kg @ sr. nats and then qualifies at 74kg @ last chance. I realize it is an extremely unrealistic scenario, but what else are message boards for? 1 leshismore reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 2,059 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: I'm an idiot so take my reply with a mountain of salt, but my understanding is that OTT= the weight qualified at through Sr. Nationals. The hypothetical question is what if he qualifies at 86kg @ sr. nats and then qualifies at 74kg @ last chance. I realize it is an extremely unrealistic scenario, but what else are message boards for? I really don't know, brada. I wish I did. It would be something if we saw energized Massa from three years ago. If it was the cut that got him. He isn't built like his brother. Taylor was broader and bigger up top. Going to 86 is a concern that he'll not be able to handle the torque these guys toss at him. That being said he has Amine and Abounader in the room with him. He may have just felt amazing and not wanted to cut. I have been saying it for two seasons. I believe his cut has been a drain and a major factor in his recovery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, bnwtwg said: I'm an idiot so take my reply with a mountain of salt, but my understanding is that OTT= the weight qualified at through Sr. Nationals. The hypothetical question is what if he qualifies at 86kg @ sr. nats and then qualifies at 74kg @ last chance. I realize it is an extremely unrealistic scenario, but what else are message boards for? I don’t think he would be allowed to participate in the last chance qualifier - i thought it was only open to those who haven’t qualified at any weight. A similarly weird scenario would apply to NCAA champs though, who qualify with a title and get to choose which weight they want to compete at for trials. Hypothetically, Spencer Lee could qualify for 57kg at Sr Nationals, win an NCAA title, and say he wants to compete at OTTs at 65kg. Not gonna ever happen, but I think the rules allow it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treep2000 1,140 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 7 hours ago, steamboat_charlie v2 said: Why not throw Johnni D at 57kg and complete your buckeye / former buckeye sweep? After I typed it I realized just that! Funny how that happened. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmm53 621 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 Pre-seeds just released: 57kg Pre-Seeds Spencer Lee (Titan Mercury WC) Nathan Tomasello (Titan Mercury WC) Zane Richards (Titan Mercury WC) Nahshon Garrett (Sunkist Kids) Darian Cruz (New York AC) Vitali Arujau (Titan Mercury WC) Josh Rodriguez (Nittany Lion WC) Zach Sanders (Gopher WC) Sean Russell (Gopher WC) Frank Perrelli (Titan Mercury WC) Cory Clark (Titan Mercury WC) Alan Waters (Titan Mercury WC) 65kg Pre-Seeds Yianni Diakomihalis (Titan Mercury WC) Jordan Oliver (Sunkist Kids) Frank Molinaro (Titan Mercury WC) Evan Henderson (Titan Mercury WC) Jaydin Eierman (Titan Mercury WC) Joey McKenna (Titan Mercury WC) Bryce Meredith (New York AC) Ben Whitford (Titan Mercury WC) Dom Demas (Titan Mercury WC) Dean Heil (Titan Mercury WC) Nick Lee (Nittany Lion WC) Jayson Ness (Gopher WC) Colton McCrystal (Sunkist Kids) Sean Fausz (Titan Mercury WC) 74kg Pre-Seeds Nazar Kulchytskyy (Titan Mercury WC) Mekhi Lewis (Titan Mercury WC) Tommy Gantt (Titan Mercury WC) Dan Vallimont (New York AC) Chance Marsteller (Titan Mercury WC) Alec Pantaleo (Titan Mercury WC) Muhamed McBryde (Buffalo WC) Tyler Berger (Sunkist Kids) Anthony Valencia (Sunkist Kids) Evan Wick (Titan Mercury WC) Dylan Ness (Gopher WC) 86kg Pre-Seeds Alex Dieringer (Titan Mercury WC) Zahid Valencia (Sunkist Kids) Sammy Brooks (New York AC) Nick Heflin (Titan Mercury WC) Myles Martin (Titan Mercury WC) Aaron Brooks (Nittany Lion) Nate Jackson (New York AC) Brett Pfarr (Gopher WC) 97kg Pre-Seeds Kyven Gadson (Sunkist Kids) Hayden Zillmer (Gopher WC) Ty Walz (Titan Mercury WC) Kollin Moore (Titan Mercury WC) Derek White (Titan Mercury WC) Kevin Beazley (New York AC) Timmy McCall (Titan Mercury WC) Scottie Boykin (Titan Mercury WC) 125kg Pre-Seeds Tony Nelson (Minnesota Storm) Dom Bradley (Sunkist Kids) Anthony Cassar (Nittany Lion WC) Daniel Kerkvliet (Titan Mercury WC) Nick Nevills (Nittany Lion WC) Mike Kosoy (Sunkist Kids) Youssif Hemida (New York AC) Tanner Hall (Sunkist Kids) Zach Elam (Team Central WC) 1 AZ_wrestling reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 1,141 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 Damn this is going to be a great tournament. Where are ... Daton Fix Gable Steveson I know they are qualified already but one can still hope. Also the world deserves to see Fix-Lee redux. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nom 1,193 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 Lee #1? Who did these? Seems way high given lack of recent action on freestyle circuit. Also, no Suriano? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fanta 49 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 Deakin entering at 74kg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
de4856 371 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 Well after looking at all the seeds, all I can say is this is going to be a great tournament Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 326 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 9 hours ago, nom said: Lee #1? Who did these? Seems way high given lack of recent action on freestyle circuit. Also, no Suriano? Who would you expect to be over him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crash 217 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 57 kgs Shane Kim 57 kgs Sean Kim 57 kgs Jose Moreno 57 kgs Vitali Arujau 57 kgs Cory Clark 57 kgs Nahshon Garrett 57 kgs Edward Klimara 57 kgs Shelton Mack 57 kgs Frank Perrelli 57 kgs Zane Richards 57 kgs Nathan Tomasello 57 kgs Austin Miller 57 kgs Alan Waters 57 kgs Britain Longmire 57 kgs Kevin Radcliff 57 kgs Zach Sanders 57 kgs Sean Russell 57 kgs Daniel DeShazer 57 kgs Spencer Lee 57 kgs Johnni DiJulius 57 kgs Darian Cruz 57 kgs Desmond Moore 57 kgs Jacob Moran 57 kgs Joshua Rodriguez 57 kgs Gabriel Townsell 57 kgs Gabriel Gray 65 kgs Robert Rehm 65 kgs Nicholas Dardanes 65 kgs Domonick Demas 65 kgs Yianni Diakomihalis 65 kgs Jaydin Eierman 65 kgs Sean Fausz 65 kgs Earl Hall 65 kgs Dean Heil 65 kgs Joseph McKenna 65 kgs Frank Molinaro 65 kgs Alec Pantaleo 65 kgs Joshua Saunders 65 kgs Ben Whitford 65 kgs Evan Henderson 65 kgs Colton McCrystal 65 kgs Rob Mathers 65 kgs Jordan Oliver 65 kgs Joey Lazor 65 kgs John Burger 65 kgs Jayson Ness 65 kgs Aldon Isenberg 65 kgs Mario Mason 65 kgs Bryce Meredith 65 kgs Matthew Kolodzik 65 kgs Ethan Lizak 65 kgs Nate Hansen 65 kgs Tristan Snover 65 kgs Nick Lee 65 kgs Darren Wynn 65 kgs Ali Yousefi 74 kgs Edward Holly 74 kgs Branson Ashworth 74 kgs Nick Becker 74 kgs Thomas Gantt 74 kgs Quinton Godley 74 kgs Nazar Kulchytskyy 74 kgs Joey Lavallee 74 kgs Mekhi Lewis 74 kgs Chance Marsteller 74 kgs Evan Wick 74 kgs Deondre Wilson 74 kgs Trever Devestern 74 kgs Andrew Simmons 74 kgs Carson Kharchla 74 kgs Tyler Berger 74 kgs Dylan Ness 74 kgs Elroy Perkin 74 kgs Jake Keating 74 kgs John Van Schenk Brill 74 kgs Jaison White 74 kgs Dan Vallimont 74 kgs Muhamed Mcbryde 74 kgs Anthony Valencia 74 kgs Josh Shields 74 kgs Jake Sueflohn 74 kgs Will Connell 74 kgs Daniel Richardson 74 kgs Daniel Snediker 74 kgs Tony Raupp 74 kgs Chad Walsh 86 kgs Joshua Asper 86 kgs Beau Yineman 86 kgs Skyler Gonzalez 86 kgs Anthony Bontempo 86 kgs Leonardo Tarantino 86 kgs Stacey Davis 86 kgs Maxwell Dean 86 kgs Nicholas Heflin 86 kgs Myles Martin 86 kgs Peter Renda 86 kgs Alex Dieringer 86 kgs Kevin Radford 86 kgs Timothy Dudley 86 kgs Drew Foster 86 kgs Parker Keckeisen 86 kgs Brett Pfarr 86 kgs Ryan Loder 86 kgs Samuel Brooks 86 kgs Willie Miklus 86 kgs Nathan Jackson 86 kgs CJ Brucki 86 kgs Kadeem Samuels 86 kgs Logan Massa 86 kgs Zahid Valencia 86 kgs Dwight Howes 86 kgs Brennan Giffin 86 kgs Matthew Dean 86 kgs Syed Ul-Hasan 86 kgs Aaron Brooks 86 kgs Ramon Fry 86 kgs Matthew Alejandro 97 kgs Joshua Manu 97 kgs Erik Hinckley 97 kgs Donald Scott 97 kgs Scottie Boykin 97 kgs Jacob Kasper 97 kgs Timmy McCall 97 kgs Ty Walz 97 kgs Derek White 97 kgs Kyven Gadson 97 kgs Hayden Zillmer 97 kgs Kollin Moore 97 kgs Evan Hansen 97 kgs Kevin Beazley 97 kgs Donald McNeil 97 kgs Jonovan Smith 125 kgs Daniel Kerkvliet 125 kgs Ceron Francisco 125 kgs AJ Nevills 125 kgs Shawn Streck 125 kgs Dominique Bradley 125 kgs Garrett Ryan 125 kgs Michael Kosoy 125 kgs Anthony Nelson 125 kgs Mauro Correnti 125 kgs Youssif Hemida 125 kgs Tanner Hall 125 kgs Jacob Evans 125 kgs Zach Elam 125 kgs Anthony Cassar 125 kgs Nick Nevills 125 kgs Jeremy Benton 125 kgs Josh Childs 125 kgs Austin Flanagan Final online registration. Can still be walk-ups. Edited December 18, 2019 by Crash Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,732 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Crash said: On-line registration is closed. Here is the final list. Remember, there can still be walk-ups. 57 kgs Shane Kim 57 kgs Sean Kim 57 kgs Audrie Lee 57 kgs Jose Moreno 57 kgs Xochitl Mota-Pettis 57 kgs Vitali Arujau 57 kgs Cory Clark 57 kgs Nahshon Garrett 57 kgs Edward Klimara 57 kgs Shelton Mack 57 kgs Frank Perrelli 57 kgs Zane Richards 57 kgs Nathan Tomasello 57 kgs Shauna Kemp 57 kgs Alexandra Hedrick 57 kgs Cameron Guerin 57 kgs Brittany Wynn 57 kgs Austin Miller 57 kgs Alan Waters 57 kgs Arian Carpio 57 kgs Kelsey Campbell 57 kgs Britain Longmire 57 kgs Kevin Radcliff 57 kgs Zach Sanders 57 kgs Sean Russell 57 kgs Daniel DeShazer 57 kgs Rebecca Drown 57 kgs Spencer Lee 57 kgs Johnni DiJulius 57 kgs Isabella Gonzalez 57 kgs Lauren Louive 57 kgs Darian Cruz 57 kgs Desmond Moore 57 kgs Jessica Fresh 57 kgs Gabrielle Weyhrich 57 kgs Annmarie Hidalgo 57 kgs Marissa Gallegos 57 kgs Tiana Jackson 57 kgs Hailey Schiermeyer 57 kgs Jacob Moran 57 kgs Cindy Zepeda 57 kgs Sierra Brown Ton 57 kgs Allison Petix 57 kgs Phoenix Dubose 57 kgs Cheyenne Sisenstein 57 kgs Alexia Ward 57 kgs Joshua Rodriguez 57 kgs Monica Mendoza 57 kgs Gabriel Townsell 57 kgs Emily Se 57 kgs Alexandra Herle 57 kgs Niya Teresita Gaines 57 kgs Gabriel Gray 57 kgs Vayle Baker 57 kgs Gabrielle Skidmore 57 kgs Koral Sugiyama I was shocked at how long the 57kg list was, then I noticed half the list has the women as well. Edited December 18, 2019 by Mphillips Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 2,059 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 Pantaleo is at 74kg not 65kg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nhs67 2,059 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 10 hours ago, fanta said: Deakin entering at 74kg 3 or 4 seed then right? If Cenzo enters it puts him at the 2 with deakin the 4 or 5 then. A great draw for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bnwtwg 1,065 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 12 hours ago, BigTimeFan said: Damn this is going to be a great tournament. Where are ... Daton Fix Gable Steveson I know they are qualified already but one can still hope. Also the world deserves to see Fix-Lee redux. Why risk injury for a meaningless tournament? They are both qualified already for Olympic Trials and neither is scared of anyone that they could bump out of OTT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crash 217 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Mphillips said: I was shocked at how long the 57kg list was, then I noticed half the list has the women as well. Ha. Sry. Edited. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,732 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Crash said: Ha. Sry. Edited. No worries. When I looked at the list I was like, "DAMN!" (~);-} 1 Crash reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 1,073 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 15 hours ago, BigTimeFan said: Damn this is going to be a great tournament. Where are ... Daton Fix Gable Steveson I know they are qualified already but one can still hope. Also the world deserves to see Fix-Lee redux. Where are any of the Penn State guys? I guess Bo Nickal is already qualified, but why not wrestle? Also, no Mark Hall and no Cenzo, at least not yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steamboat_charlie v2 1,157 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, NJDan said: Where are any of the Penn State guys? I guess Bo Nickal is already qualified, but why not wrestle? Also, no Mark Hall and no Cenzo, at least not yet. Cassar, Brooks, Lee are all registered in addition to NWLC guys (Rodriguez, Nevills, sort of Kerkvliet). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZ_wrestling 119 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie v2 said: Cassar, Brooks, Lee are all registered in addition to NWLC guys (Rodriguez, Nevills, sort of Kerkvliet). I’m guessing no Nolf means he’s injured still... sucks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDan 1,073 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 37 minutes ago, steamboat_charlie v2 said: Cassar, Brooks, Lee are all registered in addition to NWLC guys (Rodriguez, Nevills, sort of Kerkvliet). Are they late entrants? I did not see them in the pre-seeds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites