Valid or invalid cradle back points?

[NoviceWrestlingDad 0]

Greetings,

Can those with in-depth knowledge in folkstyle wrestling let us know if back points should be given in this situation?

https://youtu.be/SXEP0x_l428

 

[gimpeltf 1,521]

3 hours ago, NoviceWrestlingDad said:

Greetings,

Can those with in-depth knowledge in folkstyle wrestling let us know if back points should be given in this situation?

https://youtu.be/SXEP0x_l428

 

Camera work was pretty bad so hard to focus. When the ref started finally to count it appears that the shoulders might both be within 4 inches. I would say before that probably not as neither shoulder was on the mat for any length of time especially with the other shoulder less than 45 nor were the shoulders both within 4 inches and the top guy's body was often below the shoulders.

[BadgerMon 178]

I ref (16 years).  Sure...remember the bottom of the scapula counts as part of the "shoulder", and he was pretty much propping up with the elbow on the other side.  I'd have made it stick, why not?  If its two consecutive strokes, call it 2.

[fullnelson 114]

He might have even been pinned; look in the rule book at the illustration of the back exposure area. Definitely backs points here.

[Mphillips 707]

Pin or no pin...

 

[1032004 869]

Hard to tell from that angle.  But certainly looks like the ref gave 5 consecutive swipes, so I think the bigger question is why he waved off the points (according to the description in the video).

[USMC5702 5]

Mphillips, I thought was a TD and pin when it happened, still do.