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What college produces the STRONGEST wrestlers?

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21 minutes ago, Rich-JerseyStrong said:

Size has nothing to do with steroids.  Steroids help you to recover, whether your goal is muscular endurance, strength or size.

And just because you are big and ripped, doesnt mean you are strong.

Majority of college athletes have or are taken steroids. 

Cool story but I’ve wrestled him. He is big AND strong AND juiced.

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If you watch MMA, Fedor is a perfect example.  Not only in his prime was he about 220-230, but he wasnt nearly as defined as most of his opponents, yet he was definitely much more powerful then them. 

 

Or a comparison of strongmen competitors and bodybuilders.  Bodybuilders are much more defined, but strongmen competitors are much stronger and more powerful.  

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2 hours ago, Rich-JerseyStrong said:

Majority of college athletes have or are taken steroids. 

This is a massive assertion. I don’t buy it. I’m not naive; I know steroid use is rampant. But the majority? Come on, now. I don’t even think the majority of wrestling All-Americans are on steroids. 

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2 minutes ago, wrestlingnerd said:

This is a massive assertion. I don’t buy it. I’m not naive; I know steroid use is rampant. But the majority? Come on, now. I don’t even think the majority of wrestling All-Americans are on steroids. 

Rich is, 'JerseyStrong...'

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How about Illinois when Mark Johnson was there.  Mark was not only a great wrestler, but also a serious bobybuilder.  His teams were strong and very solid, much like Minnesota's were.  Prior to that, he was at Oregon State, and one of his recruits, Les Gutches, is a serious bobybuilder today..

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4 hours ago, Rich-JerseyStrong said:

Or a comparison of strongmen competitors and bodybuilders.  Bodybuilders are much more defined, but strongmen competitors are much stronger and more powerful.  

I was going to make this exact same comparison.  Like many things in life, strength cannot be determined by the eyeball test.  show muscles<functional strength 

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6 hours ago, Rich-JerseyStrong said:

Size has nothing to do with steroids.  Steroids help you to recover, whether your goal is muscular endurance, strength or size.

And just because you are big and ripped, doesnt mean you are strong.

Majority of college athletes have or are taken steroids. 

Size has everything to do with steroids. Steroids help you recover, as you stated, and roid freaks can lift longer and harder than natural athletes. 

Regarding looking ripped, yeah, those guys aren't always as strong as they look. The strongest weightlifters are powerlifters, and lots of those guys look like flabby fatasses. Alexeev, for example. 

Source on your allegation about the majority of college athletes having taken roids? 

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On 12/10/2019 at 12:00 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

I'm talking sheer size and power and strength.

My nomination is Ohio State.  Thinking of guys like NATO, Stieber, Micah and Bo Jordan, Myles Martin, Snyder.

I bet you are really talking smell - but are afraid to say it lest we think you a sniffing fool.

 

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18 hours ago, TobusRex said:

Size has everything to do with steroids. Steroids help you recover, as you stated, and roid freaks can lift longer and harder than natural athletes. 

Regarding looking ripped, yeah, those guys aren't always as strong as they look. The strongest weightlifters are powerlifters, and lots of those guys look like flabby fatasses. Alexeev, for example. 

Source on your allegation about the majority of college athletes having taken roids? 

Vasily Alexeyev, if that's who you mean,  was a weightlifter, not a powerlifter. Pretty sure that powerlifters do bench press and such, none of which is in the Olympics.

Also, Alexeyev was a fatass b/c he was a heavyweight, just like heavyweight wrestlers can be fat, all the more so when the class was unlimited. Non-heavyweight Olympic weightlifters are generally pretty ripped.  

 

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On 12/10/2019 at 5:09 PM, HokieHWT said:

He was also juiced to the gills

 

On 12/11/2019 at 12:38 PM, wrestlingnerd said:

This is a massive assertion. I don’t buy it. I’m not naive; I know steroid use is rampant. But the majority? Come on, now. I don’t even think the majority of wrestling All-Americans are on steroids. 

Well being that TRT is legal, why wouldn't athletes.

 

Mind you, I am not saying this as an attack towards any who do.  I think it should be legalized and monitored. 

 

But I would say 95% of all D-1 wrestlers are.  And probably every AA.  

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On 12/11/2019 at 5:10 PM, TobusRex said:

Size has everything to do with steroids. Steroids help you recover, as you stated, and roid freaks can lift longer and harder than natural athletes. 

Regarding looking ripped, yeah, those guys aren't always as strong as they look. The strongest weightlifters are powerlifters, and lots of those guys look like flabby fatasses. Alexeev, for example. 

Source on your allegation about the majority of college athletes having taken roids? 

Source, other college wrestlers, teammates, friends. 

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On 12/11/2019 at 5:10 PM, TobusRex said:

Size has everything to do with steroids. Steroids help you recover, as you stated, and roid freaks can lift longer and harder than natural athletes. 

Regarding looking ripped, yeah, those guys aren't always as strong as they look. The strongest weightlifters are powerlifters, and lots of those guys look like flabby fatasses. Alexeev, for example. 

Source on your allegation about the majority of college athletes having taken roids? 

What I mean about size having nothing to do wirh steroids, is that if you dont lift and eat to get big, steroids wont magically make you big.  If you are a 141lber and start juicing, you are not going to be a 184lber in 3 months.  Yes, you tend to eat more, retain more water and have a bigger appetite, which usually makes u gain weight, but if you are on a clean diet, you wont gain much. 

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