hammerlockthree 2,086 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 I didn't see anything at the time but this was a great match. 1 1 pamela and Mphillips reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantry 1,716 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 Yeah that was fun, thanks for sharing. 1 hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madcat11 420 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 Wow awesome match 1 hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uncle bernard 625 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 Glory is really underrated on his feet. I really want to see him against Mueller. I think if anyone is going to take out Lee this year, it's him. 1 TBar1977 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBluegill133 277 Report post Posted December 17, 2019 a lot of pressure on his feet, Picc didn't have a chance to set anything up at neutral. If Glory doesn't get sloppy on top a couple times, this wouldn't have been as "close" as it was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 Id like to see a bit more excitement out of the Princeton staff. 1 Gantry reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 Pretty impressive how he really went after it from top, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SikeD 14 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 Great match! Glory really commits to all of his attacks. No half-measures. Similar to the male cheerleader "saving" the female cheerleader from being squashed by the two wrestlers. Didn't stop protecting her until she was clearly out of danger. 2 Bananasplit and powershouse reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,021 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 That first "takedown" seemed awfully generous on the part of the referee. Glory clearly hadn't established any sort of control whatsoever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,643 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, TobusRex said: That first "takedown" seemed awfully generous on the part of the referee. Glory clearly hadn't established any sort of control whatsoever. That's the Danger Rule in action. 3 seconds beyond 90. 2 CoachWrestling and TobusRex reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,021 Report post Posted December 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, gimpeltf said: That's the Danger Rule in action. 3 seconds beyond 90. Oh. The "Heil" rule. Still not used to it, obviously. 1 gimpeltf reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingzen 59 Report post Posted December 19, 2019 Quick question/thought on that first takedown and the 3-second rule: Glory was awarded the takedown, more or less in the middle of a scramble, and after a bunch of time on Picc's ankles, rolling around, etc., the ref calls stalemate. I wondered why that wouldn't be called stalling. I'm probably missing something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XiXiTiger 38 Report post Posted December 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, wrestlingzen said: Quick question/thought on that first takedown and the 3-second rule: Glory was awarded the takedown, more or less in the middle of a scramble, and after a bunch of time on Picc's ankles, rolling around, etc., the ref calls stalemate. I wondered why that wouldn't be called stalling. I'm probably missing something. I wondered that too. Also, seemed like a short count to give the takedown. Picc may have been been in "danger" for 3 seconds, but looking strictly at the refs count it appeared that Picc started turning belly down as soon as heard the count (before 3 full swipes). Kind of similar to the Eierman/Yanni match at NCAAs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,643 Report post Posted December 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, XiXiTiger said: I wondered that too. Also, seemed like a short count to give the takedown. Picc may have been been in "danger" for 3 seconds, but looking strictly at the refs count it appeared that Picc started turning belly down as soon as heard the count (before 3 full swipes). Kind of similar to the Eierman/Yanni match at NCAAs. I noticed that, too. Also it seemed the count started up as soon as he went to 'danger'. My understanding is that the refs should hold off a second or two and say danger (I think that's the protocol) before counting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WillieBoy 713 Report post Posted December 19, 2019 Watching Glory go low it might be worth him checking out older video of John Smith competing. He apparently has the drive and looks comfortable with the moves but needs to get his low work much more fluid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,021 Report post Posted December 20, 2019 4 hours ago, gimpeltf said: I noticed that, too. Also it seemed the count started up as soon as he went to 'danger'. My understanding is that the refs should hold off a second or two and say danger (I think that's the protocol) before counting. Well, got to give Glory credit for understanding the rules better than Picc, if nothing else :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 2,779 Report post Posted December 20, 2019 6 hours ago, WillieBoy said: Watching Glory go low it might be worth him checking out older video of John Smith competing. He apparently has the drive and looks comfortable with the moves but needs to get his low work much more fluid. One step at a time. Glory used to not have much self-initiated offense, at least against high-level guys. Dubuque has done an impressive job in developing that. He is not done, and his pupil appears game to continue the improvement. I am very impressed by Glory’s progress and what Princeton has done with him so far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,086 Report post Posted December 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, wrestlingnerd said: One step at a time. Glory used to not have much self-initiated offense, at least against high-level guys. Dubuque has done an impressive job in developing that. He is not done, and his pupil appears game to continue the improvement. I am very impressed by Glory’s progress and what Princeton has done with him so far. Plus I am sure Glory and the princeton staff don't know those positions at all... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,484 Report post Posted December 20, 2019 2 hours ago, TobusRex said: Well, got to give Glory credit for understanding the rules better than Picc, if nothing else :D Anyone can understand the rules but can they understand how that specific ref will interpret the rules on that specific day, now that'd be some fine understanding. ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,086 Report post Posted December 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, ionel said: Anyone can understand the rules but can they understand how that specific ref will interpret the rules on that specific day, now that'd be some fine understanding. ;) The reason you are wrong is because you seem to think that there isn't an arbitrary element to life, sports, being a referee..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,484 Report post Posted December 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said: The reason you are wrong is because you seem to think that there isn't an arbitrary element to life, sports, being a referee..... huh ... I don't think you understood what I was saying ... but yeah that's life ;_; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,086 Report post Posted December 20, 2019 Or you just don't understand... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,021 Report post Posted December 20, 2019 44 minutes ago, ionel said: Anyone can understand the rules but can they understand how that specific ref will interpret the rules on that specific day, now that'd be some fine understanding. ;) That'd be easy: just watch the ref in action for a few matches and you should know exactly how he'll call stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 1,484 Report post Posted December 20, 2019 9 hours ago, TobusRex said: That'd be easy: just watch the ref in action for a few matches and you should know exactly how he'll call stuff. Well sure but Picc upstairs warming up, Glory maybe doing same & your not gonna learn much understanding of danger rule & scramble calls watching the prior match of heavies. ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madcat11 420 Report post Posted December 21, 2019 All the glory to glory Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites