Who's better at developing wrestlers?

[stp 564]

Who's better at developing wrestlers?

Iowa

or 

Ohio State

[Mphillips 1,660]

It's OSU right now.

[russelscout 1,573]

It's Iowa right now.

[Perry 1,423]

Both solid programs that do a lot for their guys and are pretty comparable to one another imo

[Pinnum 836]

Both programs get wrestlers who are already developed.  They polish the developed wrestlers.

[Molsen 142]

Iowa turned a guy, who was only a state runner up his senior year, into a 2 time ncaa champion, with 2 more years to go. How can you even compare the two. 

[goheels1812 676]

I know this isn’t Iowa or Ohio State, but Pat Popolizio does a phenomenal job developing wrestlers. And I’m far from an N.C. State fan. The best example is Michael Macchiavello. He went from being a 1 time high school state champion in North Carolina, to a losing season his true freshman year, to a ~.500 record his true sophomore year, to being a national champion his senior year. 

[WF89 109]

I’d give Iowa (Brands) the edge over Ohio State (Ryan)

 

Ohio State seems to start with better recruits so less development is required though.

[TBar1977 4,483]

The past several years Ohio St has objectively better results, but Iowa's results should be better the next two years for sure.

[Boompa 202]

7 hours ago, WF89 said:

I’d give Iowa (Brands) the edge over Ohio State (Ryan)

 

Ohio State seems to start with better recruits so less development is required though.

I agree with this.  Until now, tOSU has had better recruits compared to Iowa the last 5 years.

I would say overall, Iowa is better.

TOSU has had some great freshman campaigns that were limping across the line as seniors.

[hammerlockthree 2,581]

OMG its not even close. Iowa by a mile.

tOSU outrecruits them badly, and then their studs get beat because they have really fixable holes in their style. Tom Ryan had two freshmen NCAA champs not repeat in 6 tries.

[Mokoma 324]

1 hour ago, hammerlockthree said:

OMG its not even close. Iowa by a mile.

tOSU outrecruits them badly, and then their studs get beat because they have really fixable holes in their style. Tom Ryan had two freshmen NCAA champs not repeat in 6 tries.

And those 2 only had 1 other finals appearance afterwards...

[hammerlockthree 2,581]

1 minute ago, Mokoma said:

And those 2 only had 1 other finals appearance afterwards...

yeah. Its an odd criticism but when discussing elite things you have to make weird criticisms. 

 

[VakAttack 3,987]

Pretty much what's stated in the thread. Iowa is better at developing, but Ryan and Co. are better at a.more.important skill. The Brands' skill in development is not as valuable in.a world where.many wrestlers are coming to college more developed.

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[Mohammer 65]

Better question.......who is better at recruiting and getting top 10 wrestlers outta high school and/or acquiring transfers who smaller college programs recruited and developed?

[1032004 1,414]

9 hours ago, Mohammer said:

Better question.......who is better at recruiting and getting top 10 wrestlers outta high school and/or acquiring transfers who smaller college programs recruited and developed?

Cael 

[TobusRex 2,107]

On 12/24/2019 at 5:07 PM, stp said:

Who's better at developing wrestlers?

Iowa

or 

Ohio State

Neither. Obviously "God" deserves all the credit, I can tell from the interviews afterward.....

[TobusRex 2,107]

Btw, Iowa does a better job at developing talent than OSU. EITHER OSU.

[silver 17]

How many walk ons have they made all Americans????

[Creek chub 218]

Not Iowa or Ohio state answer but ditto on the nc state answer. Pop does an amazing job for the pack and that’s great for the acc even though it chaps me when they beat VT. VT has also done a great job of wrestler development such as all Americans who weren’t high school studs like penny, haught, Yates and ty walz

[BigTimeFan 1,141]

17 hours ago, TobusRex said:

Neither. Obviously "God" deserves all the credit, I can tell from the interviews afterward.....

Yes. That’s for sure. God spends a lot of time working out who he wants to win and lose. The government shouldn’t pick winners and losers. But ... 

Ok I got that out of my system. 

[Mphillips 1,660]

18 hours ago, TobusRex said:

Btw, Iowa does a better job at developing talent than OSU. EITHER OSU.

There is only one OSU in wrestling.  There is OU and OKST.  <smiley here> 

[TheOhioState 525]

37 minutes ago, Mphillips said:

There is only one OSU in wrestling.  There is OU and OKST.  <smiley here> 

There is also one THE Ohio State.

And one Tom Ryan.

I think very highly of Cael Sanderson, Tom Brands and John Smith- they're all Hall of Famers, but I wouldn't trade our coach for any of them.

He knows how to build a program; how to sustain it, and how to rebound if things don't go his way.   (Welcome, J'den Cox.)

I love his faith- a very unpopular topic in today's agnostic society.  

He's endured tragedy, and his faith has sustained him and his family.

Ask any of his wrestlers what they think of him.  

Ask me...a physically broken down older guy who Tom offered to help without even knowing me.







 

[russelscout 1,573]

3 minutes ago, TheOhioState said:

Ask any of his wrestlers what they think of him. 

Thats just stockholm syndrome.

[Mphillips 1,660]

59 minutes ago, TheOhioState said:

There is also one THE Ohio State.

No,  'tOSU' for me.  

I am a Tom Ryan fan.