stp 564 Report post Posted December 24, 2019 Who's better at developing wrestlers? Iowa or Ohio State Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,660 Report post Posted December 24, 2019 It's OSU right now. 2 russelscout and PSUMike reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted December 24, 2019 It's Iowa right now. 2 Dondante88 and Mphillips reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,423 Report post Posted December 24, 2019 Both solid programs that do a lot for their guys and are pretty comparable to one another imo 1 herma48852 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinnum 836 Report post Posted December 24, 2019 Both programs get wrestlers who are already developed. They polish the developed wrestlers. 3 herma48852, krippler and silver reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Molsen 142 Report post Posted December 24, 2019 Iowa turned a guy, who was only a state runner up his senior year, into a 2 time ncaa champion, with 2 more years to go. How can you even compare the two. 6 1 10 HurricaneWrestling2, Bigboi Trained, jon and 14 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goheels1812 676 Report post Posted December 24, 2019 I know this isn’t Iowa or Ohio State, but Pat Popolizio does a phenomenal job developing wrestlers. And I’m far from an N.C. State fan. The best example is Michael Macchiavello. He went from being a 1 time high school state champion in North Carolina, to a losing season his true freshman year, to a ~.500 record his true sophomore year, to being a national champion his senior year. 5 wamba, Creek chub, krippler and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WF89 109 Report post Posted December 24, 2019 I’d give Iowa (Brands) the edge over Ohio State (Ryan) Ohio State seems to start with better recruits so less development is required though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,483 Report post Posted December 24, 2019 The past several years Ohio St has objectively better results, but Iowa's results should be better the next two years for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boompa 202 Report post Posted December 25, 2019 7 hours ago, WF89 said: I’d give Iowa (Brands) the edge over Ohio State (Ryan) Ohio State seems to start with better recruits so less development is required though. I agree with this. Until now, tOSU has had better recruits compared to Iowa the last 5 years. I would say overall, Iowa is better. TOSU has had some great freshman campaigns that were limping across the line as seniors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted December 25, 2019 OMG its not even close. Iowa by a mile. tOSU outrecruits them badly, and then their studs get beat because they have really fixable holes in their style. Tom Ryan had two freshmen NCAA champs not repeat in 6 tries. 1 krippler reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokoma 324 Report post Posted December 25, 2019 1 hour ago, hammerlockthree said: OMG its not even close. Iowa by a mile. tOSU outrecruits them badly, and then their studs get beat because they have really fixable holes in their style. Tom Ryan had two freshmen NCAA champs not repeat in 6 tries. And those 2 only had 1 other finals appearance afterwards... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,581 Report post Posted December 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Mokoma said: And those 2 only had 1 other finals appearance afterwards... yeah. Its an odd criticism but when discussing elite things you have to make weird criticisms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,987 Report post Posted December 26, 2019 Pretty much what's stated in the thread. Iowa is better at developing, but Ryan and Co. are better at a.more.important skill. The Brands' skill in development is not as valuable in.a world where.many wrestlers are coming to college more developed.Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk 3 wamba, BigTimeFan and cjc007 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mohammer 65 Report post Posted December 26, 2019 Better question.......who is better at recruiting and getting top 10 wrestlers outta high school and/or acquiring transfers who smaller college programs recruited and developed? 1 silver reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1032004 1,414 Report post Posted December 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Mohammer said: Better question.......who is better at recruiting and getting top 10 wrestlers outta high school and/or acquiring transfers who smaller college programs recruited and developed? Cael 1 Mohammer reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,107 Report post Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/24/2019 at 5:07 PM, stp said: Who's better at developing wrestlers? Iowa or Ohio State Neither. Obviously "God" deserves all the credit, I can tell from the interviews afterward..... 1 silvermedal reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TobusRex 2,107 Report post Posted December 27, 2019 Btw, Iowa does a better job at developing talent than OSU. EITHER OSU. 1 stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver 17 Report post Posted December 27, 2019 How many walk ons have they made all Americans???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creek chub 218 Report post Posted December 27, 2019 Not Iowa or Ohio state answer but ditto on the nc state answer. Pop does an amazing job for the pack and that’s great for the acc even though it chaps me when they beat VT. VT has also done a great job of wrestler development such as all Americans who weren’t high school studs like penny, haught, Yates and ty walz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 1,141 Report post Posted December 28, 2019 17 hours ago, TobusRex said: Neither. Obviously "God" deserves all the credit, I can tell from the interviews afterward..... Yes. That’s for sure. God spends a lot of time working out who he wants to win and lose. The government shouldn’t pick winners and losers. But ... Ok I got that out of my system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,660 Report post Posted December 28, 2019 18 hours ago, TobusRex said: Btw, Iowa does a better job at developing talent than OSU. EITHER OSU. There is only one OSU in wrestling. There is OU and OKST. <smiley here> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOhioState 525 Report post Posted December 28, 2019 37 minutes ago, Mphillips said: There is only one OSU in wrestling. There is OU and OKST. <smiley here> There is also one THE Ohio State. And one Tom Ryan. I think very highly of Cael Sanderson, Tom Brands and John Smith- they're all Hall of Famers, but I wouldn't trade our coach for any of them. He knows how to build a program; how to sustain it, and how to rebound if things don't go his way. (Welcome, J'den Cox.) I love his faith- a very unpopular topic in today's agnostic society. He's endured tragedy, and his faith has sustained him and his family. Ask any of his wrestlers what they think of him. Ask me...a physically broken down older guy who Tom offered to help without even knowing me. 2 HurricaneWrestling2 and Mphillips reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russelscout 1,573 Report post Posted December 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheOhioState said: Ask any of his wrestlers what they think of him. Thats just stockholm syndrome. 2 1 TobusRex, jammen and HurricaneWrestling2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mphillips 1,660 Report post Posted December 28, 2019 59 minutes ago, TheOhioState said: There is also one THE Ohio State. No, 'tOSU' for me. I am a Tom Ryan fan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites