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During a match in youth USA wrestling is it allowed for an opponent to pick the other opponents head up and repeatedly bang it face first in the mat?   Is this cause for that opponent to be disqualified from the match?

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On 1/5/2020 at 1:31 PM, Dpatton said:

During a match in youth USA wrestling is it allowed for an opponent to pick the other opponents head up and repeatedly bang it face first in the mat?   Is this cause for that opponent to be disqualified from the match?

In a front headlock situation its pretty common and not illegal, its basically a snap.  If situation where athlete was in top position and just picked head up and slammed face down, yeah could see an unnecessary roughness call, but no not a disqualification.  It would have to be extremely malicious to get a DQ i think.  

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10 to 15 years ago the "bounce him" technique was being coached all around.  So, when it is ok for a kid to attempt to cause a concussion for 2 lousy points?

Never.  Anytime I hear "bounce him", I then tell the wrestler you better not bounce him.  If he does, I will blow the whistle.  Depending on the level of force, I will call potentially dangerous or unnecessary roughness.

The few times I was taken to table about it, I asked the coach is it worth giving a kid a concussion for 2 points?  I never had a coach disagree with me after that question.

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It should not cause a concussion if done correctly.  You are really trying to bounce him to his elbow in a circle.  Unfortunately SOME people stop studying the sport when they ref.  Here is what the other kid should be trying to do....

https://www.flowrestling.org/training?playing=6356317&q=hahn

Some things your kid can do.  

https://www.flowrestling.org/training?playing=5436049&q=hahn

https://www.flowrestling.org/training?playing=5972552&q=sucker drag

 

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On 6/29/2020 at 8:03 AM, duckdragshrugsweep said:

It should not cause a concussion if done correctly.  You are really trying to bounce him to his elbow in a circle.  Unfortunately people stop studying the sport when they ref.  Here is what the other kid should be trying to do....

https://www.flowrestling.org/training?playing=6356317&q=hahn

Some things your kid can do.  

https://www.flowrestling.org/training?playing=5436049&q=hahn

https://www.flowrestling.org/training?playing=5972552&q=sucker drag

 

That is a over generalization to say that "people stop studying the sport when they ref."  Referees see more technique from many different sources than just what happens in your practice room.  What was initially bouncing to ones own elbows in many instances turned into bouncing the opponent's head off of the mat.  As a mentor referee, I always evaluate the action as it occurs for that action that happened in the moment.  Far more often than not, the head was being bounced into the mat.

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